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little graham said:
maybe and I'm only guessing, she realized the bullshit she was being taught at that school? The bullshit peer pressure being in such a school, how to get the top you gotta tread on other people. The drugs helped her escape that pain. because it is pain, it's horrible when see how cruel the mob is,the mentality they have, the hypocrisy.
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I doubt that - she was very much one of them. She thought it was 'cool' at the time. Sadly, a few of her friends ended up the same way.
 
estibador said:
I have a pretty addictive personality and used to hit the speed pretty hard back in the day. Even in my worst periods I always felt like I was in some semblance of control though, no matter how tenuous.

But it only took a few hits of meth for me to realise it was a beast I would never be able to tame if I had regular access.

Different stokes I guess...
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at least you still have your teeth :)
 

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Honestly, I shake my head at all the people in here back-slapping each other about how cool, good, safe, etc it is to take drugs. And how people who don't are idiots, losers, prudes, etc.

ALL drugs are bad. Anything the body NATURALLY produces is not a drug. Drugs are an external thing brought into the body, and they ALL have long-lasting effects. They all cause imbalances in the finely-tuned chemical make-up of the brain, and body.
 
GG said:
Honestly, I shake my head at all the people in here back-slapping each other about how cool, good, safe, etc it is to take drugs. And how people who don't are idiots, losers, prudes, etc.

ALL drugs are bad. Anything the body NATURALLY produces is not a drug. Drugs are an external thing brought into the body, and they ALL have long-lasting effects. They all cause imbalances in the finely-tuned chemical make-up of the brain, and body.
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I like drugs, they are fun and you're a communist if you disagree.
 
The Passenger said:
FWIW I find most people who don't use mind altering substances to be quite boring. Not a hard and fast rule but I've yet to strike up a close friendship with someone who doesn't at least drink.
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I see you've been around since 03 - I noticed a trend around the time of the Cousins saga that a lot of the more interesting posters on this site were the same ones who had a pretty relaxed attitude towards drugs in those threads.

There was also an interesting correlation I noticed (though perhaps it was perception bias on my behalf) that quite a few of the militant anti-drug crew were the types who could barely put together a coherent post.

Found that interesting because the perception is often peddled that drug use is a symptom of lower class stupidity, yet I've seen a few studies that claim intelligent people are more likely to try illicit drugs than the opposite (other socio-economic factors being equal).
 
estibador said:
Found that interesting because the perception is often peddled that drug use is a symptom of lower class stupidity, yet I've seen a few studies that claim intelligent people are more likely to try illicit drugs than the opposite (other socio-economic factors being equal).
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I would never recommend acid to someone who doesn't have a solid level of intelligence.
 

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little graham said:
maybe and I'm only guessing, she realized the bullshit she was being taught at that school? The bullshit peer pressure being in such a school, how to get the top you gotta tread on other people. The drugs helped her escape that pain. because it is pain, it's horrible when see how cruel the mob is,the mentality they have, the hypocrisy.
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Hahaha, you are like a stereotype of a drug using pseudo-intellectual who hates 'the establishment' because you actually are expected to contribute to society! Then, when you run into problems because of your addictions, you blame your problems on those who attempt to help you.

Embarrassing really!
 
Yellow Feathers said:
I personally never had anything like "orange centaurs" or blue smurfs or talking dragons when using psychedelics. I think that stems from disinformation spread by media and other outlets- either purposefully (because it opens our minds and this is dangerous to governments) or because they know little about them and think that's what actually happens. Psychedelics are nothing like that but open up a whole new set of realities that very interesting... Most of the people with a negative opinion on them have never actually tried them. They have a whole set of prejudice and "knowledge" derived from what they've heard and not experienced. It's like reading a book on planes and then telling a pilot how to fly.

My tip- try something for yourself if you want to have a valid opinion. A good rule of thumb is that if the government think you shouldn't be doing it, there's something they don't want you to know. They are more than happy for you to drink and smoke your way to an early death.;)

I saw an article the other day about Holographic Universe theory and how science thinks there's actually signs/evidence that we're living in a holographic universe. Sounds crazy, but theories of reality should be explored. Once science catches up to what the hell our reality/universe is it won't sound so crazy anymore. Stephen Hawking touches on similar subjects in "A Brief History of Time" and is regarged as a genius for his theories.

To me, psychedelics open up the awareness of other diminesions/realities that could actually be present. Try DMT and tell me what your thoughts are?
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Very cute. I don't moralise about drugs. We all make choices and I know people who've made bad choices with alcohol and heroin. I feel sorry for the people in blast zone, not the person who lit the fuse.

My opinion is valid because we all bear the cost of misadventure. Good luck seeing through time.
 
Messenger said:
Very cute. I don't moralise about drugs. We all make choices and I know people who've made bad choices with alcohol and heroin. I feel sorry for the people in blast zone, not the person who lit the fuse.

My opinion is valid because we all bear the cost of misadventure. Good luck seeing through time.
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DMT is completely harmless, though. I agree with you in the case of alcohol and heroin. These things need to be talked about and not just all grouped together as the same evil concept called "drugs".
 
The Passenger said:
I would never recommend acid to someone who doesn't have a solid level of intelligence.
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You have to have a pretty solid base of emotional intelligence too.

I was pretty lucky that the first time I took (too much) acid I'd already had a 'bad' trip on shrooms in Amsterdam where I though I was going to jump out of a 4th story window.

Shrooms are like training wheels for real acid, and without that grounding I think I would have had a real bad time. You have to be secure enough to just completely let go because if you try to fight it things can get real nasty real quick.

I think a lot of these reports of 'bad trips' are unprepared people freaking out and trying to fight the effects, which is pretty much the worst thing you can do.
 
Yellow Feathers said:
DMT is completely harmless, though. I agree with you in the case of alcohol and heroin. These things need to be talked about and not just all grouped together as the same evil concept called "drugs".
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How do we know it's harmless? Srs.
 
Yellow Feathers said:
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Wait a sec....This threads about Dream weed? (smoking the bark from maidens wattle you can mix it with methanol and sniff it for really strong effects)

:lol: oh kids these days. :lol:

Aboriginals have been smoking this shit for years. Ain't nothing special it's just brings on conscious dreaming.

Don't get me wrong it kicks arse, but I thought this was some special New drug.
 
The truth about drugs is probably in the middle.

You can go your whole life smoking a bit of weed or having a few lines. There are plenty of people, famous or regular, who have jobs and kids and don't have to hold up BPs with a lighter to pay for a fix. It's pretty childish to just say how bad drugs are because one person you know ruined their lives. Come on, don't be so narrow.

Drugs though certainly shouldn't be a forum for circle jerks and back-slapping and some competition. It's not something you rush into or something you haphazardly buy at a club at 2am. And it's not something you shouldn't research. Having a leash on your intake, alcohol or eccies, is always going to be a good thing as well.

But the old "you do know alcohol is a drug!" quip is probably the most immature comeback, though. Barely groundbreaking. Everyone realises it. You're just confining a pretty dense topic to something way too simple.

I am considering doing acid next weekend though...
 
Silent Alarm said:
The truth about drugs is probably in the middle.
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The truth always is - and this is one of the problems with the zero tolerance education approach.

You try scare kids into thinking they'll die if they try drugs, then once they actually do try them and survive they'll dismiss your claims as bullshit even if you had some valid points amongst the hyperbole.

The truth is drugs are fun but can be dangerous. They need to be treated with respect, but that message gets lost if kids think you're flooding them with fundamentalist propaganda.

Silent Alarm said:
But the old "you do know alcohol is a drug!" quip is probably the most immature comeback, though. Barely groundbreaking. Everyone realises it. You're just confining a pretty dense topic to something way too simple.
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Disagree. That comeback will never get old. It's staggering how many people let the government decide their morality for them.

Why is alcohol a morally permissible drug yet weed is not when the former is arguably far more destructive to society? There's absolutely no logic other than 'Canberra told me the alcohol is legal'

The contradiction seems obvious to many of us but so many people are blind to the obvious. Never hurts to try jar them out of their stupor, even though most are willing to live with the blatant cognitive dissonance.

Silent Alarm said:
I am considering doing acid next weekend though...
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From what I've read of your posts I think you're a prime candidate for the benefits of LSD. Stay safe though mate, and to get the best out of it spend the comedown wall-glowing downtime on personal reflection and writing, not useless crap like playing video games.
 
Took acid a few times back in uni and the first one I took (a microdot) was a mindblowing experience, the other couple of ones I took were pretty average so didn't bother with them again, especially when were they were about 50 bucks a pop. Much cheaper just to smoke dope.

Acid is probably the least destructive and least addictive drug I've taken, I was doing ecstasy almost every weekend when I was living in London along with a fair bit of coke as it was so cheap and available there and pretty much got addicted to it. Got to the stage where I couldn't even go out for a night at the pub without dropping a pill or snorting a line and needed to take more and more to get the same buzz. If it wasn't for my visa running out I probably would've ended up in drug rehab.
 

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