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[Grave Danger]

Federal budget expected after cyclone scuttles Albanese's election plan

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese had planned to call the election on Sunday for an April 12 poll, but that now appears unlikely due to Cyclone Alfred's expected landfall on Saturday.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Grave Danger]

It's going well for the Libs in WA - one more seat and they'll DOUBLE their 2021 result! Basil Zed has a struggle on his hands in his electorate...

 

[Festerz]

It's going well for the Libs in WA - one more seat and they'll DOUBLE their 2021 result! Basil Zed has a struggle on his hands in his electorate...

Despite some early counting wobbles Zempilas has won back the traditional safe seat of Churchlands for the Liberals.

He's received the strong support of Kerry Stokes WA media empire throughout the lead up to this election and would not be surprised to see him installed as WA Opposition leader after the election post mortems have been completed.

But let's not forget his role in destroying the brief AFL commentating career of Brett Kirk

 

[Grave Danger]

Okay, Sky News...

 

[Schulzenfest]

Okay, Sky News...

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In the same way that the 2007 Grand Final was a historic night for Port Adelaide, sure.

 

[Grave Danger]

In the same way that the 2007 Grand Final was a historic night for Port Adelaide, sure.

Not quite - this was only the second worst WA election defeat in history.

 

[TazD]

I see the presumptive US defence undersecretary has said AUKUS is a dud for them.

Scott Morrison should hang lol.

 

[Andre]

I see the presumptive US defence undersecretary has said AUKUS is a dud for them.

Scott Morrison should hang lol.

Current US policy "China is the biggest threat, let's make it so we have no allies wanting to fight with us, if it's a war!"

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[OneGreatClub]

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

 

[PowerBaz]

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This having a budget just before an election is Bullshit.

Federal elections should be sometime in March, later rather than earlier, but Easter ****s it up a bit for having a locked in date like 3rd or 4th Saturday in March.

Senators start their terms on 1st July.

It takes about 6 weeks for the electoral commission to work out who has won all of the senate seats after all the preference distributions. 4 or 5 of those 6 weeks are needed usually to just work out the last senate seat. So if an election is mid March, we should know who the elected senators are by the end of the first week of May.

You can have a budget anytime, they used to be in August, but it can be the first or second Tuesday of June, which gives an opposition coming into government, 2 full months to do their number crunching, as they would have had their policies taken to the election and worked on for months before it.

Its BS that the incumbent government can use the full public service to basically cost and do all the work for the governments election polices/promises and the opposition don't have access to these public sector resources.

There is the The Parliamentary Budget Office which does costings for all politicians and parties, but that becomes political because the assumptions made for costings aren't as thorough as a full budget process, and if you do costings to test a policy, the government jumps up and down that a new horrendous policy will be brought in by the opposition as the public service leaks to their ministers' offices.

And if a budget is done just before an election and the government is kicked out, it then locks in the new government to spending and/or tax policies it didn't take to the election in its first year, or have to basically do a new budget in October like Chalmers presented in October 2022 after the May 2022 election.

Its also Bullshit having October, November or December elections, and new senators don't take up their term until 1st July next year, and those senators that have lost their seats, for the next 6 to 8 months can block, delay or reject legislation that the winning party took to the election and is trying to implement.

And nobody does anything about it to make the whole system more effective and more efficient. This basic attitude that politicians have about that the timing of the election is the prerogative and privilege of the Prime Minister is rubbish.

The states have proved that having fixed terms, the place doesn't fall apart and those election dates are either well before a budget is presented ( usually March) or well after it has been presented (usually October) so that the government doesn't get an unfair advantage over the opposition. And whilst the states don't have to worry about up house terms starting on 1st of July helps, it doesn't mean the feds can't follow a similar process.

 

[TazD]

ITS BULLSHIT I TELL YA

 

[Andre]

This having a budget just before an election is Bullshit.

Federal elections should be sometime in March, later rather than earlier, but Easter ****s it up a bit for having a locked in date like 3rd or 4th Saturday in March.

Senators start their terms on 1st July.

It takes about 6 weeks for the electoral commission to work out who has won all of the senate seats after all the preference distributions. 4 or 5 of those 6 weeks are needed usually to just work out the last senate seat. So if an election is mid March, we should know who the elected senators are by the end of the first week of May.

You can have a budget anytime, they used to be in August, but it can be the first or second Tuesday of June, which gives an opposition coming into government, 2 full months to do their number crunching, as they would have had their policies taken to the election and worked on for months before it.

Its BS that the incumbent government can use the full public service to basically cost and do all the work for the governments election polices/promises and the opposition don't have access to these public sector resources.

There is the The Parliamentary Budget Office which does costings for all politicians and parties, but that becomes political because the assumptions made for costings aren't as thorough as a full budget process, and if you do costings to test a policy, the government jumps up and down that a new horrendous policy will be brought in by the opposition as the public service leaks to their ministers' offices.

And if a budget is done just before an election and the government is kicked out, it then locks in the new government to spending and/or tax policies it didn't take to the election in its first year, or have to basically do a new budget in October like Chalmers presented in October 2022 after the May 2022 election.

Its also Bullshit having October, November or December elections, and new senators don't take up their term until 1st July next year, and those senators that have lost their seats, for the next 6 to 8 months can block, delay or reject legislation that the winning party took to the election and is trying to implement.

And nobody does anything about it to make the whole system more effective and more efficient. This basic attitude that politicians have about that the timing of the election is the prerogative and privilege of the Prime Minister is rubbish.

The states have proved that having fixed terms, the place doesn't fall apart and those election dates are either well before a budget is presented ( usually March) or well after it has been presented (usually October) so that the government doesn't get an unfair advantage over the opposition. And whilst the states don't have to worry about up house terms starting on 1st of July helps, it doesn't mean the feds can't follow a similar process.

Common sense would be lining up Federal, State and Local elections on the same date every 4 years. With all lower and upper house seats in all parliaments then starting on the same date. If there's a need for a double dissolution election, then that parliament only applies until the next 'every four years' date rolls around. If you push it out to every 4 years, you could argue for the full Senate being elected every time anyway.

 

[Festerz]

This having a budget just before an election is Bullshit.

Federal elections should be sometime in March, later rather than earlier, but Easter ****s it up a bit for having a locked in date like 3rd or 4th Saturday in March.

Fixed terms and election timings in Australian states can be set and changed by legislation.

The election process, election timing and parliamentary terms at the Commonwealth level are set out in The Constitution. Changing any one of them requires a national referendum requiring agreement from the majority of voters in the majority of states.

And we all know how likely that is of happening.

Just be thankful we didn't have to vote during the 1972-1975 period where voters went to the polls three times in three years because of a hostile Liberal Party/Country Party dominated Senate blocking key legislation or supply to the Whitlam Labor Government.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Fixed terms and election timings in Australian states can be set and changed by legislation.

The election process, election timing and parliamentary terms at the Commonwealth level are set out in The Constitution. Changing any one of them requires a national referendum requiring agreement from the majority of voters in the majority of states.

And we all know how likely that is of happening.

Just be thankful we didn't have to vote during the 1972-1975 period where voters went to the polls three times in three years because of a hostile Liberal Party/Country Party dominated Senate blocking key legislation or supply to the Whitlam Labor Government.

You dont need a constitutional amendment to have effective fixed terms. You need leadership.

 

[philthy05]

NSW police say off-duty officers’ shouts of ‘Allahu Akbar boom’ after dispute with Muslim man were ‘banter between friends’

‘The chanting you heard was not directed at you in any way,’ inspector tells Sydney man who complained about neighbour’s Christmas party in Glenmore Park

www.theguardian.com

lol what a farce.


Cop has a Xmas party, Muslim neighbour complains about something , racial taunts recorded on audio (being chanted by a group) by neighbour following the complaint.

Muslim guy reports it to nsw police with the audio recordings as proof.

Nsw police tell man that it was banter between friends unrelated and not targeted to the man.

Does this guy think we’re stupid?

Corrupt campaigners.

 

[snozulu]

Just getting ready for work and see an ad with Tucker Carlson promoting Clive Palmer

 

[PowerBaz]

Just getting ready for work and see an ad with Tucker Carlson promoting Clive Palmer

 

[GremioPower]

It was hard to find a proper thread for this. I should be observing Lent. Still, I’ll do a short reply just to help the conversation.

The old free speech is gone argument… please.

portforever has a point. I can say from my Brazilian experience. We don’t have free speech as the Americans either. Still, it’s not as free as it once was. That’s the point.

This is actually common practice in times of deep political crisis. It’s the reason why it’s happening here and why I believe it could be the case in Oz.

If that’s good or bad, if that’s necessary or unnecessary, those would be different discussions entirely. We should be having those discussions, instead of avoiding them by stating that “speech has never been free”.

 

[Andre]

American's are confused/don't bother to check, that despite the Australian consumer market (TV, clothes, electronic goods, food etc.), largely being a smaller version of the US (more so than Europe is), Australia's culture/beliefs/political leanings are closer to Europe's. If Temu Trump gets to even 5% of the votes I'd be shocked. To the nearest %, my guess is 2%, with 4% in QLD.

 

[Grave Danger]

Better to have more money in people's pockets than sandpaper, hey Davey - even if it's Aussie produced sandpaper...

'I need to join': Warner floats shock political career​

Cricket legend David Warner has floated a shock switch to politics.
"I think I need to join and become a member of parliament!! Thoughts???," he said via X.

When quizzed on where he would fit in Australia's political landscape, Warner said he would want to back local products.

"Love the insight, more about what does everyone need and want," he said.

"Lower income tax, more money in peoples (sic) pockets, raise GST. Not sure what the answer is. But we need to protect home first!!! Back Australian products."

LINK

 

[RonSon]

Lower income tax, more money in peoples (sic) pockets, raise GST.

Um, Dave...