Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell * The foster mother has been recommended for charges of pervert the course of justice & interfere with a corpse

[Kurve]

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[Taylor Moss]

They had one baby and then a set of baby’s.

So three.

They had them for maybe one or two nights. It was a trial to see if they’d do ok.

Before given ok to foster LT. Then William came along.

I’ll check the book and get back with more clarity on this.

I don’t think the babies raised any concerns. Given that they were babies.

Kinda hard for babies to give an account on anything!! Thanks for the above.

 

[RexM]

I had this idea that it was more than money and maybe to do with FM or FD jobs that suppression has been such a common feature of anything to do with this couple.

I was wondering if maybe one or both of them work for a government organisation that needs them to stay invisible? Like maybe AS*S or AS*O?

They would for sure want their employees out of the public eye and it explains FM complete lack of social media presence. She’s a ghost.

Both ASIS and ASIO have legal capacity to cease any identifiable images or video of employees under the National Security Information (Criminal and Civil Proceedings) Act 2004.

The fact that the FPs new house alone was on the news tells me they didn’t work for either organisation.

 

[Kurve]

I did read the FM was/is a frequent poster on a particular site (I hope I can write this as a previous post was edited as I posted the site) with other well known people in the investigation posting also. Came across as a close knit group

In my experience over time, I doubt that very much. Witnesses in major crimes are also specifically advised not to engage about the case over social media.

That doesn't mean though, that the fosters don't have supporters.

 

[Collie_wobbles]

All I read was detectives. From numerous articles (both sides of the political spectrum) and the right side of that spectrum would use “Homicide Detectives” as click bait.

Honest truth is I don’t categorically know the answer. But I haven’t seen it reported as Homicide.

Bruising is not always the fault of a parent guardian.

It can easily be blamed on them, but not always the case.

I’d like to ask those more familiar with the case; are the Tyrell children their first ever foster’s?

If not; have any former foster children in their care spoken up or spoken out against them?

Detective Senior Constable Sean Ogilvy applied for the AVO. Sean Ogilvy is from the Homicide squad.

William Tyrrell: Cloud could linger over foster parents for YEARS

Magistrate Robyn Denes questioned whether there was any public interest in the case other than the 'connection between other matters' and 'click bait'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Taylor Moss]

Detective Senior Constable Sean Ogilvy applied for the AVO. Sean Ogilvy is from the Homicide squad.

William Tyrrell: Cloud could linger over foster parents for YEARS

Magistrate Robyn Denes questioned whether there was any public interest in the case other than the 'connection between other matters' and 'click bait'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Ahhhh cheers for that.

 

[kat1234]

Detective Senior Constable Sean Ogilvy applied for the AVO. Sean Ogilvy is from the Homicide squad.

William Tyrrell: Cloud could linger over foster parents for YEARS

Magistrate Robyn Denes questioned whether there was any public interest in the case other than the 'connection between other matters' and 'click bait'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Are we all clear on this now?

 

[Taylor Moss]

Are we all clear on this now?

Correct

 

[Awakening]

I don’t think any of them were with govt agencies, I did read somewhere that both of them were involved in the same industry but the FM became a stay at home mum since caring for WT.
FB searches do reveal names and you can find out a bit about the FF but not much of the FM.
I did read the FM was/is a frequent poster on a particular site (I hope I can write this as a previous post was edited as I posted the site) with other well known people in the investigation posting also. Came across as a close knit group


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I'm not sure what forum you are referring to, but there was a user who regularly posted veiled threats of legal action and that led to another forum saying this user was the FFC or closely connected to the fosters.

Before that accusation happened I was curious about the user and her threats too so started messaging her and she's not the FFC. I think most people will be disappointed to learn who she is.

Anyway people have lost their minds over this case and this is the only place a normal discussion can take place without conspiracies.

On other forums there are 2 distinct camps: "100% FFC did it or 100% she did not"

If you are like me and viewing her with some suspicion seeing she was named as a POI (you are anti William and victim blaming) but if you are also (like me) keeping an open mind as she hasn't been charged yet and there's little hard evidence, then you are obviously connected to the FFC, a crony, part of a conspiracy, deluded.

I'd be amused by it all if it wasn't for the fact there's a 3 year old missing presumed dead which needless to say is an absolute tragedy. Poor kid.

 

[DropBearess]

All I read was detectives. From numerous articles (both sides of the political spectrum) and the right side of that spectrum would use “Homicide Detectives” as click bait.

Honest truth is I don’t categorically know the answer. But I haven’t seen it reported as Homicide.

Bruising is not always the fault of a parent guardian.

It can easily be blamed on them, but not always the case.

I’d like to ask those more familiar with the case; are the Tyrell children their first ever foster’s?

If not; have any former foster children in their care spoken up or spoken out against them?

Very good point.

 

[kat1234]

The alleged assault occurred prior to the current search starting

Section 4 of the Act explains that you have a 'mental health impairment' if:

You have a temporary or ongoing disturbance of thought, mood, volition, perception or memory.
Your disturbance is significant for clinical diagnostic purposes, and
Your disturbance impairs your emotional wellbeing, judgment or behaviour.
Mental health impairment includes, but is not limited to:

Anxiety disorder,
Affective disorder, including clinical depression and bipolar disorder,
Psychotic disorder, and
Substance induced mental disorder that is not temporary.


Mental health impairment does not include:

The temporary effect of ingesting a substance, or
A substance use disorder.

Edit:
Doesn’t seem to include narcissistic personality disorder.

 

[Pies1990]

I'm not sure what forum you are referring to, but there was a user who regularly posted veiled threats of legal action and that led to another forum saying this user was the FFC or closely connected to the fosters.

Before that accusation happened I was curious about the user and her threats too so started messaging her and she's not the FFC. I think most people will be disappointed to learn who she is.

Anyway people have lost their minds over this case and this is the only place a normal discussion can take place without conspiracies.

On other forums there are 2 distinct camps: "100% FFC did it or 100% she did not"

If you are like me and viewing her with some suspicion seeing she was named as a POI (you are anti William and victim blaming) but if you are also (like me) keeping an open mind as she hasn't been charged yet and there's little hard evidence, then you are obviously connected to the FFC, a crony, part of a conspiracy, deluded.

I'd be amused by it all if it wasn't for the fact there's a 3 year old missing presumed dead which needless to say is an absolute tragedy. Poor kid.

It does sound like the same forum. I’ve had a look tonight and there’s some new users taking the Mickey out of “team foster carers” and ex cop.
Whoever the users are in team FC they are very closely aligned and have vast knowledge of the case and do threaten legal action if unsubstantiated info is put up.
I’ve kept an open mind but I keep coming back to the simplest reason is probably the most likely. Given the dead end street, tight timeline, cars not seen by other people, and the age of supposed POI’s listed in the past, IMO this doesn’t involve someone taking him. Someone’s playing funny buggers and keeping secrets


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[kat1234]

It does sound like the same forum. I’ve had a look tonight and there’s some new users taking the Mickey out of “team foster carers” and ex cop.
Whoever the users are in team FC they are very closely aligned and have vast knowledge of the case and do threaten legal action if unsubstantiated info is put up.
I’ve kept an open mind but I keep coming back to the simplest reason is probably the most likely. Given the dead end street, tight timeline, cars not seen by other people, and the age of supposed POI’s listed in the past, IMO this doesn’t involve someone taking him. Someone’s playing funny buggers and keeping secrets


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Very good point.

I think he climbed on the chair and went over the veranda. Such a sad situation.

 

[Pies1990]

I think he climbed on the chair and went over the veranda. Such a sad situation.

It’s disappointing they’ve only just tried out this theory in detail but 7 years later. Wonder if they would’ve found more potential evidence had it been done straight away.
They were told he was taken and then later there were cars etc but investigators by their nature investigate every possible theory just to rule things out


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[CodyRose]

I had this idea that it was more than money and maybe to do with FM or FD jobs that suppression has been such a common feature of anything to do with this couple.

I was wondering if maybe one or both of them work for a government organisation that needs them to stay invisible? Like maybe AS*S or AS*O?

They would for sure want their employees out of the public eye and it explains FM complete lack of social media presence. She’s a ghost.

I think more just protection available (a) foster laws and (b) mental health act due to long term in going stress

 

[Raisedeyebrow]

I’m again left wondering if the biological parents have been left out of proceedings. No mention of them being on video conference of court case yesterday involving alleged assault of their daughter.

 

[RexM]

I think he climbed on the chair and went over the veranda. Such a sad situation.

Do you think that it is high enough to cause death though?

I just couldn’t imagine the FPs being like ‘WT has fallen over the balcony… oh well, we better wait hours until he succumbs to his injury’s and bury him down the road.’

 

[RexM]

I’m again left wondering if the biological parents have been left out of proceedings. No mention of them being on video conference of court case yesterday involving alleged assault of their daughter.

Regarding the biological parents it would be all processes of law.. If they are included or not in proceedings isn’t reflective of anyone’s personal intentions or motivations. We have a legal system NOT a justice system. Although there have been mistakes and breaches in law within courtrooms of course, I imagine they will be sticking to the book on this case!

 

[insanity]

I'd love to checkout this other forum. Would anyone like to PM me? Please and thank you.

I just hope there is some method in this madness and William finally gets the justice he truly deserves.

 

[jason_recliner]

I had this idea that it was more than money and maybe to do with FM or FD jobs that suppression has been such a common feature of anything to do with this couple.

I was wondering if maybe one or both of them work for a government organisation that needs them to stay invisible? Like maybe AS*S or AS*O?

They would for sure want their employees out of the public eye and it explains FM complete lack of social media presence. She’s a ghost.

Not sure if serious or...

 

[kat1234]

Do you think that it is high enough to cause death though?

I just couldn’t imagine the FPs being like ‘WT has fallen over the balcony… oh well, we better wait hours until he succumbs to his injury’s and bury him down the road.’

It’s pretty high and there are a lot of access points to the balcony from inside the house. The glass sliding doors open out to the balcony from multiple rooms.

 

[jason_recliner]

I’m again left wondering if the biological parents have been left out of proceedings. No mention of them being on video conference of court case yesterday involving alleged assault of their daughter.

The biological parents ************ don't deserve the privilege of having children.

 

[Pies1990]

The biological parents *********** don't deserve the privilege of having children.

The bio mum still has I think 2-3 kids in her care? Obviously had a tough period when WT was born with the bio father. But without knowing them at all, still having her other kids seems to indicate she’s doing ok.
The father apparently lost his way after WT disappeared.
On a side note there was a supervised visit the bio’s noticed bruising on WT’s face. The FFC did report it, but in light of what’s happened now how do we know he just hit his head on the coffee table? The FC’s come across as power trippers in their behaviour and now an assault charge adds to this


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[RexM]

The biological parents ********** don't deserve the privilege of having children.

Why are they *****?

Any evidence to back up this claim?

Please explain why they don’t have the privilege of having children so you don’t look like a fool.

 

[Taylor Moss]

Why are they ***** ?

Any evidence to back up this claim?

Please explain why they don’t have the privilege of having children so you don’t look like a fool.

Good people & good parents don’t have their kids taken off them and placed in to foster care.
They also aren’t in and out of gaol with regular monotony.
Now it doesn’t make them “*****” but they’re certainly not model citizens.

 

[RexM]

Good people & good parents don’t have their kids taken off them and placed in to foster care.
They also aren’t in and out of gaol with regular monotony.
Now it doesn’t make them “*****” but they’re certainly not model citizens.

Both this comment and the comment of the ****** ***** before are extremely generalised and sound really trashy..

Good parents do go to gaol and good parents do get their children removed.

To say ‘good parents don’t get their children removed’ is as incorrect as saying ‘bad parents get their children removed’, and obviously that isn’t the case.. their are plenty of bad parents out there with kids.
Common sense must prevail.