Current Disappearance of 3yo William Tyrrell * The foster mother has been recommended for charges of pervert the course of justice & interfere with a corpse

[Kurve]

Criminal charges the former foster parents currently face as at 15 April 2022 include:

• Apprehended Violence Orders on both (AVOs)
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster mother *Not Guilty
• Lying to the NSW Crime Commission on former foster father *Not Guilty
• 2 x charges of assault against a child on former foster mother *Guilty
• 1 x charge of assault against a child on former foster father
• Stalking &/or Intimidation on both
• Dummy bidding real estate fraud *Guilty

TIMELINE

Where's William Tyrrell? - The Ch 10 podcast (under Coroner's subpoena)

Operation Arkstone

 

[BFew]

Did anyone see the statement on TV that she made today?

I just watched this.
Was this all of it?

 

[BFew]

Was her voice disguised or was she just teary? I don't recall her sounding like this in any of the other interviews they have done. I thought her voice sounded like a small child's.

Very upset.
Not at all like a small child's IMO.

 

[Infofinder]

Did anyone see the statement on TV that she made today? Was her voice disguised or was she just teary? I don't recall her sounding like this in any of the other interviews they have done. I thought her voice sounded like a small child's.

Yes, Lady O, I've noticed that Channel 9 video have changed her voice to sound child-like. A true sounding video can be heard on SMH site....

‘I hope police focus on finding William’: Tyrrell foster mother not guilty of lying to Crime Commission

The woman was hauled before the secretive crime-fighting body to answer questions about the boy’s disappearance.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Kurve]

I just watched this.
Was this all of it?

It's not behind her as she's claiming, she got off lying to the CC on a technicality and still has to front for the assault charges, surely she will be found guilty given her admissions.

I don't understand the dramatic sobbing in relief as if she's home free, I'd be more concerned about assaults convictions against a child than a conviction for lying to a few suits at the Crime Commission.

 

[Awakening]

Awakening
Is this your only evidence of what you refer to as Police (whilst delivering a summons to the FM to appear b4 the NSW Crime Commission) of offering her immunity from prosecution for something(s)?

Apologies if I misinterpreted your post or there is something else you posted earlier I have missed to add to evidence of your "immunity" claim.

The word immunity wasn’t used. Was in an article yesterday, that they gave the FM the opportunity to come clean at the Crime Commission and there wouldn’t be consequences? Something like that. Was in daily Mail.

 

[BFew]

The word immunity wasn’t used. Was in an article yesterday, that they gave the FM the opportunity to come clean at the Crime Commission and there wouldn’t be consequences? Something like that. Was in daily Mail.

When you catch up with all my posts last night/today, you'll see I found 2 other possible implied immunity for the foster mother (some form of) examples.

 

[Lady O]

Yes, Lady O, I've noticed that Channel 9 video have changed her voice to sound child-like. A true sounding video can be heard on SMH site....

‘I hope police focus on finding William’: Tyrrell foster mother not guilty of lying to Crime Commission

The woman was hauled before the secretive crime-fighting body to answer questions about the boy’s disappearance.

www.smh.com.au

Funny, I can't find the news footage I watched on Ch 9 now. They definitely altered her voice to sound like a 5yo!!

 

[BFew]

Funny, I can't find the news footage I watched on Ch 9 now. They definitely altered her voice to sound like a 5yo!!

Someone at Ch9 might be losing their job for that (or getting a promotion).

 

[Lebbo73]

The WT investigation descends further into the farcical.

 

[OnTheRocks]

I don't understand the dramatic sobbing in relief as if she's home free

Have you ever been publicly accused of knowing where a missing child's body is?

 

[Kurve]

Have you ever been publicly accused of knowing where a missing child's body is?

I've never been charged with assaulting children and had them removed either, I've never beaten or kicked them behind closed doors and I've never had one in my care simply vanish. I'm surprised it took so long for the FM to be accused of moving William's body and questioned in that frame even if she wasn't responsible, it should have been over and done with years ago.

My point though was that the FM was acquitted of one minor count of lying to the NSWCC, that's all. There are still assault charges to finalise.

 

[stormbird]

Funny, I can't find the news footage I watched on Ch 9 now. They definitely altered her voice to sound like a 5yo!!

FM on 9 News (in the video "William Tyrrell’s foster mum not guilty of lying to crime commission")

Also, Alvin and the Chipmunks, "Bad Day", YouTube

 

[Poppy Penny]

Daily Telegraph

As well, Ms Moody said that during the crime commission hearing the foster mother was never played the police tapes that were used against her in the Local Court.

I Can’t see any problem with this. For goodness sake, the Police were investigating an alleged assault on a child.

 

[JWS2019]

Daily Telegraph

As well, Ms Moody said that during the crime commission hearing the foster mother was never played the police tapes that were used against her in the Local Court.

I Can’t see any problem with this. For goodness sake, the Police were investigating an alleged assault on a child.

Exactly ! Also, pretty sure covert ops rarely publicly disclosed (and who knows maybe they are still listening in).

 

[31550]

Daily Telegraph

As well, Ms Moody said that during the crime commission hearing the foster mother was never played the police tapes that were used against her in the Local Court.

I Can’t see any problem with this. For goodness sake, the Police were investigating an alleged assault on a child.

But were they? I mean the NSWCC. Why would the NSWCC investigate a common assault?
Surely the only reason to bring the big guns of the NSWCC in would be to address William's case?
But we haven't heard any questions from the NSWCC put to the FM about William. We have only heard about the assault and the surveillance.
I have a problem with this - why go to the trouble of bringing FM before the NSWCC only to talk about an assault?
It's like buying an aircraft carrier to go fishing for flathead in the bay.

 

[Lady O]

Well, other than finding out what she was accused of lying to the Crime Commission about, there is nothing new.

We already knew the Police suspected her of disposing of WT's body, after a fall or accident of some kind. I expect that the CC hearing was originally questioning her about whether she caused the accident, by punishing WT or threatening to (eg, he ran and fell over the balcony or retaining wall). The introduction of questions on the punishment of the other child was to demonstrate that this was possible.

So until the assault and stalking charges go to court, I doubt there will be any more information forthcoming.

 

[BFew]

But were they? I mean the NSWCC. Why would the NSWCC investigate a common assault?
Surely the only reason to bring the big guns of the NSWCC in would be to address William's case?
But we haven't heard any questions from the NSWCC put to the FM about William. We have only heard about the assault and the surveillance.
I have a problem with this - why go to the trouble of bringing FM before the NSWCC only to talk about an assault?
It's like buying an aircraft carrier to go fishing for flathead in the bay.

Maybe your post helps explain why the Foster Mother was found not guilty yesterday.

Because of risks of unintended or feared consequences for either the NSW Crime Commission, NSW Police, the NSW Justice System, and as a consequence NSW Government, if the Foster Mother appealed a guilty verdict (false or misleading the NSW Crime Commission).

Imagine all the things that the Foster Mother's legal team could have questioned and challenged about the priorities, processes, methods and powers related to the NSW Crime Commission. All in the lead up to, or during the March 2023 NSW State Election.

 

[Awakening]

But were they? I mean the NSWCC. Why would the NSWCC investigate a common assault?
Surely the only reason to bring the big guns of the NSWCC in would be to address William's case?
But we haven't heard any questions from the NSWCC put to the FM about William. We have only heard about the assault and the surveillance.
I have a problem with this - why go to the trouble of bringing FM before the NSWCC only to talk about an assault?
It's like buying an aircraft carrier to go fishing for flathead in the bay.

That’s what I want to know. Why on earth would they be at the crime commission for this? Unless they weren’t but this is the only thing that’s come out about it because of the charges.

 

[BFew]

Why on earth would they be at the crime commission for this?

Surely both the Foster were at the NSW Crime Commission for what happened to William in general, and the spoon incident was just one of many things that they were questioned about by NSW Crime Commission, in relation to William, his sister, and their behavior in caring for any kids in their care.

 

[Awakening]

I’ve been thinking about why the fosters parents called to the NSW Crime Commission in the first place.

If it was about WT’s disappearance, that doesn’t make sense to me, given there was a coronial inquiry.

Maybe it was about the NSW police. After Gary’s charges, were they looking into some sort of corruption within the police force?

 

[Kurve]

I’ve been thinking about why the fosters parents called to the NSW Crime Commission in the first place.

If it was about WT’s disappearance, that doesn’t make sense to me, given there was a coronial inquiry.

Maybe it was about the NSW police. After Gary’s charges, were they looking into some sort of corruption within the police force?

When Tiahleigh Palmer who was also a foster child was murdered, there was a Coroner's inquiry and it was halted in a very similar way to the WT inquiry. What we didn't know through the spell, was that the Queensland Crime Commission moved in on the investigation and called all involved parties in for questioning.

They solved the case.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

When Tiahleigh Palmer who was also a foster child was murdered, there was a Coroner's inquiry and it was halted in a very similar way to the WT inquiry. What we didn't know through the spell, was that the Queensland Crime Commission moved in on the investigation and called all involved parties in for questioning.

They solved the case.

Quite different circumstances though. Placing a vulnerable young girl in that family with older teenage boys was a disaster waiting to happen. Total mismanagement by the authorities.

 

[BFew]

I’ve been thinking about why the fosters parents called to the NSW Crime Commission in the first place.

If it was about WT’s disappearance, that doesn’t make sense to me, given there was a coronial inquiry.

Makes sense to me taking into account how the NSW Crime Commission works with the NSW Coroner and NSW Police on investigations.

I've already posted about this in here.
Here's a quick long refresh.

Don't forgot that the NSW State Coroner during the 2014 - 2017 phase of the William Tyrrell investigations, is the current NSW Crime Commissioner (Aug 2020 - current).

So some issues that the current NSW Crime Commissioner had with the case from his prior involvement in and knowledge of the case, might have only had the opportunity to synthesise into NSW Crime Commission interviews of one or both of the fosters, very recently.

Interesting that the current NSW Crime Commissioner Michael Barnes (from Aug 2020) who was also the NSW Coroner (2014-2017 until he spent 3 years as NSW Ombudsmon), was the QLD Coroner in the Daniel Morecombe case.

Coroner who helped crack Daniel Morcombe murder tasked to William Tyrrell case

The coroner who helped crack the Daniel Morcombe murder case has been tasked with assisting the investigati...

www.9news.com.au

'Coroner who helped crack Daniel Morcombe murder tasked to William Tyrrell case
1:40am Oct 24, 2016'

'NSW State Coroner Michael Barnes has revealed he is working "closely" with homicide detectives probing the disappearance of the then three-year-old, The Daily Telegraph reports.

However, Mr Barnes added that no steps had been taken to open a coronial inquest at this stage.

The development is a result of changes to the way the coroner's office works with the homicide squad, which were initiated by Mr Barnes.'

'Mr Barnes said that while inquests into unsolved homicides are usually held after a police investigation concludes, coronial courts can help to advance investigations.'

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/william-tyrrell-coroner-who-cracked-morcombe-murder-now-on-tyrrell-case/news-story/52f56fd9f743bf83491a28e8fc6acc53

'October 23, 2016 - 11:00PM'​

'William Tyrrell: Coroner who cracked Morcombe murder now on Tyrrell case​

EXCLUSIVE: THE coroner who helped crack the case of murdered teenager Daniel Morcombe has been drawn into the disappearance of William Tyrrell.'

NSW State Coroner Michael Barnes, known as “Cold Case Barnes” because of his work on unsolved murders, has confirmed he is working “closely” with homicide detectives but there are no steps yet to open an inquest into the toddler’s disappearance.

Mr Barnes has been receiving regular updates on the country’s biggest missing persons case.

It is part of the overhaul of the close working relationship between the homicide squad and the coroner’s
office initiated by Mr Barnes, who also shook up his former office as Queensland State Coroner by getting involved sooner in unsolved homicides.
....
As the police investigation reached a dead end and over the objections of the police commissioner, Mr Barnes held an inquest at which he called the various “persons of interest’’ to give evidence. It led to the arrest of paedophile Brett Peter Cowan and his jailing for life for Daniel’s murder.

William Tyrrell’s file was referred to Mr Barnes’ office last year. He has the power to hold an inquest whenever he feels it is necessary or appropriate.

Mr Barnes said that while an inquest into an unsolved homicide was traditionally held at the close of the police investigation, a coroner’s court can play an important role in the investigation itself.'

Some interesting quotes from Michael Barnes (current NSW Crime Commissioner, and ex NSW Coroner, including in the William Tyrrell case)
approach to Coroners in the below 2013 article.

Outgoing State Coroner reflects on headline-making tenure

For a decade, Michael Barnes took a central seat when the worst of humanity was scrutinised.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

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'July 10, 2013'
'Mr Barnes said he passionately believed the coroner's office should be more closely allied to the police service than the Department of Public Prosecutions or the courts.

“The police and the coroner are both investigating how did the death occur, and then other agencies decide what should be the consequence of that conclusion,” he said.

“In my view coroners need, and in some cases should, get more involved in establishing the facts in suspicious cases.

“A number of lawyers all testing the same evidence are likely to find ways forward that wouldn't be available or immediately apparent to the officers who were initially involved in it and since have had to move on to other cases."'

 

[BFew]

Funny, I can't find the news footage I watched on Ch 9 now. They definitely altered her voice to sound like a 5yo!!

Here's the Ch9 chipmunk version
and then an ABC version which appears to have deepened/distorted the Foster Mothers voice.

I'm now convinced that the media were asked to modify the Foster Mothers voice to make it harder to identify who she is.

William Tyrrell's foster mother found not guilty of lying

Follow the latest news headlines from Australia's most trusted source. Read in-depth expert analysis and watch live coverage on ABC News.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Awakening]

Here's the Ch9 chipmunk version
and then an ABC version which appears to have deepened/distorted the Foster Mothers voice.

I'm now convinced that the media were asked to modify the Foster Mothers voice to make it harder to identify who she is.

William Tyrrell's foster mother found not guilty of lying

Follow the latest news headlines from Australia's most trusted source. Read in-depth expert analysis and watch live coverage on ABC News.

www.abc.net.au

Or they can’t stand the sound of her voice