Draft Expert Chris25's Young Talent Time 2024

[WilloTree]

Little correction.

Cody Curtin’s for next year.

Thanks

 

[jthanos]

I haven't posted it anywhere yet - I'm still tinkering with it. There's a fair bit of late mail flying around re guys like Tauru, Simms, Goss etc. I'll pop it in here just for fun though.

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Great effort to get to 54 picks, very hard after the top 10.
Thinking about needs in the Top 10;
#8 Richmond, Smillie (Blair has coached him in u14s/15s) ahead if Langford
# 9 or 11 StKilda will take Tauru (wont take 2 mids)
#7 or 12 Melb will take Armstrong (wont take 2 mids)

 

[Chris25]

Lalor is the one that I can see going one or two, especially if a team has multiple picks in the draft, like Richmond does.
His injuries are a concern, but he could be the next Patracca, and the one who will you might have to spend your life answering why you didn't draft him when you could have.

We are truly in the golden age of the AFL. Every year we’ve gotten a new Petracca, Martin and Fyfe. Teams have never been so talented!

I think there’s no doubt that Lalor goes earlier than I have him, probably in those first two or three picks - and to be fair, I have him in the mix at 3 because I think he’s in that group after Ashcroft and O’Sullivan.

Is he a can’t miss prospect? I don’t think so. Injury history, needs to build his tank, how does his style of game go against men. Personally I prefer someone like Langford. Maybe not the same highs, but a more rounded game that doesn’t rely on just one attribute like power.

But I don’t think a team can go wrong just sticking to their board early in this draft. Well, maybe Richmond could find a way.

 

[Chris25]

I'm trying to figure out what Fremantle do this draft.

I have a feeling the club will have a fairly narrow group of prospects at our first pick and will simply tick off on who is at the top of the shopping list.

For me that includes Travaglia, Berry, Lindsay and Allen. One or more should be there, but others could be

At our next pick, if we haven't grabbed Berry we could look for another forward -midfielder. Hannaford, Davis, Hynes.

But in terms of future proofing at some stage a Pearce replacement needs to be targeted, and Ollie Murphy may have the height but lacks the pace. If we took Whitlock the development timeframe could work well. Tasmania could even be a factor for Pearce.

Is there a universe where we opt for the most upside in areas of future need and take Davis and Whitlock? Provides weapons both forward/midfield and back.

I think we stick to our board, assuming at least one of the guys we have in our top 15 will be available. Just go best available and focus on the needs after.

But my thinking would be similar, a preferably outside mid and some sort of small/medium forward with the first two picks.

I don’t think we go KPD this year - largely because there just won’t be enough spots at Peel. Ideally there won’t be the same amount of injuries and we can actually develop our young guys properly and see what we have before potentially hitting the draft again next year.

I like Davies more than most on the Fremantle board, and also think Murphy ticks a lot of boxes. And I’d be afraid to say it on the Fremantle board, but I’d love Draper to spend the entire season at Peel. If he actually learns how to defend, he could easily be the #1 guy. I’m all for him dominating the WAFL, rather than force him into the AFL side as a bit part player.

 

[Chris25]

That Pick 17 was originally Berry, but I flipped to Dattoli, then Hannaford.

I’m still of the opinion that Hannaford is more flavour of the month than genuine first rounder.

But your draft does highlight that top group as ending pretty much right on Fremantle’s pick. I think in this instance, they’d have to just take Berry as the one left from that grouping. But it does open up after we pick.

 

[Haggas]

I haven't posted it anywhere yet - I'm still tinkering with it. There's a fair bit of late mail flying around re guys like Tauru, Simms, Goss etc. I'll pop it in here just for fun though.

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Sid Draper not Sam and Cody Curtin is 2025 Draft

 

[WilloTree]

I’m still of the opinion that Hannaford is more flavour of the month than genuine first rounder.

But your draft does highlight that top group as ending pretty much right on Fremantle’s pick. I think in this instance, they’d have to just take Berry as the one left from that grouping. But it does open up after we pick.

I like kids who aren't afraid to do the hard stuff. I tend to overrate them. Did the same with Hewett.

 

[WilloTree]

Sid Draper not Sam and Cody Curtin is 2025 Draft

Yeah, got the wrong Cody from Claremont. Will fix in a jiffy.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Thoughts on Clancy Dennis?

 

[Chris25]

Thoughts on Clancy Dennis?

He’s probably my #51. He got knocked off the list just before posting.

James Barrat is the KPD I particularly like. But Dennis feels like a reasonably safe prospect to me and certainly one I’d target in maybe the third round. A few of the other talls may have a higher scope, particularly when forward play gets factored in. But Dennis seems like a good value pick.

 

[eaglevision]

He’s probably my #51. He got knocked off the list just before posting.

James Barrat is the KPD I particularly like. But Dennis feels like a reasonably safe prospect to me and certainly one I’d target in maybe the third round. A few of the other talls may have a higher scope, particularly when forward play gets factored in. But Dennis seems like a good value pick.

Just to add to this Dennis is up to 195cm and has an enormous tank for a KPD and is a neat kick. Can’t see him getting past the 50s with one club in that range in particular very keen on him.

 

[anotherletdown]

Just to add to this Dennis is up to 195cm and has an enormous tank for a KPD and is a neat kick. Can’t see him getting past the 50s with one club in that range in particular very keen on him.

No we're not....

Oh, did I just say that out aloud. Dam it

 

[Yoda_]

He’s probably my #51. He got knocked off the list just before posting.

James Barrat is the KPD I particularly like. But Dennis feels like a reasonably safe prospect to me and certainly one I’d target in maybe the third round. A few of the other talls may have a higher scope, particularly when forward play gets factored in. But Dennis seems like a good value pick.

how does he compare to Noah Mraz?

 

[Yoda_]

feels like the depth in this draft of getting a well rounded enough kid may stop the mature agers being taken..

Im an unwashed fan of Billy Cootee from his time at Essendon (VFL) so keen to hear your thoughts on he and Kobe Ryan's chances of being drafted and if anyone else has caught your eye

 

[Thunderstruck]

feels like the depth in this draft of getting a well rounded enough kid may stop the mature agers being taken..

Im an unwashed fan of Billy Cootee from his time at Essendon (VFL) so keen to hear your thoughts on he and Kobe Ryan's chances of being drafted and if anyone else has caught your eye

Coetee certainly caught my eye straight away. Slim ish but wirey and strong in the clearances, decent acceleration away from congestion and reads the game ahead of him well.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I haven't posted it anywhere yet - I'm still tinkering with it. There's a fair bit of late mail flying around re guys like Tauru, Simms, Goss etc. I'll pop it in here just for fun though.

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I would laugh if we got lowther mainly because of our coach and the name that would be funny.
Blakiston is interesting as I haven't seen enough of him to rate but Geelong have form drafting mature age back up rucks late (fort, Abbott etc) and we need a ruck given Conway's injury.

There's a lot of mail that Geelong is keen on both Clarke and Jacques.
I also think we will take at least one mature age runner-henderson has been linked I think we take either him or Davidson in the ND if we think they won't make it to the rookie draft (it becomes tactical as we have 3 rookie slots and I'm sure we would like to wait until then for say henderson and blakiston) like we did with mannagh when we took him early to ward off Port and the dogs.
I like ivisic and he deserves a chance (as a rookie probably) but he's probably too similar to what we already have.

Sims gives me casboult nightmares with his goalkicking we will take at least one kpf though I'd probably rather someone like faull late in the draft.

 

[Yoda_]

Coetee certainly caught my eye straight away. Slim ish but wirey and strong in the clearances, decent acceleration away from congestion and reads the game ahead of him well.

was Billy mainly through the midfield as we used him as. bit of a mr fix it in his time at Windy Hill. Disappointed big time to lose him as you could see the talent. Great fella to

 

[briztoon]

feels like the depth in this draft of getting a well rounded enough kid may stop the mature agers being taken..

I'm an unwashed fan of Billy Cootee from his time at Essendon (VFL) so keen to hear your thoughts on he and Kobe Ryan's chances of being drafted and if anyone else has caught your eye

I believe you mean unabashed, unless you're changing allegiances.

 

[Yoda_]

I believe you mean unabashed, unless you're changing allegiances.

yep, thank you sir for the correction

 

[Chris25]

how does he compare to Noah Mraz?

I think Dennis compares pretty well with Mraz, maybe better defensively and overall I’d probably be a little more comfortable with him at least finding a role as a #2 defender in the long run.

But I liked Mraz coming into the season. Think he’s got a pretty high ceiling, better ball user and athletic. I reckon a club takes the shot early in round 2 on the basis he’d have gone even earlier if it weren’t for injury.

feels like the depth in this draft of getting a well rounded enough kid may stop the mature agers being taken..

Im an unwashed fan of Billy Cootee from his time at Essendon (VFL) so keen to hear your thoughts on he and Kobe Ryan's chances of being drafted and if anyone else has caught your eye

I can’t say I’ve watched much of the state league stuff this year. Have to draw the line somewhere.

But between decent depth and the number of clubs committing to rookie listing their delistings (why bother I think, but that’s another topic) it does seem there’ll be less mature aged guys.

I wanted Fremantle to draft Mannagh and Clohesy last year, not sure there’s the same level of player this time around.

 

[LB2Snake]

I think Dennis compares pretty well with Mraz, maybe better defensively and overall I’d probably be a little more comfortable with him at least finding a role as a #2 defender in the long run.

But I liked Mraz coming into the season. Think he’s got a pretty high ceiling, better ball user and athletic. I reckon a club takes the shot early in round 2 on the basis he’d have gone even earlier if it weren’t for injury.



I can’t say I’ve watched much of the state league stuff this year. Have to draw the line somewhere.

But between decent depth and the number of clubs committing to rookie listing their delistings (why bother I think, but that’s another topic) it does seem there’ll be less mature aged guys.

I wanted Fremantle to draft Mannagh and Clohesy last year, not sure there’s the same level of player this time around.

Cats wil find them

 

[Freezin]

What's the knock on Cl Oliver Eastland?...consistently the WAFL's premier ruckman for the past 3-4 years. As an EF fan I am pleased to see you have Blakiston as a chance to go to Geelong. But Eastland outpointed Blakiston in both games between Cl v EF, just find it interesting Blakiston gets an AFL nod and Eastland doesn't.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think Dennis compares pretty well with Mraz, maybe better defensively and overall I’d probably be a little more comfortable with him at least finding a role as a #2 defender in the long run.

But I liked Mraz coming into the season. Think he’s got a pretty high ceiling, better ball user and athletic. I reckon a club takes the shot early in round 2 on the basis he’d have gone even earlier if it weren’t for injury.



I can’t say I’ve watched much of the state league stuff this year. Have to draw the line somewhere.

But between decent depth and the number of clubs committing to rookie listing their delistings (why bother I think, but that’s another topic) it does seem there’ll be less mature aged guys.

I wanted Fremantle to draft Mannagh and Clohesy last year, not sure there’s the same level of player this time around.

Davidson is and I think henderson will go as well.
But I agree with you in the sense that there isn't a clearly gun player in the VFL pool who will come straight in and dominate the way mannagh did later this year.

 

[Howzat1]

Simply crazy that many posters phantom drafting have Dees choosing Reid and Armstrong. Both showed little in the last few weeks of the year. Others present much better options. Langford is a lock to be picked by the Dees if available with our first pick.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Great effort to get to 54 picks, very hard after the top 10.
Thinking about needs in the Top 10;
#8 Richmond, Smillie (Blair has coached him in u14s/15s) ahead if Langford
# 9 or 11 StKilda will take Tauru (wont take 2 mids)
#7 or 12 Melb will take Armstrong (wont take 2 mids)

Why wouldn't we take 2 mids? Our young onballer stocks are Phillipou, Windhager and Garcia. Dow and Clark are in their prime but are supporting cast rather than main characters. Then we have Steele, Macrae and Jones all around 30. Ross was axed and Crouch is about to be forced into medical retirement.

I'd say Smilie and Reid would be an ideal outcome with our first two picks.