Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell Pt 2 * FM guilty of assault & intimidation

[Kurve]

Continued from PART 1

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father *Not Guilty
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both *Guilty
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[Wallace52]

I feel like there’s so much pressure with this case. There’s a little boy who went missing at 3 years of age and 10 years on still waiting for answers.
I’m glad the inquest is next month. It’s been way too long.
I just hope there is some answers for William and his loved ones.

One would hope so.

 

[js47]

I disagree. It's evidence-tampering in a case involving a missing presumed dead person. So it's clearly perverting the course of justice. And perjury, as these photos have been tendered as evidence in a coronial inquest. Very serious charges.

Legally does it matter if the photos supposedly were taken before the disappearance but were given after the disappearance?

 

[js47]

Just because they are rich doesn't mean they aren't into penny-pinching or buying shitty old cheap stuff for other people. Wasn't the camera a planned present for FGM? But FF and FM had the latest iphones, new fancy 4WD. But skimp on stuff for other people like suitable food or appropriate toys for the children, Macca's as a 'treat''? Crappy polyester Spiderman suit from a Bali market? Made a big deal about 'new bikes' for the kids, but there was nowhere to actually ride them in Kendall, and they were just regular cheap kids bikes like you get at Kmart. And then they sell all their unwanted crap on Gumtree instead of donating to charity.

Did the kids attend private schools?

 

[BFew]

People/families who have multiple smart/spare phones, often have older model phones for their ALT/spare/burner phones.

Just to add.

Sometimes these spare phones work perfectly fine, except that their glass (back and/or front is badly damaged), or things like speakers or microphones don't work or don't work properly any more.

 

[Wallace52]

Just because they are rich doesn't mean they aren't into penny-pinching or buying shitty old cheap stuff for other people. Wasn't the camera a planned present for FGM? But FF and FM had the latest iphones, new fancy 4WD. But skimp on stuff for other people like suitable food or appropriate toys for the children, Macca's as a 'treat''? Crappy polyester Spiderman suit from a Bali market? Made a big deal about 'new bikes' for the kids, but there was nowhere to actually ride them in Kendall, and they were just regular cheap kids bikes like you get at Kmart. And then they sell all their unwanted crap on Gumtree instead of donating to charity.

They’ve sold a lot of L’s stuff on Gumtree.

In 2020 or 2021 the foster mother also took a lot of the foster child’s personal items from her room and didn’t give them back to her, [whilst they were still living with the FM] as a punishment. That was the basis of one of the arguments documented in the FM stalk/intimidate and assault case.

Circling back to the wedding: The helicopter would have been used by a friend of theirs who is super rich and is in the aviation industry. His wife is the lady in the green blouse who spoke for the fosters in Kendall after William’s disappearance. I won’t publish their names because I can’t be bothered.

Did the kids attend private schools?

No. They attended public school.

 

[shorsky]

shorsky, are you replying to my post? It doesn't seem to fit with what you're saying.

Sorry Stormbird, I was looking at his photo ( yet again) and I just don’t see him as ‘roaring’. . his face isn’t fierce enough imo ( or should I say inconsistent with the looks my little savage lions & tigers used to give )

 

[shorsky]

JS?

Interesting that Williams sister actually said nothing at all to the police on the actual day he disappeared.

JS is FF.

We are the mere public so we really have no idea what sister may have said. We did hear that she told Wendy Hudson that William went to find daddy.
Jubelin said she was spoken with by specialist officers in dealing with children, but we’ve not heard any thing from those conversations.

 

[shorsky]

I believe William’s sister that William was playing with her on the morning that he disappeared.

I don’t think the photos provided by the FM are legit, but I do think William was there at the house. IMO

To be honest I have no idea if he was wearing a Spider-Man costume or if he had shoes on when he disappeared. Once the photos are ruled out or discredited, then everything is on the table.

But I do believe the little girl. He was there that day, at some point.

I also want to mention:

If the photos are bull*, that means that JS also knows they are bull*.

Hence that’s possibly why police had him under surveillance for at least 1000 hours.

If there has been any sort of coverup, if the photos are not genuine, then that would suggest JS is somehow involved in the cover up. I’m not suggesting he’s involved in William’s disappearance, just in helping SD to protect her rear-end. And if so: He needs to speak up and be helpful.

I do believe he was there at some stage that morning.

I struggle with the ‘fall from balcony (I’d call it a veranda) cover-up’ theory - although I could see a fall possible.
There were lots of furniture pieces on that veranda and I think I saw a ladder in one photo (not sure when it was taken tho so may not be relevant)

IF a recently turned 3 year old was locked out there, would he try to climb over ?
Or would he initially cry & throw a tantrum - such that neighbours would have heard ( or was no one home at that time) ? Or were his tears ignored ?

But then FM told us that William didn’t like heights, didn’t want to go in the tree - too high mummy - so would he climb a balcony ? …. Or was that a diversionary statement

FF got home at approx 10.30am as was planned;
FM had already done a secret drive & then run up / down the street enlisting neighbours, then gone back to the house to meet FF
FF took off searching
Was FM still searching somewhere because she & FF eventually agreed she call 000 some 26 mins later (seems neighbour was still with her because she asked neighbour the street name on 000 call)
No idea where FGM was at this stage but she said she previously walked down to road in search of FM ….
or where L was, all of which I think is quite bizarre ( lost one child so forget about the other)
How long was taken searching around the outside of house, then inside the house, before taking FGM car for a drive.
(are we sure FGM did not know she was taking the car )
How long to drive to riding school & back ?
Then to enlist the neighbours


Similarly FF told that William was cautious and never ventured away from them - he’s not a wanderer he said . (was it also said that he was shy ?)

Maybe William would go down the driveway since it was familiar territory, supposedly riding their bikes there etc.. But would he stay there if he saw a stranger or a strange car - or would he high tail it back to secure territory.
Did he go down the driveway - was it suggested he go look for ‘daddy’ to quieten his restlessness
His sister said he went to find daddy
Abduction is always a possibility.
Neighbours heard a vehicle they thought was Postie - was that just because of the time & it’s the only vehicle they normally hear - Or was it due to the sound of the vehicle
Postie apparently confirmed as having done early run - was this a different Postie due to female postie’s issues with PS ?
Why did no one hear FF leave that morning - weren’t their kids up for school ?
Did FF leave the house after those kids left for school
Surely PS saw FF car when he went off on his walk - what time did he come back & was FF car there then
* I don’t think PS is responsible in any way, but I have a feeling he may know something. I think he way know stuff about a lot of things - possibly what Jubelin picked up on, but unfortunately he rubbed PS the wrong way, noting that this was an elderly man grieving the loss of his wife.


William’s scent supposedly wasn’t found outside the boundary - Or was it ‘not outside the driveway’ - These are the details I’d like to have.
Did they find L’s scent there too ?
One would expect that since the kids were said to have ridden their bikes on driveway that morning - on that steep driveway FFS! It’s a wonder they didn’t end up across the road ! No wonder William crashed into the garden, such a naughty boy at all of 3 years 2+ months !!


It’s just difficult to envisage an abduction occurring on a dead end street in a very quiet neighbourhood, with no one hearing or seeing anything - unless preplanned.

 

[shorsky]

He did text 3 minutes before he came home ( when he was just around the corner) or was that to play a game so the children could run out to him.
FM did delete the text.
Or had he come home before and left again, FM allegedly did ask if William was with him.

FGM did say that when he arrived home he already knew William was missing ‘she must’ve rung him or something

 

[shorsky]

My apologies - I’m on weird times at moment so catching up and it’s all my replies.

I’ll stop now