yepWhich is insane
Gresham + 13 for Shiel literally makes zero sense. Even if Essendon were to pay his whole salary it makes zero sense.
absolute rort
i'm very interested to see how this plays out.
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yepWhich is insane
Gresham + 13 for Shiel literally makes zero sense. Even if Essendon were to pay his whole salary it makes zero sense.
Which is insane
Gresham + 13 for Shiel literally makes zero sense. Even if Essendon were to pay his whole salary it makes zero sense.
I understand the discussion at hand. It’s being banded about by some nuffies that Essendon overpaying on Gresham nets St Kilda a compo which they then use on Shiel. It’s a poor reading of the situation by said that nuffies that’s missing the other parts that would actually benefit St Kilda.It’s not Gresham + 13, that’s the point.
St Kilda can have Gresham, or second / third round compo, or Shiel.
On no planet are St Kilda trading Gresham + 13.
As stupid as it sounds, that is what has been reported.There is obviously no way we are giving up pick 13 for Shiel.
It’s been reported by Jon Ralph. Not saying that means it’s correct, but it’s not just bigfooty chatter.I understand the discussion at hand. It’s being banded about by some nuffies that Essendon overpaying on Gresham nets St Kilda a compo which they then use on Shiel. It’s a poor reading of the situation by said that nuffies that’s missing the other parts that would actually benefit St Kilda.
Not that the brownlow is the be all and end all, but it is topical and Shiel is 30 years of age with 4 brownlow votes total in the past 3 years. He's not walking into anything.
Can he run?
It’s not Gresham + 13, that’s the point.
St Kilda can have Gresham, or second / third round compo, or Shiel.
On no planet are St Kilda trading Gresham + 13.
According to a lot of fans absolutely. What about SOS though?R2-3 compo is better than shiel.
I understand the discussion at hand. It’s being banded about by some nuffies that Essendon overpaying on Gresham nets St Kilda a compo which they then use on Shiel. It’s a poor reading of the situation by said that nuffies that’s missing the other parts that would actually benefit St Kilda.
But surelyYeah I think what’s missing is saints benefitting more from the articles I have read.
Stand alone - Gresham out might be pick 40 at the moment (just making this up don’t get fixated on it).
I’d imagine the aim is to have Gresham out.
In Dyl + bomber pick 28.
So both clubs win there.
Bombers also lose cap space (which means they miss out on a 600k crouch when they pop up).
Guess who comes out of contract next year genius.Interesting re: Bombers salary cap situation ..... we are constantly hearing they have 2 million in SC space but that was before signing Redman, Parish & Wright to larger contracts and now if McKay & Gresham come on board that space takes another big hit (very likely the 2 million gone) ...... the more interesting part being that Essendon have 23 players coming out of contract at the end of next year some of who will want bigger contracts
AFL Out of Contract Players in 2024
Yet we keep getting told by Essendon supporters that they don't need to get rid of the Shiel contract to free up space
I cant imagine that Nic Martin and co will be happy to stay on the same money they are on now
False.Interesting re: Bombers salary cap situation ..... we are constantly hearing they have 2 million in SC space but that was before signing Redman, Parish & Wright to larger contracts and now if McKay & Gresham come on board that space takes another big hit (very likely the 2 million gone) ...... the more interesting part being that Essendon have 23 players coming out of contract at the end of next year some of who will want bigger contracts
AFL Out of Contract Players in 2024
Yet we keep getting told by Essendon supporters that they don't need to get rid of the Shiel contract to free up space
I cant imagine that Nic Martin and co will be happy to stay on the same money they are on now
It's a hypothetical fantasy scenario and there is no chance the AFL would approve it.It’s been reported by Jon Ralph. Not saying that means it’s correct, but it’s not just bigfooty chatter.
CorrectYeah I think what’s missing is saints benefitting more from the articles I have read.
Stand alone - Gresham out might be pick 40 at the moment (just making this up don’t get fixated on it).
I’d imagine the aim is to have Gresham out.
In Dyl + bomber pick 28.
So both clubs win there.
Bombers also lose cap space (which means they miss out on a 600k crouch when they pop up).
The thread is on Dylan Shiel so not sure what Luke Parker has to do with it? Pretty irrelevant.Are you the biggest donkey on BigFooty?
I'd be surprised if Swans were able to get a third rounder for Luke Parker.
Am I doing it right? Is that how a 12yo brain operates?
Wright 500k or moreFalse.
It was after Wright signed his contract.
Parish is on pretty much the same money as his last two years
Redman would have gone from ~550k to 650-700k
So that means of that 2 mil, we've lost maybe 150k. Not to mention that we'd have planned for Zerk-Thatcher and D'Ambrosio to stay so whilst they weren't going to be on heaps, that's probably 500k down as well.
And as far as Nic Martin goes, we'll be shedding Shiel's contract completely next year, no? Or he'll be on a significantly reduced salary if he's with us in 2025. So he'll get a nice little pay bump next year.
I admire how deeply you're trying to fight the obvious. Fact is, you've come in misinformed (thinking Shiel will be on 1 million next year, seriously. Try 2/3 of that) and dug yourself deeper every time thinking you've outsmarted us.
That last paragraph confirms that a significant amount of space maybe required and I doubt that Essendon would want to leave it until the end of next year to sign some of those players up ..... they could very likely want to extend some now ..... cause if they miss finals again ..... well ......Also, that contract list? Two are already gone (Stewart and Munkara, showing how little we need to shed money in Stewart's case and Munkara always only had a one year deal); guys like Shiel, Heppell, Kelly, Stringer and Hind would be looking at pay cuts if they're still on the list; Tsatas, Jones, Davey, Hayes, Cox and Wanganeen wouldn't be looking at big contract upgrades barring a big surprise; Guelfi and Setterfield are both on middling contracts and will continue to be if they get re-signed.
The only guys who would be looking at significantly more at this stage would be McGrath (unlikely to be a big upgrade), Perkins (if he goes well expect a 4 year deal to take him to FA), Caldwell (should get a decent upgrade in money), Durham (from a below average to an average contract) and Martin (who I expect to get 5 years at 700-800 to take him to free agency)
Wright signed before the reported 2 million of spaceWright 500k or more
Redman 100k to 200k more
Parish more
McKay at least 800k more
Gresham 600k or more
23 players out of contract next year ..... Essendon may not want to wait until the end of next year to sign some of them up so they aren't out of contract if they miss finals again
Yer 2 million is looking thin ..... with Shiel gone it gives you breathing space
Pretty obvious Essendon want Shiel out rather than SOS desperately seeking him out
Yeah, we won't have any trouble keeping them.That last paragraph confirms that a significant amount of space maybe required and I doubt that Essendon would want to leave it until the end of next year to sign some of those players up ..... they could very likely want to extend some now ..... cause if they miss finals again ..... well ......
McKay on 650k ..... so North get band 2 compensation? ...... I am sure they will be happy with that newsWright signed before the reported 2 million of space
Redman 100-150 more
Parish the same
McKay 650
Gresham 650
That's 1.4 or so.
That 2 mill is fine. It's funny how much you're doubling and tripling down despite everyone telling you you're wrong.
Yeah, we won't have any trouble keeping them.
And look at our list profile. Very young (3rd youngest) and inexperienced (3rd least experienced) this year. Missing finals this year is far from a disaster, and it'll be the same next year.
Keep digging. It's entertaining.
AFL herbs and spices. They'll get band 1 even though it's a band 2 contractMcKay on 650k ..... so North get band 2 compensation? ...... I am sure they will be happy with that news
So an AFL dodgy to benefit both North & Essendon ..... sounds fair and above boardAFL herbs and spices. They'll get band 1 even though it's a band 2 contract
Wright 500k or more
Redman 100k to 200k more
Parish more
McKay at least 800k more
Gresham 600k or more
23 players out of contract next year ..... Essendon may not want to wait until the end of next year to sign some of them up so they aren't out of contract if they miss finals again
Yer 2 million is looking thin ..... with Shiel gone it gives you breathing space
Pretty obvious Essendon want Shiel out rather than SOS desperately seeking him out