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and McDonald at the swans is decent too.They produced Chad Warner so they are okay by me.
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and McDonald at the swans is decent too.They produced Chad Warner so they are okay by me.
Apologies. He was raised in Country WA, and I assumed he played his rep footy here too.Sounds like there needs to be fundamental reform, but ultimately, a third WA team would be a good thing from a talent development and financial perspective.
Pickett is from SA.
Apologies. He was raised in Country WA, and I assumed he played his rep footy here too.
Mundy and Gaff are both from VICThis would be the state WA team based on the last 10 years.
Barrass Rance Rich
Sheppard McGovern McPharlin
B Hill Fyfe Gaff
Walters Buddy Naughton
Lecras Kennedy Ballas
Ruck Nic Nat, Cripps, Yeo
Int: Kelly, S Hill, Mundy, JJ.
I might be biased, but pretty much stars and All Australians on every line and I don't think many would beat them - including the Vics.
Fair enough. Dave was probably lucky to make the bench anyway.Mundy and Gaff are both from VIC
It will work in WA and be more viable than GC, GWS & tassie. Eagles have a huge waiting list & market North of the River to tap into. Both clubs are raking in the cash, if you add a third club to generate money that goes back into junior footy, you will then have more development.I just don't think it's feasible.
In SA we have a direct split between Port and the rest of the state.
In WA you have the Perth clubs and the Freo clubs.
In SA for instance, no new club would attract any supporter base over 5000 people.
This town is split 70/30 for Crows and Port. There is no room for another.
In West Australia, if you're too tall to work in the mines you play football.Without being bothered to look too far into it, wa seems to produce far more key position players than most other states.
There's always some highly rated talls from wa each draft
I just don't think it's feasible.
In SA we have a direct split between Port and the rest of the state.
In WA you have the Perth clubs and the Freo clubs.
In SA for instance, no new club would attract any supporter base over 5000 people.
This town is split 70/30 for Crows and Port. There is no room for another.
The only thing is that so much time has passed since the Crows have come in that the majority of Norwood, Sturt supporters have already moved into supporting the Crows first, and their SANFL side second.Its off topic...
But in the right situation, South Australia can Produce a 3rd SA side in the AFL.
Its where. East side unlikely. Unless its south East to Attract the Norwood and Sturt and south adelaide fans. North East, well maybe unless you want a following with Norwood, Centrals and North Adelaide.
Western Suburbs: Port Adelaide Magpies are there. But if they dislike Port then West Adelaide, Woodville west torrens and Glenelg (south west) can be converted.
Southern Areas: It could work. Marion has 90-100,000 people living there, its also close to Glenelg oval too. South Adelaide and Sturt are both in the southern areas and produce local talent.
Northern Suburbs. Yes I know North Adelaide play at Prospect oval (I would of loved them to have a gather round game this year). Centrals has the Northern Areas of support. Elizabeth have 100-150,000 people there. You also have Salisbury and Gawler too.
To be honest, A southern Suburb side would work. Training at either Unley oval (Sturts home ground) is only a couple of kms from the City. Glenelg oval is only 5 or 6 kms away as well
It's actually interesting that some states produce certain types of players. For a long while SA produced alot of good smaller mods just when the AFL decided that you needed to be 6 foot 3 to play in the midfield.Without being bothered to look too far into it, wa seems to produce far more key position players than most other states.
There's always some highly rated talls from wa each draft
You've ignored the fact that the WA side is miles better than anything SA could put together which has been the case for as far back as I can remember.So from just an AFL draftee per population point of view, WA appears to underperform when getting kids drafted into the AFL.
WA has 2.7 million people, while SA has a population of 1.7 million people, yet WA only really produces the same amount of talent as SA does. They should be doing way better with 1 million more people, and from a footy state.
Their U18 team has also underperformed in the Nationals as well for a number of years.
Now, this isn't a slight in WA, far from it.
I have been maintaining for years that the AFL has been neglecting Jr development in SA and WA compared to the rest of Australia.
The amount of money the AFL pours into Jr development in Victoria, compared to what they do in SA and WA is ridiculous. The AFL should not be treating one state as their home state.
Leaving the WAFL and SANFL to fund and run thr Jr development in their states would be like leaving the Jr development in Victoria to the VFL. How would the Jrs look in Vic if the VFL had to do it?
I have heard it said that some of the Vic U18 clubs have better facilities than some of the SANFL and WAFL clubs do.
So, what is holding back WA talent from making it to AFL lists?
WA has had the top liners for sure. I think however in a few years that won't be the case. There has been some serious high level talent come out of SA.You've ignored the fact that the WA side is miles better than anything SA could put together which has been the case for as far back as I can remember.
It's the raw numbers, and the average performance at National level.In what time period?
I think in the last 3 years maybe, in the last 20 years they have been as good as anywhere.
Brownlows- Cripps Fyfe x 2 Priddis Cousins Mitchell
Coleman Medalists- Franklin 4 Kennedy 2
Star players at clubs in last 20 years from WA
Adelaide- Eddie Betts star of the club
Brisbane- Daniel Rich 250 games all australian C Cameron Star
Carlton- Cripps and Betts (captain brownlow best small forward conversation ever.)
Collingwood- Mitchell (played 15-18 in wa which are crucial years brownlow medal)
Essendon- Myers had a very good career at the dons at one stage had close to 10 players playing from WA off the top of my head Myers Hooker Jetta Gumbelton Kommer Lee Colyer.
Fremantle- Fyfe Brownlow x2 at one stage the best in the AFL. At the moment Luke Jackson is a top pick that has had a great start for his career.
Geelong-Harry Taylor Mitch Duncan has been a star for geelong for 10-15 years, jordan clark was a good pick from wa in recent times that ended up going home.
Gold Coast- David Swallow has been the #1 pick and the rock of gold coast.
GWS- Coniglio similar to swallow a great career so far also a top 3 pick from memory.
Hawthorn- Stratton- Captain and 3x premiership player as mature pick B Hill- very good player at hawks.
Kangaroos- Wells - a top pick that was a success at north.
Melbourne- Brayshaw top 3 brownlow premiership player.
Port- Powell Pepper atm he is playing like a star theres probably been better players in the last 20 but he looks to be building into a star.
Richmond- Rance one of the best players in the last 20 years full stop. Bolton a star of the comp.
St Kilda-
Sydney- Franklin- Best forward in last 30 years number 4 in goal kicking all time, best player taken in the last 20 years.
West Coast- Priddis Cousins brownlows, Nic Nat Mcgovern huge careers.
West Dogs- Naughton English Johannisen- Norm Smith and Star forward and Ruckmen
Best Team of last 20 years drafted from WA
Rich Rance Stratton
Mcgovern Taylor Duncan
Wells Mitchell Swallow
Bolton Kennedy Fyfe
Betts Franklin Le Cras
Sandilands Priddis Cripps
Best of Current players
Rich Barrass Baker
Mcgovern S Taylor Duncan
Swallow Coniglio Bolton
Fyfe Naughton SPP
C Cameron Allen Walters
English Cripps Warner
overall a great output by WA in my opinion.
It’s been great to see south aus latest talent for sure, but they had some lean years so it’s only natural, in the future next 5-10 years I think WA has undoubtedly the best ruckman and maybe the best KPF prospect atm as well, English and Allen. Taylor is also probably one of the best young KPD as well. Bolton is a Star and will be for the next 5 years as wel.It’s been quite lean in terms of quality on ballers last few years though, only Warner that I can think of, be interesting to see if players like Erasmus Robertson Ginbey turn into these types of players.WA has had the top liners for sure. I think however in a few years that won't be the case. There has been some serious high level talent come out of SA.
Sure, and it may change but the WA side for a while has been significantly better than SA's and almost to a point where it would challenge a Vic side.WA has had the top liners for sure. I think however in a few years that won't be the case. There has been some serious high level talent come out of SA.
Given WA has about 12% of afl players, would expect a team to be better then most premiership line ups.Mundy and Gaff are both from VIC
Yeah, SA went through a really lean period. We had alot of undersized mids, no really tall talent, and a heap of half back flankers.It’s been great to see south aus latest talent for sure, but they had some lean years so it’s only natural, in the future next 5-10 years I think WA has undoubtedly the best ruckman and maybe the best KPF prospect atm as well, English and Allen. Taylor is also probably one of the best young KPD as well. Bolton is a Star and will be for the next 5 years as wel.It’s been quite lean in terms of quality on ballers last few years though, only Warner that I can think of, be interesting to see if players like Erasmus Robertson Ginbey turn into these types of players.
Thinking back it seems as though between 2008-2015 area there were a lot of top 3 picks from West Aus but not many the last 5 years.
I can think off the top of my head Coniglio Swallow Martin Natanui Omeara S Hill Bennell
Jackson is the only top 3 pick since 2014 I think.