Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell * The foster mother has been recommended for charges of pervert the course of justice & interfere with a corpse

[Kurve]

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[Angry Red Bull]

When I blow this shot up even further, I see a person with short dark hair wearing a white shirt, left arm outstretched standing in front of lattice. I don’t know what fosters were wearing that day and would need to recheck back garden for lattice.

I am not drunk! And I’m being serious!

I don't know what I'm more impressed about PP.. that you did that......or that you did that at 2.34 am on a Sat morning!!!

 

[NRL Fan]

When I blow this shot up even further, I see a person with short dark hair wearing a white shirt, left arm outstretched standing in front of lattice. I don’t know what fosters were wearing that day and would need to recheck back garden for lattice.

I am not drunk! And I’m being serious!

Whatever you think you saw is not possible because the reflective bits added are not real. There are an added artifact, most likely from the camera software. If you look above the eye in the close-up picture above you can see that the section above the eye is slightly blurred in a block section that extends down and there is a defined boundary around the darker reflective section in the middle.

 

[NRL Fan]

There are some very astute observations here. Thanks NRL Fan for this input. I agree with you in that WT is looking at and engaging with someone not accounted for in terms of those allegedly present at 9.37 am. William seems very confident and comfortable with whoever it was. We can only account for whoever it wasn't.

Extensive psychological and practical training with kids in this age group and beyond tells me William would have been roaring in someone's direction. Kids in a group setting such as this would rarely, if at all try to engage with thin air when there were human options all around them. It's in the very nature of 3 year olds to do the "look at me/watch me" thing. They want engagement, validation, fun and response. Why would a lively 3 year old roar to thin air?

I agree with your comment 100%. In this picture, WT is also being engaged by his FM with a camera, so WT is obviously being engaged with and distracted by the unknown person and choosing to look in their direction. If only his FM was in his view he would be looking at her or the camera.

 

[31550]

I don't support the view that because WT is not looking at the camera in the 'roar' picture there must have been another person present.
It is very difficult to get some little kids to look at a camera. Many will not do so naturally. Google will reveal many many articles with hints for amateur photographers to get them to look at the camera. This indicates it is a common problem for photographers of little kids.
The attached article (not a very good one IMO) contains several actual photographs of William. He is not looking at the camera in quite a few. It doesn't mean there was someone else he WAS looking at - he was just looking at something other than the camera at that moment:

https://www.kidspot.com.au/news/william-tyrrells-foster-mum-told-different-stories-to-police/news-story/d72e521bdc9850f984aa145a9a6fb155

 

[Lady O]

Are you sure that Tennis Player coaches or supervises children, or spends a lot of time at the tennis club?

Good question. There is very little info about him online that I have found. One photo he is depicted with junior tennis players. As there was a "usual" time for his leaving and arriving home (according to his wife), and no mention of him actually playing tennis, I formed the opinion that he was acting as an "official" at the club. Do you know otherwise?

 

[Angry Red Bull]

There are some very astute observations here. Thanks NRL Fan for this input. I agree with you in that WT is looking at and engaging with someone not accounted for in terms of those allegedly present at 9.37 am. William seems very confident and comfortable with whoever it was. We can only account for whoever it wasn't.

Extensive psychological and practical training with kids in this age group and beyond tells me William would have been roaring in someone's direction. Kids in a group setting such as this would rarely, if at all try to engage with thin air when there were human options all around them. It's in the very nature of 3 year olds to do the "look at me/watch me" thing. They want engagement, validation, fun and response. Why would a lively 3 year old roar to thin air?

Great to have that background knowledge DB. I have long thought that WT wouldn't play to thin air either. Said so a number of times The focus would be on parent, sibling or playmate.

I don't have direct work in the area but my ex had a form of Munchousen by proxy (it wasn't really an official diagnosis but just her defence mechanism to blame the children) where she would seek to excuse her mistreatment of our kids and non existent parenting skills by blaming the children for various disorders and mental health complaints so I ended up researching and becoming proficient with every mental health affliction known to child. ODD, ADHD, Asperger's, manifestation of child abuse. I rather became well accomplished just to rebut my ex in her delusions and misdirected blame. At one stage when 16 I even had to rebut anorexia for one of my daughters. FFS she eats maccas until it comes out of her ears!!! You tend to accumulate stuff in this process. My take agrees with yours entirely.

 

[fazacs1]

For what it's worth - I edited out the red eye correction or photo-shopped part that had been added to WT's eyes and came up with what the original should more closely look like. It doesn't change much IMO - He still looks like he's making eye contact with a person he knows and roaring.

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Thanks for the work there NRL fan, I have always wondered that someone’s reflection was photoshopped out on the left side of WT eyes, in the direction he is looking.

 

[fazacs1]

I don't support the view that because WT is not looking at the camera in the 'roar' picture there must have been another person present.
It is very difficult to get some little kids to look at a camera. Many will not do so naturally. Google will reveal many many articles with hints for amateur photographers to get them to look at the camera. This indicates it is a common problem for photographers of little kids.
The attached article (not a very good one IMO) contains several actual photographs of William. He is not looking at the camera in quite a few. It doesn't mean there was someone else he WAS looking at - he was just looking at something other than the camera at that moment:

https://www.kidspot.com.au/news/william-tyrrells-foster-mum-told-different-stories-to-police/news-story/d72e521bdc9850f984aa145a9a6fb155

Thanks for the additional photos, in these photos we can see WT interacting with someone other than the person who is taking the photo, but that is only my opinion

 

[fazacs1]

When I blow this shot up even further, I see a person with short dark hair wearing a white shirt, left arm outstretched standing in front of lattice. I don’t know what fosters were wearing that day and would need to recheck back garden for lattice.

I am not drunk! And I’m being serious!

Yes, I know what you mean, I see that too on the right side of WTs eye

 

[stormbird]

Good question. There is very little info about him online that I have found. One photo he is depicted with junior tennis players. As there was a "usual" time for his leaving and arriving home (according to his wife), and no mention of him actually playing tennis, I formed the opinion that he was acting as an "official" at the club. Do you know otherwise?

Thank you! I haven't seen any photos of Tennis Player or much other information either, so no, I don't know otherwise. It didn't occur to me there might have been children or young people at the courts or that Tennis Player might have been an official; I just assumed he was playing.

I'll add a link in a separate post (otherwise this post will be delayed for moderation): I found an advertisement in the Kendall Chronicle in 2011 for a "new daytime competition" on Friday mornings at the tennis club. I don't know whether it carried on into 2014, I just wondered if it might have - in which case Tennis Player might have been involved in a regular Friday morning competition or social event. The contact people in 2011 were "Wendy" (police officer?) and "Allison" (her sister-in-law?).

 

[stormbird]

Re the Kendall Tennis Club on Friday mornings: this advertisement appeared in the Kendall Chronicle three years before William went missing:

"Kendall Tennis Club
New Day-time Competition
Friday Mornings
Beginner to B Grade standard
Starts 16th Sept [2011] for 10 weeks
Phone Wendy on [...] or Allison on [...]
Numbers are limited so get in quick!
Great way to socialise and get some exercise"

- from page 9, Kendall Chronicle via the Trove archive, 9 September 2011, volume 8, issue 17
Trove - Archived webpage

Obviously the ad says the competition was set to last for only 10 weeks, so things might have changed by 2014. I just wondered if Friday morning tennis, competition or not, was popular enough that it carried on over the years.

 

[Lady O]

Thank you! I haven't seen any photos of Tennis Player or much other information either, so no, I don't know otherwise. It didn't occur to me there might have been children or young people at the courts or that Tennis Player might have been an official; I just assumed he was playing.

I'll add a link in a separate post (otherwise this post will be delayed for moderation): I found an advertisement in the Kendall Chronicle in 2011 for a "new daytime competition" on Friday mornings at the tennis club. I don't know whether it carried on into 2014, I just wondered if it might have - in which case Tennis Player might have been involved in a regular Friday morning competition or social event. The contact people in 2011 were "Wendy" (police officer?) and "Allison" (her sister-in-law?).

I found this on the club's website:

"The club has over 400 members annually and has one of the largest junior program (100 juniors across 5 levels) on the North Coast which is played on Fridays. There are 3 qualified coaches.

[snip]

The club is solely run by volunteers and won Tennis NSW Country Club of the year 2004 and Tennis Australia Most Outstanding Community Tennis Club 2010.

The club has it own ballsquad with some members part of the NSW Ballsquad which services the ATP CUP.. In the past we have had junior members in the Australian Ballsquad and Davis Cup ballsquads. Our club is also the Northern regional training centre for ballkids in the NSW Ballsquad.

We also have participate in Hot Shots demonstration on centre court at Sydney International each year.

The club finished first two years running (2014 & 2015) in Tennis Australia’s AOBlitz competition with Rafa Nadal & Novak Djokovic playing for the town during the Australian Open. "

So I'm thinking they need lots of volunteers on Fridays to help.

 

[fazacs1]

Daily Mail says that FGM's walk-through was filmed six days after William went missing:

"Speaking with police on the afternoon of [Thursday] September 18, 2014, the foster grandma leads Senior Constable Vanessa Partridge from Port Macquarie Police inside the house from which William had vanished just six days before."

- Daily Mail Australia, 9 May 2022

Inside house where William Tyrrell spent his final hours

Never before seen images of the inside of the house house where William Tyrrell spent his last hours and and the bedroom he slept in before vanishing without a trace have emerged.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Thanks for that stormbird, interesting collage of photos in the snapshot above, FGM on deck, depicts washing on the line where we observe one sheet hanging (looks like faint stripes on sheet) and if you continue watching walkthrough, you can see more clearly when FGM is on the grass pointing back to the deck) then if you look at the top bedsheet in the bedroom photo, they appear to match. FGM, does comment in the walkthrough about how messy the room is and also that she didn‘t know who slept where. Which IMO maybe the reason FM called Bill Spedding that morning asking when he was going to fix the washing machine. Another thing I find a bit out of sorts in the bedroom pic, is the lack of bedspread or doona in the image, haha, I know I sound crazy, but my grandmother would never have just blankets on a bed. I’m just off to track down the date of FF walkthrough, as there is different washing on the line (clothes).

 

[Awakening]

When I enlarge the photo of William U see tonight's lotto numbers

 

[BFew]

When I enlarge the photo of William U see tonight's lotto numbers

Let me know what numbers you see and we can split the prize money

 

[fazacs1]

When I enlarge the photo of William U see tonight's lotto numbers

Haha , I see your point, but after running my own photographic studio, I had to occasionally use photoshop, for red eye reduction and photoshop for faces, hence my interest

 

[Awakening]

Let me know what numbers you see and we can split the prize money

Just zoom in and see for yourself!

 

[Awakening]

Pareidolia - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Angry Red Bull]

If the Ronald Chapman sighting is correct and the FF is the person WT is growing at in the image, then the only explanation is that WT was sold or given away. The deletion of txt messages and the cancelling of the mobile SIM would support that theory, but we are then left wondering about a motive for such an action. Perhaps the FM was not able to manage WT and wanted to give him back, but knew that would mean surrendering the FD, as they would be kept together as brother and sister.

Let's finesse this further

There is evidence that WT had uncontrollable anger storms and likewise their parenting skills were poor. It was an untenable situation and couldn't be allowed to continue. They give the child up and FACS take both. They perhaps never get another chance at fostering or adopting. Clearly they are unable to have their own children so the whole situation is distressing. If they decide to give child away a number of things would be needed;

• a remote location so they won't be seen ✓
• a unusual non busy time (Friday) ✓
• Friday was a late change ✓
• a willing person to take (eg extended family of BIo) ✓
• a story that hides the situation eg abduction ✓
• FF meets Bio reps on Betar Cr Rd for final planning in am (his missing time) ✓
• FF has an alibi with appointments ✓
• FM says he was only gone for seconds as her alibi ✓
• 2 cars (a familiar female face ) and a following car ✓
• a handover takes place in one car whilst second car waits on Betar Cr Rd. ✓
• R Chapman sees both driving crazy and with WT ✓
• the 'story' told about fake cars and people designed to deceive ✓
• Jubelin never gave any focus to Bio family after first interviews and inspections ✓

In advance they will need to have developed a plan for things like home schooling, staying out of sight, Medicare medical services. Perhaps regional rural

POSSIBLE

The R Chapman sighting is disturbing. It wasn't locals. It was proximate to abduction. It was credible sighting IMO. They drove crazy. Was it possibly just an unrelated incident happening at the same time? What?....in a regional centre by non locals carrying a WT lookalike in Spiderman outfit? I have looked at the whole false memory possibility. In doing that research it said and I quote:

"Where a memory occurs that involves a strongly emotional reaction it becomes innoculated to being false"

The emotional reaction of one car nearly running off the road followed by another car that could have killed someone on wrong side of the road invoked a strong emotional reaction in RC where he swore under his breath. It was accordingly unable to be a false memory

 

[NRL Fan]

I don't support the view that because WT is not looking at the camera in the 'roar' picture there must have been another person present.
It is very difficult to get some little kids to look at a camera. Many will not do so naturally. Google will reveal many many articles with hints for amateur photographers to get them to look at the camera. This indicates it is a common problem for photographers of little kids.
The attached article (not a very good one IMO) contains several actual photographs of William. He is not looking at the camera in quite a few. It doesn't mean there was someone else he WAS looking at - he was just looking at something other than the camera at that moment:

https://www.kidspot.com.au/news/william-tyrrells-foster-mum-told-different-stories-to-police/news-story/d72e521bdc9850f984aa145a9a6fb155

The roar picture shows WT gesturing with a roar rather than just looking, which suggests it's towards a person - IMO

 

[shorsky]

Here is another picture, taken later that shows what's in the direction WT is looking and it's another chair.
WT is sitting in front of the plastic table looking up at the face of someone in that chair (occupied by the policewoman in this pic) and it's not his FM, FGM or sister. IMO - It can only be the FF, but unfortunately it's not proof without the FF in the pic.

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Sorry to display my seeming ‘denseness’ & I admit I know nothing about photography, but I don’t understand why everyone says William is not looking at who ever is taking the photo. Hope you can help me out please.

having said that, I do think it’s interesting that there were 5 photos taken that that morning of William, on his own.
maybe there were also numerous photos taken of L & also perhaps of them together - it’s not been said & I guess there’s no reason for it to be ( other than to satisfy my curiosity). personally, I’d have been taking of both. and I guess I do notice people tend to take multiple rapid snaps on their phones these days, to see what it good to keep & what not.

is that how it works with a camera too ?

 

[shorsky]

Thanks for that stormbird, interesting collage of photos in the snapshot above, FGM on deck, depicts washing on the line where we observe one sheet hanging (looks like faint stripes on sheet) and if you continue watching walkthrough, you can see more clearly when FGM is on the grass pointing back to the deck) then if you look at the top bedsheet in the bedroom photo, they appear to match. FGM, does comment in the walkthrough about how messy the room is and also that she didn‘t know who slept where. Which IMO maybe the reason FM called Bill Spedding that morning asking when he was going to fix the washing machine. Another thing I find a bit out of sorts in the bedroom pic, is the lack of bedspread or doona in the image, haha, I know I sound crazy, but my grandmother would never have just blankets on a bed. I’m just off to track down the date of FF walkthrough, as there is different washing on the line (clothes).

FGM‘s walkthru was 6 days after William’s disappearance I think.

Maybe she just came back to the house as I understand she was taken to a motel with the other daughter initially.

Maybe it was all to stressful for her to be at her home while the search was going on, or maybe they wanted her out of the way.

 

[NRL Fan]

Let's finesse this further

There is evidence that WT had uncontrollable anger storms and likewise their parenting skills were poor. It was an untenable situation and couldn't be allowed to continue. They give the child up and FACS take both. They perhaps never get another chance at fostering or adopting. Clearly they are unable to have their own children so the whole situation is distressing. If they decide to give child away a number of things would be needed;

• a remote location so they won't be seen ✓
• a unusual non busy time (Friday) ✓
• Friday was a late change ✓
• a willing person to take (eg extended family of BIo) ✓
• a story that hides the situation eg abduction ✓
• FF meets Bio reps on Betar Cr Rd for final planning in am (his missing time) ✓
• FF has an alibi with appointments ✓
• FM says he was only gone for seconds as her alibi ✓
• 2 cars (a familiar female face ) and a following car ✓
• a handover takes place in one car whilst second car waits on Betar Cr Rd. ✓
• R Chapman sees both driving crazy and with WT ✓
• the 'story' told about fake cars and people designed to deceive ✓
• Jubelin never gave any focus to Bio family after first interviews and inspections ✓

In advance they will need to have developed a plan for things like home schooling, staying out of sight, Medicare medical services. Perhaps regional rural

POSSIBLE

The R Chapman sighting is disturbing. It wasn't locals. It was proximate to abduction. It was credible sighting IMO. They drove crazy. Was it possibly just an unrelated incident happening at the same time? What?....in a regional centre by non locals carrying a WT lookalike in Spiderman outfit? I have looked at the whole false memory possibility. In doing that research it said and I quote:

"Where a memory occurs that involves a strongly emotional reaction it becomes innoculated to being false"

The emotional reaction of one car nearly running off the road followed by another car that could have killed someone on wrong side of the road invoked a strong emotional reaction in RC where he swore under his breath. It was accordingly unable to be a false memory

If this theory is correct, It's more likely that the FM drove her FGM's vehicle from the house with WT to the area near the riding school / new search area for the drop off, which is quite deserted and that would avoid those cars being spotted by locals near her GMs house. She mentioned this trip later to police as an excuse for looking for WT, just in case anyone had noticed. But the counter evidence to this is the speeding - why would the 3rd parties speed away if this was planned and why would WT be in his Spiderman suit, as noted by RC ?. You would expect he would have been changed to avoid detection as the missing boy. Perhaps he was left in those clothes because he refused to change or to keep him happy, but that would be a huge risk. Speeding away might have been due to the emotional state of the 3rd parties. Regarding the FF - He would have gone to the Chemist so he could give himself an alibi on CCTV and stayed away until after the drop off deliberately. The most likely exit for WT would be the airfield down the road and he could have been in the air at the time of the 000 call. If this is really what happened it leaves open the possibility that WT is still alive, but most likely out of this country. One piece of this puzzle is - why did the FF change his ABN address details the day before ?. Perhaps there was some communication from the 3rd parties to the old address and he wanted to make sure all loose ends were closed off as much as possible.

 

[DropBearess]

FGM‘s walkthru was 6 days after William’s disappearance I think.

Maybe she just came back to the house as I understand she was taken to a motel with the other daughter initially.

Maybe it was all to stressful for her to be at her home while the search was going on, or maybe they wanted her out of the way.

Hi shorsky. Please can you give us more information or links regarding the motel? Many of us have been wondering where FGM went on the night, how she got there and who she was with? I think this info is really important.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

If this theory is correct, It's more likely that the FM drove her FGM's vehicle from the house with WT to the area near the riding school / new search area for the drop off, which is quite deserted and that would avoid those cars being spotted by locals near her GMs house. She mentioned this trip later to police as an excuse for looking for WT, just in case anyone had noticed. But the counter evidence to this is the speeding - why would the 3rd parties speed away if this was planned and why would WT be in his Spiderman suit, as noted by RC ?. You would expect he would have been changed to avoid detection as the missing boy. Perhaps he was left in those clothes because he refused to change or to keep him happy, but that would be a huge risk. Speeding away might have been due to the emotional state of the 3rd parties. Regarding the FF - He would have gone to the Chemist so he could give himself an alibi on CCTV and stayed away until after the drop off deliberately. The most likely exit for WT would be the airfield down the road and he could have been in the air at the time of the 000 call. If this is really what happened it leaves open the possibility that WT is still alive, but most likely out of this country. One piece of this puzzle is - why did the FF change his ABN address details the day before ?. Perhaps there was some communication from the 3rd parties to the old address and he wanted to make sure all loose ends were closed off as much as possible.

Even though it would be planned it is still an abduction and a crime. The emotional state would definitely kick in as would the FP saying when they would report him.missing. so I think they would speed. That is likewise an interesting observation too. It was like 30 min from time missing to 000 call. Thats extraordinarily quick for a missing child call which usually exceed an 1hr. But it's quick because you want to hide your involvement in an abduction perhaps