Society/Culture Do less intelligent people gravitate to conservative/right wing ideology?

[Grin]

I rose from the slums to a property and business empire.

Let me tell you, when you come from nothing, and crawl and fight your way out to become wealthy, you hate everyone equally !

What an incredible story, and as a tax payer, I obviously own a lot of credit for your heroic success.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

What an incredible story, and as a tax payer, I obviously own a lot of credit for your heroic success.

 

[Gethelred]

I have zero problems. I play golf 4 days a week, have a beautiful family, and enjoy every second of my life….

I honestly don’t care what you believe or what anyone does or believes, as long as they don’t interfere with me.

The problem you have is labelling everyone who believes something different to you as an idiot.

I don’t vote for the crazy new liberals, and I wouldn’t vote for Labor either.

I don’t even want to vote. I am an economic conservative though, I rose from the slums to a property and business empire.

Let me tell you, when you come from nothing, and crawl and fight your way out to become wealthy, you hate everyone equally !

But I wanted to know about your bootstraps...

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Generally, people who big up their personal circumstances to strangers on the internet are those living in mummy’s basement trawling questionable websites.

 

[Mofra]

Generally, people who big up their personal circumstances to strangers on the internet are those living in mummy’s basement trawling questionable websites.

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[52Goals4inGranny]

What an incredible story, and as a tax payer, I obviously own a lot of credit for your heroic success.

But I wanted to know about your bootstraps...

Generally, people who big up their personal circumstances to strangers on the internet are those living in mummy’s basement trawling questionable websites.

Boys, just because you haven't improved your station in life don't be jealous of me....

 

[kranky al]

Boys, just because you haven't improved your station in life don't be jealous of me....

Have you bigly’ed yourself?

 

[52Goals4inGranny]

Have you bigly’ed yourself?

On paper you would imagine that you would be happy for me....but that's not the case is it?

It's only fashionable to pretend to be a lefty

 

[Gethelred]

Boys, just because you haven't improved your station in life don't be jealous of me....

 

[Borough Blood]

No.

Incorrect.

 

[Cap]

Well done! We both know that the uncultured liberal/left buffoons on this thread would've been asking themselves: "how can a conservative fine an "expert" that goes against the majority?" I knew you meant find.

Going by what is happening in places like Florida, I'm 100% certain they'd fine anyone they could or jail them or ban their books.

 

[Cap]

Confidence in science fell in 2022 while political divides persisted, poll shows

Confidence in the scientific community declined among U.S. adults in 2022, a major survey shows, driven by a a partisan divide that emerged during the COVID-19 pandemic.

apnews.com

This is a US survey and I'm not sure it relates to intelligence.

But it's interesting that people who vote Republican are more likely to not trust science. Don't get me wrong, the Democrats score isn't great either.

I do wonder if the problem lies in a lot of scientific advancement and understanding is directly 'attacking' peoples beliefs in something, so it's easier to simply ignore it ?

 

[Gethelred]

Confidence in science fell in 2022 while political divides persisted, poll shows

Confidence in the scientific community declined among U.S. adults in 2022, a major survey shows, driven by a a partisan divide that emerged during the COVID-19 pandemic.

apnews.com

This is a US survey and I'm not sure it relates to intelligence.

But it's interesting that people who vote Republican are more likely to not trust science. Don't get me wrong, the Democrats score isn't great either.

I do wonder if the problem lies in a lot of scientific advancement and understanding is directly 'attacking' peoples beliefs in something, so it's easier to simply ignore it ?

Humans have a preference for the familiar over the unknown, and we have a dislike of changing our minds. From there, the problem becomes rather simplistic to explain: for any population of people, you will have a group that meets at the intersection between both a greater preference for the known and a greater dislike for changing their minds.

If these people have a theory or a belief, they're not budging from it.

 

[Cap]

Humans have a preference for the familiar over the unknown, and we have a dislike of changing our minds. From there, the problem becomes rather simplistic to explain: for any population of people, you will have a group that meets at the intersection between both a greater preference for the known and a greater dislike for changing their minds.

If these people have a theory or a belief, they're not budging from it.

I know we can't, but it would be interesting to see this score over say 100 years.

I have a gut feel that the lack of trust in science is largely related to political discourse (for instance in Australia many on the right seeing Climate Change as leftist propaganda, so as the science becomes more and more definitive, the only way to not believe it is to simply dismiss the source )

 

[D Mitchell]

Humans have a preference for the familiar over the unknown, and we have a dislike of changing our minds. From there, the problem becomes rather simplistic to explain: for any population of people, you will have a group that meets at the intersection between both a greater preference for the known and a greater dislike for changing their minds.

If these people have a theory or a belief, they're not budging from it.

Gobbledegook. If "we" disliked changing our minds, we'd still be living in caves. On the micro level, "we" change our minds every day.

 

[Gethelred]

Gobbledegook. If "we" disliked changing our minds, we'd still be living in caves. On the micro level, "we" change our minds every day.

Misinterpretation. I leave it to you to decide whether you want it known as deliberate or out of ignorance; would you prefer to be known as disingenuous or foolish?

If you want to have that conversation, I'm perfectly happy to have it another time.

 

[D Mitchell]

Misinterpretation. I leave it to you to decide whether you want it known as deliberate or out of ignorance; would you prefer to be known as disingenuous or foolish?[/b]

If you want to have that conversation, I'm perfectly happy to have it another time.

Misinterpretation ? How can you expect anyone to interpret, mis or otherwise, gobbledegook ? 'deliberate' ? 'disingenuous (that's a synonym for liar, isn't it ?) ? Aggression aside, what is the point of that post ?

 

[Mofra]

Gobbledegook. If "we" disliked changing our minds, we'd still be living in caves. On the micro level, "we" change our minds every day.

There's a fair amount of academic literature that supports the position that it's hard for humans to change their minds.

Why Is It So Hard to Change People’s Minds?

Our opinions are often based in emotion and group affiliation, not facts. Here’s how to engage productively when things get heated.

greatergood.berkeley.edu

Psychological research suggests that once our minds are made up on important matters, changing them can be as difficult as stopping a train hurtling at full speed, even when there’s danger straight ahead.

Why is it so difficult to make people change their minds?

It can be difficult to convince others to change their minds about a topic, sometimes even despite compelling evidence. Why? What happens in the brain?

www.medicalnewstoday.com

In part, this explains why debates can be so stressful and often unrewarding: individuals are usually more inclined to stick to their own ideas, sometimes even when faced with solid evidence against them.

A team of researchers from City University and University College London — both in the United Kingdom — and Virginia Tech Carilion in Ronake, and the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, IL, questioned what, exactly, happens in the brain that makes people unlikely to change their opinions.

 

[D Mitchell]

The 2 Articles exhibited. Both are commentaries, of political orientations, purporting to summarise so-called studies.

 

[Mofra]

The 2 Articles exhibited. Both are commentaries, of political orientations, purporting to summarise so-called studies.

So you won't change your mind about it being hard to change someone's mind?

I'm not sure how you consider them political, particularly the second one.
There are far more than just two studies.

Why Many People Stubbornly Refuse to Change Their Minds

Why many people will vigorously defend their beliefs even when faced with compelling proof they are wrong.

www.psychologytoday.com

Cognitive biases and brain biology help explain why facts don’t change minds

Here are some reasons for the natural human tendency to avoid or reject new information that runs counter to what you already know – and some tips on how to do better.

theconversation.com

 

[D Mitchell]

So you won't change your mind about it being hard to change someone's mind?

I'm not sure how you consider them political, particularly the second one.
There are far more than just two studies.

Why Many People Stubbornly Refuse to Change Their Minds

Why many people will vigorously defend their beliefs even when faced with compelling proof they are wrong.

www.psychologytoday.com

Cognitive biases and brain biology help explain why facts don’t change minds

Here are some reasons for the natural human tendency to avoid or reject new information that runs counter to what you already know – and some tips on how to do better.

theconversation.com

Your response is an American obscure psychologist commentary and a repeat of the reverse bald head ? Those are supposed to be some sort of objective corroboration of gobbledegook ? Preserve some sort of credibility, don't get down and dirty with ....

 

[Mofra]

Your response is an American obscure psychologist commentary and a repeat of the reverse bald head ? Those are supposed to be some sort of objective corroboration of gobbledegook ? Preserve some sort of credibility, don't get down and dirty with ....

Is there any information that would change your mind?
Thus far you're doing a solid job of supporting, rather than refuting, the assertion

 

[D Mitchell]

Is there any information that would change your mind?
Thus far you're doing a solid job of supporting, rather than refuting, the assertion

Information ? Gobbledook. You are better than this pseudo nonsense.

 

[Mofra]

Information ? Gobbledook. You are better than this pseudo nonsense.

Will you also dismiss these without any critical evaluation?

Festinger, L. (1957). A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance. California: Stanford University Press.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291356571_Cognitive_Dissonance_Theory_Festinger

A challenge to human evolution—cognitive dissonance

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348018033_A_Review_of_Cognitive_Dissonance_Theory_and_Its_Relevance_to_Current_Social_Issues

 

[D Mitchell]

Will you also dismiss these without any critical evaluation?

Festinger, L. (1957). A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance. California: Stanford University Press.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/291356571_Cognitive_Dissonance_Theory_Festinger

A challenge to human evolution—cognitive dissonance

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348018033_A_Review_of_Cognitive_Dissonance_Theory_and_Its_Relevance_to_Current_Social_Issues

How many more politico pseudo commentary on supposed "surveys" or "studies" are you going to post ? You and your ilk are turning Bigfooty into a clone of what Channel 9's Footy Show has now become.