Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell * The foster mother has been recommended for charges of pervert the course of justice & interfere with a corpse

[Kurve]

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[CodyRose]

And this

William Tyrrell’s foster parents appear in court
'The foster parents of William Tyrrell have pleaded not guilty to a charge of assaulting a child who is not the missing toddler and will argue they should be dealt with under the Mental Health Act.

Magistrate Robyn Danes has banned the reporting of any evidence in the case after saying there may be innuendo that it was connected to three-year-old William’s disappearance.

“Or, that is, as child abusers they probably did it,” the magistrate said during a fiery hearing at Hornsby Local Court on Friday.

She said the non-publication orders over the evidence were necessary for the safety of the couple because she believed they were at “real risk of harm” and she said she could not understand the interest in the case.'
...
'“What is not clear is why this matter is of such interest,” she said.

She said there had been relentless reporting of William’s disappearance even when there was nothing to report.'

“The risk that (the foster parents) are seen as somehow connected to the disappearance of William Tyrrell based on innuendo or misplaced information is significant,” she said.

The Daily Telegraph and other media organisations had argued against the suppression of evidence in the interest of open justice but the foster parents successfully sought the non-publication orders.
...
Solicitor Sharon Ramsden, appearing for the woman, said they would be making an application under section 14 of the Mental Health Act which allows a person who is charged with a criminal offence and suffers from a mental health impairment or cognitive impairment to avoid a finding of guilt and a criminal record.

Counsel for the father foreshadowed making a similar application.

Police are preparing to reinterview the alleged child victim, the court was told.

The magistrate said the proceedings had become “antagonistic”, she had been sent volumes of material which she couldn’t read and she was making the same non-publication orders she had proposed to make on November 23 when the case first came before her.

“I feel like, again I will be quite frank, that I’m being dictated to by all the representatives.” she said.

'The case was adjourned to February 22'

Perhaps time to close the public purse

 

[metic]

#breaking

Both foster parents have pleaded NOT GUILTY to the common assault of a child.

What is this ? Whats this box with "verdict jordan" ?
Ive tried to click on it , strangely i cannot figure out what it means...

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[Awakening]

I don't get what is happening with this case at all.

And the more I read about it, the less I know. Instead of getting clearer it gets blurrier.

At the beginning Mick Fuller said there was a brand new witness, they were acting on specific information, they were under instructions from the coroner, it wasn't frivolous information etc etc.

NSW police have gone hard on POIs before and been left with egg on their face. And we know of one former POI who sued.

The Fosters have a reputation of using lawyers to the maximum, so you'd think police would be very careful.

Is Fuller full of it or is this all part of a covert strategy?

 

[Collie_wobbles]

This whole ordeal from William to the assault charges on FP'S, is just becoming ridiculous. Where is open justice?? Why do these people need to be protected so much?? If they are playing the mental card, then how were they deemed to still care for William's sister for so long. Sorry but this appears to be a whole cover up and full of corruption. When is this sh*t going to stop in Australia

 

[kat1234]

This whole ordeal from William to the assault charges on FP'S, is just becoming ridiculous. Where is open justice?? Why do these people need to be protected so much?? If they are playing the mental card, then how were they deemed to still care for William's sister for so long. Sorry but this appears to be a whole cover up and full of corruption. When is this sh*t going to stop in Australia

And this

William Tyrrell’s foster parents appear in court
'The foster parents of William Tyrrell have pleaded not guilty to a charge of assaulting a child who is not the missing toddler and will argue they should be dealt with under the Mental Health Act.

Magistrate Robyn Danes has banned the reporting of any evidence in the case after saying there may be innuendo that it was connected to three-year-old William’s disappearance.

“Or, that is, as child abusers they probably did it,” the magistrate said during a fiery hearing at Hornsby Local Court on Friday.

She said the non-publication orders over the evidence were necessary for the safety of the couple because she believed they were at “real risk of harm” and she said she could not understand the interest in the case.'
...
'“What is not clear is why this matter is of such interest,” she said.

She said there had been relentless reporting of William’s disappearance even when there was nothing to report.'

“The risk that (the foster parents) are seen as somehow connected to the disappearance of William Tyrrell based on innuendo or misplaced information is significant,” she said.

The Daily Telegraph and other media organisations had argued against the suppression of evidence in the interest of open justice but the foster parents successfully sought the non-publication orders.
...
Solicitor Sharon Ramsden, appearing for the woman, said they would be making an application under section 14 of the Mental Health Act which allows a person who is charged with a criminal offence and suffers from a mental health impairment or cognitive impairment to avoid a finding of guilt and a criminal record.

Counsel for the father foreshadowed making a similar application.

Police are preparing to reinterview the alleged child victim, the court was told.

The magistrate said the proceedings had become “antagonistic”, she had been sent volumes of material which she couldn’t read and she was making the same non-publication orders she had proposed to make on November 23 when the case first came before her.

“I feel like, again I will be quite frank, that I’m being dictated to by all the representatives.” she said.

'The case was adjourned to February 22'

Mentally ill to the point where they can’t be held criminally responsible

Well enough to care for LT for 7 years after William goes missing

Which one is it?

Are y’all ill or not?

Can we believe any of their witness statements?

Where is William? And what the heck is going on?

 

[RexM]

Mentally ill to the point where they can’t be held criminally responsible

Well enough to care for LT for 7 years after William goes missing

Which one is it?

Are y’all ill or not?

Can we believe any of their witness statements?

Where is William? And what the heck is going on?

It would be mental health at the time the offence occurred.

 

[Taylor Moss]

 

[Lady O]

Mental stress caused by the most recent search perhaps?

 

[Collie_wobbles]

Mental stress caused by the most recent search perhaps?

The alleged assault occurred prior to the current search starting

 

[Lady O]

The alleged assault occurred prior to the current search starting

Do we know when it was alleged to have occurred?

 

[Collie_wobbles]

Do we know when it was alleged to have occurred?

From my understanding about 2wks prior to the current search that took place

 

[Lady O]

From my understanding about 2wks prior to the current search that took place

Does that coincide with the comment about fake news being spread (presumably when she was informed about the current line of inquiry)?

 

[Taylor Moss]

Does that coincide with the comment about fake news being spread (presumably when she was informed about the current line of inquiry)?

Could be an unreliable witness account which has sparked all of this recent activity on the case

 

[kat1234]

Does that coincide with the comment about fake news being spread (presumably when she was informed about the current line of inquiry)?

I was actually wondering this today. If this was the trigger for the violence (alleged.)

Maybe the recent search for WT remains has caused the FPs to become unhinged.

I wonder why? They should be pleased the police are looking for him?

Surely they want him found?

I wonder what the proposed diagnosis will be under the mental health act?

 

[kat1234]

Its not about ‘what mental illness just crops up at the time that you allegedly commit common assault on a foster child in your care. It is ‘was the assault the result of the temporary mental incapacity of the offender.

for e.g…. If someone called me and told me why wife had died in an accident, and I immediately threw my phone and fell to the ground. If the phone I threw hit someone in the head, I could used the defence of diminished responsibility due to mental incapacity.

Thank you. I’m still new to the case and crime in general and criminal law are areas very new to me.

 

[Pies1990]

These convoluted legal processes are so frustrating to follow. I understand from a legal perspective the 2 cases are separate, but 100% if you were investigating where William Tyrrell is you’d be very interested to know if the FC’s assaulted (physically or verbally) the other child, which could be related to WT? It’s an investigation of character and behaviour
It just seems IMO $$ talks and the suppression of most things has been allowed to keep them out of trouble


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[Taylor Moss]

I was actually wondering this today. If this was the trigger for the violence (alleged.)

Maybe the recent search for WT remains has caused the FPs to become unhinged.

I wonder why? They should be pleased the police are looking for him?

Surely they want him found?

I wonder what the proposed diagnosis will be under the mental health act?

Or: there was no violence, the search started after the reported violence and knowing that they are totally innocent are suffering mental health issues as a result of the charge?

 

[Kurve]

Or: there was no violence, the search started after the reported violence and knowing that they are totally innocent are suffering mental health issues as a result of the charge?

Something has clearly happened, I don't think homicide has raised charges and taken out AVO's on nothing with no evidence.

 

[kat1234]

These convoluted legal processes are so frustrating to follow. I understand from a legal perspective the 2 cases are separate, but 100% if you were investigating where William Tyrrell is you’d be very interested to know if the FC’s assaulted (physically or verbally) the other child, which could be related to WT? It’s an investigation of character and behaviour
It just seems IMO $$ talks and the suppression of most things has been allowed to keep them out of trouble


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I had this idea that it was more than money and maybe to do with FM or FD jobs that suppression has been such a common feature of anything to do with this couple.

I was wondering if maybe one or both of them work for a government organisation that needs them to stay invisible? Like maybe AS*S or AS*O?

They would for sure want their employees out of the public eye and it explains FM complete lack of social media presence. She’s a ghost.

 

[Taylor Moss]

Something has clearly happened, I don't think homicide has raised charges and taken out AVO's on nothing with no evidence.

No. Something has been alleged to have happened and it was not Homicide detectives who charged them.

 

[Kurve]

No. Something has been alleged to have happened and it was not Homicide detectives who charged them.

There was bruising, this is evidence? Okay, who charged them? I assumed it was Homicide given they took out the AVO.

 

[Taylor Moss]

There was bruising, this is evidence? Okay, who charged them? I assumed it was Homicide given they took out the AVO.

All I read was detectives. From numerous articles (both sides of the political spectrum) and the right side of that spectrum would use “Homicide Detectives” as click bait.

Honest truth is I don’t categorically know the answer. But I haven’t seen it reported as Homicide.

Bruising is not always the fault of a parent guardian.

It can easily be blamed on them, but not always the case.

I’d like to ask those more familiar with the case; are the Tyrell children their first ever foster’s?

If not; have any former foster children in their care spoken up or spoken out against them?

 

[kat1234]

There was bruising, this is evidence? Okay, who charged them? I assumed it was Homicide given they took out the AVO.

I believe taskforce Rosann charged them?

 

[Pies1990]

I had this idea that it was more than money and maybe to do with FM or FD jobs that suppression has been such a common feature of anything to do with this couple.

I was wondering if maybe one or both of them work for a government organisation that needs them to stay invisible? Like maybe AS*S or AS*O?

They would for sure want their employees out of the public eye and it explains FM complete lack of social media presence. She’s a ghost.

I don’t think any of them were with govt agencies, I did read somewhere that both of them were involved in the same industry but the FM became a stay at home mum since caring for WT.
FB searches do reveal names and you can find out a bit about the FF but not much of the FM.
I did read the FM was/is a frequent poster on a particular site (I hope I can write this as a previous post was edited as I posted the site) with other well known people in the investigation posting also. Came across as a close knit group


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[kat1234]

All I read was detectives. From numerous articles (both sides of the political spectrum) and the right side of that spectrum would use “Homicide Detectives” as click bait.

Honest truth is I don’t categorically know the answer. But I haven’t seen it reported as Homicide.

Bruising is not always the fault of a parent guardian.

It can easily be blamed on them, but not always the case.

I’d like to ask those more familiar with the case; are the Tyrell children their first ever foster’s?

If not; have any former foster children in their care spoken up or spoken out against them?

They had one baby and then a set of babies.

So three.

They had them for maybe one or two nights. It was a trial to see if they’d do ok.

Before given ok to foster LT. Then William came along.

I’ll check the book and get back with more clarity on this.

I don’t think the babies raised any concerns. Given that they were babies.

Edit:

Here’s the actual info from the book I’m reading -

Searching for Spiderman
The Disappearance of Three-year-old William Tyrrell by Ally Chumley

P. 13

In 2011, while Karley Tyrrell was giving birth to William, FM and FD were preparing to become foster carers for the first time. They’d been taking weekend classes. FACS gave them


P. 14

approval and two short assignments: an infant for a night and a pair of sibling babies on a two-night sleepover. Early in 2012, their initiation was complete. FM and FD received Lindsay and, five weeks later, they would receive William Tyrrell.