DT Midfielders 2010

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Callan Ward being talked up in many quarters as a strong prospect next year. Will certainly get more time through the middle but I'm a bit concerned he'll be too inside to be a natural DTr.

Only averaging 3 marks per game but plenty of tackles which shows the inside nature of his game. May need to look deeper into his stats, he'll certainly be a player, just not sure if he'll be a DTr.
 
Domenic Cassisi without a dent in his head = Average of 100

Domenic Cassisi with a dent in his head = 5 crap games, reducing his average to about 93? IIRC.

Assuming he doesn't get another dent in his head before the start of next season, is he worth a look, considering his bad finish makes him undervalued for next year?

P.S. Nice sig 54Dogs, it got a laugh out of me. And Callan Ward is a gun. Whether he'll be a DT gun or not, I don't know, but in AFL terms he's definitely going to be well worth the loss of Jordan McMahon ;)
 

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David Mackay will emerge as a true Adelaide star - just you wait and see - of course, Bernie Vince will be a popular choice, and rightfully so, but I think Mackay will be one of the big jumpers. A lot of people chose him this year and he was good without being outstanding value.
 
Domenic Cassisi without a dent in his head = Average of 100

Domenic Cassisi with a dent in his head = 5 crap games, reducing his average to about 93? IIRC.

Assuming he doesn't get another dent in his head before the start of next season, is he worth a look, considering his bad finish makes him undervalued for next year?

P.S. Nice sig 54Dogs, it got a laugh out of me. And Callan Ward is a gun. Whether he'll be a DT gun or not, I don't know, but in AFL terms he's definitely going to be well worth the loss of Jordan McMahon ;)


McMahon was a loss?:confused:

Cassisi is certainly one to keep an eye on, scoring could be linked to whether Kornes is offloaded in trade week.
 
David Mackay will emerge as a true Adelaide star - just you wait and see - of course, Bernie Vince will be a popular choice, and rightfully so, but I think Mackay will be one of the big jumpers. A lot of people chose him this year and he was good without being outstanding value.

Loved Mackay's game on the weekend, but I don't think he'll make it as a genuine DT'er. Racked up 30 possession, but only three marks, and ended up on 98. Not good enough IMO. Was all over him at a price of 50 this season, don't personally think he's worth paying mid-70's for though.
 
Cassisi is certainly one to keep an eye on, scoring could be linked to whether Kornes is offloaded in trade week.

Not sure about that, Kane gets his points from running around and getting cheapies whereas Cassisi gets his touches from in and under work/tackling. I would say that if Kane leaves the No. 1 tagging responsibility is more likely to fall to someone like Davenport, Thomas or Logan (if he's retained on the list) than Cassisi, after all he is our captain as well as being our best in and under player by far. IIRC Cassisi only got tagging roles this year post-dent in his head, which obviously would've made in and under work a lot harder and more dangerous. IMO Choco was probably just keeping him out of the action with the season all but over rather than showing an intention to use him as a tagger in 2010, with or without Kornes (who I think will still be at Port next year FWIW).
 
Not sure about that, Kane gets his points from running around and getting cheapies whereas Cassisi gets his touches from in and under work/tackling. I would say that if Kane leaves the No. 1 tagging responsibility is more likely to fall to someone like Davenport, Thomas or Logan (if he's retained on the list) than Cassisi, after all he is our captain as well as being our best in and under player by far. IIRC Cassisi only got tagging roles this year post-dent in his head, which obviously would've made in and under work a lot harder and more dangerous. IMO Choco was probably just keeping him out of the action with the season all but over rather than showing an intention to use him as a tagger in 2010, with or without Kornes (who I think will still be at Port next year FWIW).

Fair call GP.

If SBurger, Pearce and Kornes all leave, how would the Port midfield set up?
 
Fair call GP.

If SBurger, Pearce and Kornes all leave, how would the Port midfield set up?

As Ausyid said, Hartlett would probably become an instant midfielder and worth looking at. One interesting thing about all three of them leaving is it would almost guarantee Salopek moving back into the midfield (which he probably will anyway), which would be good for his DT scoring potential, and it would also lead to Robbie Gray spending a lot of time in the midfield. Robbie's been a great midfielder when played there in terms of AFL, but I'm not sure if it would translate to Dream Team (although if I was a Supercoacher he'd be a lock). He's similar to Shaun in that his value is in clearances and great skills rather than racking up possessions.

But if all three of them (or just Shaun and Pearce) left I wouldn't be touching Boak with a ten foot pole, because a lack of Shaun Burgoyne and Pearce would lead to Boak probably getting tagged every week.
 
of course, Bernie Vince will be a popular choice, and rightfully so

Vince will be a popular choice will he? What is that based on? I think the boat has sailed, he is more than fully priced now and i still have question marks over how Vince would handle a tag. Scott Thompson is cheaper, proven durable and can handle a tag. If i was looking at a crows Thompson still miles in front of Vince for me.

David Mackay will emerge as a true Adelaide star - just you wait and see, I think Mackay will be one of the big jumpers. A lot of people chose him this year and he was good without being outstanding value.

"A lot of people" I wouldn't call 1.03% a lot. but i guess we disagree on that :) 339k, there are quite a few options. Callan Ward, Brad Ebert, Tom Swift, David MacKay. Is MacKay the best of the lot?
 
Vince will be a popular choice will he? What is that based on? I think the boat has sailed, he is more than fully priced now and i still have question marks over how Vince would handle a tag. Scott Thompson is cheaper, proven durable and can handle a tag. If i was looking at a crows Thompson still miles in front of Vince for me.



"A lot of people" I wouldn't call 1.03% a lot. but i guess we disagree on that :) 339k, there are quite a few options. Callan Ward, Brad Ebert, Tom Swift, David MacKay. Is MacKay the best of the lot?
Why does your post come accross as so confrontational? You should work on that.

Although I do agree with a lot that you have said.

Thompson the proven performer whereas Vince has slid under the radar for the majority of this season. I actually think Vince is a lot more damaging than Thompson and coaches are picking up on that and he will probably recieve the number one tag most weeks next season.

I was one who selected Mackay from the start this year. He plateud with three performance in the mid 60s in a row (then I traded him out) before averaging high 90s for a four week period. Definite value there, I'm just not sure if there is enough value over other midfield options (as you say).
 

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Why does your post come accross as so confrontational? You should work on that.

I didn't know they were? Not intending them to, just trying to look at both sides of the coin.

I actually think Vince is a lot more damaging than Thompson and coaches are picking up on that and he will probably recieve the number one tag most weeks next season.

I agree Thompson no where near as damaging (and why Kornes doesn't go to vince is beyond me).
 
Clinton Young.

Played 5 games this year, so he should get a nice discount. Has a fantastic outside game for the Hawks with a very solid kick:handball ratio. His first few games last year were sensational - plays like something of a wide receiver, marking a transfer kick from the other side of the field, and then running and kicking it long into the forward line. Has a solid boot on him too, and would have the potential to push forward and kick goals.

In 2008 he only scored below 70 three times, so for mine he definately has some value as a starting pickup. Whether he develops into a keeper or not depends on how the Hawks :)
 
anyone who doesnt have tom swift from the start will be kicking themself, he epitimises dreamteam footy wiht marks, tackles, kicks and is good around the goals.
 
anyone who doesnt have tom swift from the start will be kicking themself, he epitimises dreamteam footy wiht marks, tackles, kicks and is good around the goals.

Wont be getting Swift don't see the point really. He wont make enough money to be a cash cow and I cant see him scoring enough for him to be a keeper.

Gibbs and Selwood are locked in for me.
 
Brad Ebert's time to shine. High draft pick and finished off the year quite well. Breakout season next year IMO.

Others in similar price range that could become premium:
C Masten
J Hill
D Mackay
D Armitage
C Ward
T Cotchin

And 2 guys who are premiums, but can become elite DT'ers are Jordan Lewis and Travis Boak - both currently in my side.
 
The obvious choice for me is Rhys Palmer, with a discount should be very finger licking cheap. People might be scared cause he had that serious injury but he doesnt have a history of injuries so i think he shall be gooooooooooooood. mmm mmm Rhys Pamler
 
The obvious choice for me is Rhys Palmer, with a discount should be very finger licking cheap. People might be scared cause he had that serious injury but he doesnt have a history of injuries so i think he shall be gooooooooooooood. mmm mmm Rhys Pamler

+1

Could be a nice cheap-ish keeper.
 
Brad Ebert's time to shine. High draft pick and finished off the year quite well. Breakout season next year IMO.

Others in similar price range that could become premium:
C Masten
J Hill
D Mackay
D Armitage
C Ward
T Cotchin

And 2 guys who are premiums, but can become elite DT'ers are Jordan Lewis and Travis Boak - both currently in my side.

The trick is to try and pick the guys that will break out. IMO generally this is very hard to do and the stats just cant tell you when this going to happen.

Cotchin looks the goods but cant seem to get his body right, Armitage looks like a gun but hows he going to get himself a game. Ward, Mackay and Masten are the selections I like but still i think ill stay away as ive had no luck in the past few seasons picking the right mid pricers.

But in saying that picking up a mid pricer who takes the next step to premium status is gold in dt. See Montagna, Duffield and Gilbert just to name a few.
 
Why does your post come accross as so confrontational? You should work on that.

:thumbsu:

chad, I think it is because you open with a question, which seems rhetorical as you then go on to answer your own question.

Your Vince v Thompson argument.

Thompson is a proven high scorer that is also durable, he has proven to be able to handle a tag. He has shown in games where not tagged to be a very high scorer and maybe the emergence of Vince will increase his average?
Can Vince handle the tag?
Will he maintain this form?
There are a number of question marks over Vince's scoring potential.

Ausyid, what makes you think Vince will be popular?
Do you think he is already priced too high and does not have much value left?
 
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