Dream Time game in Darwin a nightmare for locals

[darcytiger]

Racism is strong around here

If you're referencing the fact that one race in particular should have been given access to tickets instead another race then yes, you are correct.

 

[darcytiger]

Also, now that race has been mentioned im sure some white knight moderator will shut this thread down to show what a good boy they are to their other moderator friends.

 

[Greenac]

If you're referencing the fact that one race in particular should have been given access to tickets instead another race then yes, you are correct.

The undertones are clear. There is a very clear problem when the AFL holds a dreamtime game, pumps it up as being held in NT and the majority of the limited crowd is white.

If you can't see the problem you are part of it.

You likely haven't experienced the same inherent disadvantages others have and that is fine, but it is less fine to flaunt the fact.

 

[Sterge]

The undertones are clear. There is a very clear problem when the AFL holds a dreamtime game, pumps it up as being held in NT and the majority of the limited crowd is white.

If you can't see the problem you are part of it.

You likely haven't experienced the same inherent disadvantages others have and that is fine, but it is less fine to flaunt the fact.

Why are you assuming the crowd will be mostly white are you trying to say indigenous people can't afford memberships? That's pretty racist mate.

 

[kozi]

The undertones are clear. There is a very clear problem when the AFL holds a dreamtime game, pumps it up as being held in NT and the majority of the limited crowd is white.

If you can't see the problem you are part of it.

You likely haven't experienced the same inherent disadvantages others have and that is fine, but it is less fine to flaunt the fact.

Probably best to check the inherent belief you seem to have that indigenous people are poor therefore can’t afford memberships. That’s by far the most racist thing that’s actually happening here.

 

[YippeeYiYeo]

Why are you assuming the crowd will be mostly white are you trying to say indigenous people can't afford memberships? That's pretty racist mate.

 

[VicBased]

He's trying to manage Darwin, might as well do Perth while he is at it.

If you two are members i would expect you to do the right thing and donate your seats next week to a local indigenous person.

Have you ever been to Darwin or Perth? If you have then this is a very dumb statement to make. I would understand if you haven't been to both City's then i would put it down to ignorance.

 

[Greenac]

Probably best to check the inherent belief you seem to have that indigenous people are poor therefore can’t afford memberships. That’s by far the most racist thing that’s actually happening here.

That's not what I'm saying at all. Statistics show that indigenous people are on average less wealthy and more disadvantaged.

Noone is saying they are all poor.

What nonsense, listen to the evidence.

 

[Greenac]

Why are you assuming the crowd will be mostly white are you trying to say indigenous people can't afford memberships? That's pretty racist mate.

See my other post. Cannot argue with statistics.

My whole point is that if the AFL is going to make a big song and dance about it being a celebration of our indigenous people and culture they could at least make sure they are well represented at the ground.

Giving precedence to members when the people you are celebrating are statistically more likely to be disadvantaged is tone deaf. Does that mean no indigenous people have money? No.

 

[Sterge]

See my other post. Cannot argue with statistics.

My whole point is that if the AFL is going to make a big song and dance about it being a celebration of our indigenous people and culture they could at least make sure they are well represented at the ground.

Giving precedence to members when the people you are celebrating are statistically more likely to be disadvantaged is tone deaf. Does that mean no indigenous people have money? No.

That's a problem with the afl marketing then, members should always get precedence. Members are the only reason some clubs will survive this season.

 

[Greenac]

That's a problem with the afl marketing then, members should always get precedence. Members are the only reason some clubs will survive this season.

And there you have finally arrived at my point this whole time. The message is completely tonedeaf.

 

[windyhill]

Should be a great occasion, watch us balls it up big time.

 

[Blackas87]

Not sure why the AFL didn’t schedule more than the usual one game in Darwin this year.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

3 minutes.

That's how long the limited seats available to the public lasted.

Only 5400 seats were released and most of these were snapped up by club members and 'other priority' corporates and VIPs.

Only online tickets available with a hand full of gate tickets available.

There are thousands of very disappointed and angry indigenous fans who never had a chance to get tickets. This game has pretty much locked out the fans it was targeting by bringing this game to the NT.

All in a location with zero local Covid cases for months.

Don't be surprised to see fans jumping fences and angry crowds outside the stadium.

what’s the capacity?

 

[dean33]

The solution could be several forms.

Don't pre release tickets to non members. There were other 'priority' releases of tickets before the public were offered the scraps.

Why restrict the crowd numbers so hard when there has been zero community transmission for months in the NT.

And in reality why even bother taking a Dream Time game to Darwin when you would have known that thousands of indigenous supporters would be locked out? Many of those being indigenous peoples who will still travel hundreds of KM only to be confronted with watching "the elite lucky few" who had a chance to get into the game.

For the feel good aspect of the Dream Time game that highlights indigenous players, peoples and reconciliation in this years game it will end up being predominately the well off and connected who get to attend.

You call it a whinge.

I'm just calling out the hypocrisy of holding the Dream Time game at a location that ends up locking out thousands of people the game is there to represent where the well off and connected get to attend.

IMO its poor management.

So you’re blaming the AFL, Richmond and Essendon for the reduced capacity that is obviously an NT government decision? Best to take it up with your local member. And I’m not talking about the paid up members you are so outraged about attending this game.

 

[Niggles]

Disappointing but I guess when the ground capacity being only 12,500 and made even less due to Covid restrictions this was bound to happen.

Not sure what solution the OP had in mind other than just having a whinge?

Ummm you did see his supported team didnt you. I rest my case your honour

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Must suck not being able to go the footy.

 

[Black white]

Richmond will be without lynch, but will still to do it easily

 

[Antzzz]

Surprise surprise an outraged Westcoast fan...

 

[NT.Thunder]

Many of the tickets were already pre-allocated to local clubs and communities from an otherwise already limited seating capacity so the actual numbers available to the general public would have been way less then actually stated

 

[nutstar]

Always a game on Friday night with tickets available if the locals are wanting their football fix.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Why bother calling the game "Dreamtime at Darwin" and promoting indigenous culture if it does nothing tangible for indigenous people? Sounds like tokenism.

 

[Obeanie1]

If you’re on the money this would also be a weekly thing outside Optus Stadium given the sizeable indigenous support base that don’t get access to tickets unless they’re members.

So which is it?

What?

Is the Dream Time game played at Optus stadium every week? No.

Does Darwin get AFL games every week of the season? No.

Does Perth have the indigenous population that Darwin and the NT has? No.

Do thousands of indigenous fans drive hundreds of km every time an AFL game is held in Darwin? Yes.

Is this game specifically focusing on indigenous culture and involvement in AFL? Yes.

So what point were you trying to make?

 

[Obeanie1]

Why bother calling the game "Dreamtime at Darwin" and promoting indigenous culture if it does nothing tangible for indigenous people? Sounds like tokenism.

Sitting with half a dozen indigenous mates yesterday afternoon and they are not happy. Saying the AFL and government will roll out all the well known indigenous figureheads and put on a show but its BS if the people can't go.

Described this game in Darwin as 'just words with no meaning' to make other people feel good. None of the guys knew any of their family who could get tickets.

Interesting I spoke with a work colleague and they are Richmond interstate members. They logged on early and purchased 5 tickets on Thursday. On Friday they were contacted and were told due to the restriction on numbers they were only entitled to two tickets and had three tickets refunded.

Wonder if those tickets have now been sold or are they going to save more to be sold at the gate.

I'm also waiting for the Chief Minister to come out and allow another couple of thousand people in as the weekend of the game is our election day. And he's is copping flak and losing votes over this.

 

[Obeanie1]

Was this ever an issue with other games in the NT, Melbourne vs Adelaide? Who ever played in Darwin at TIO??

No because there was no restriction on numbers for any other AFL games

Can hold 15,000 bursting but only 5,400 allowed in for this marque game.