Updated Easey St Murders Collingwood * ARREST MADE

[GreyCrow]

Our old place was different . If we didnt have a key - most times - the window next to the front door was left unlocked and we lifted it up and opened the door from there - late 70s/80s

And occasionally falling through said window

 

[GreyCrow]

So are we now ruling this person out of the earlier disappearance of Garciacelay but including possibles NG and Kiporodou - both later?

 

[jimmytigs]

So are we now ruling this person out of the earlier disappearance of Garciacelay but including possibles NG and Kiporolou - both later?

i think they can definately proceed with the garciacelay one knowing there are no connections to easey street,it was only connected in the first place through john grant

im not familiar with the other 2

 

[GreyCrow]

i think they can definately proceed with the garciacelay one knowing there are no connections to easey street,it was only connected in the first place through john grant

im not familiar with the other 2

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[Bunk Moreland]

Still, the window guy’s story never added up.



He claimed in went in through Susan’s window (the rearmost bedroom), into the hallway, checked the phone, then left by retracing the same route.

That’s all ok, apart from the fact that he saw (and even smelled) nothing. He was in hallway, facing both ways as he came and went.

Anyway, apparently the police thought it believable and, with this arrest now made (not this guy), they were very possibly right.

 

[Kurve]

Police investigating the Easey Street killings lauded for using a forensic practice that was yet to prove its worth

Detectives have been praised for collecting and preserving DNA materials during the original Easey Street investigation at a time when little was known about the use of the science in criminal cases.

www.abc.net.au

They lost the evidence for a few years though, this was discussed in the recent Easey Street podcast. Highly recommend BTW.

If they can locate lost evidence years later, there's still hope someone will stumble over Mr. Cruel's lost box of evidence.

 

[Kurve]

This is a really good podcast, well worth a listen even if since release there's been an arrest.

 

[Kurve]

Still, the window guy’s story never added up.

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He claimed in went in through Susan’s window (the rearmost bedroom), into the hallway, checked the phone, then left by retracing the same route.

That’s all ok, apart from the fact that he saw (and even smelled) nothing. He was in hallway, facing both ways as he came and went.

Anyway, apparently the police thought it believable and, with this arrest now made (not this guy), they were very possibly right.

The hallways are really dark, there's no window on the shared wall so the only light that might get through is from the bedrooms if the doors are open, even then not much. The bathroom at the end of the hallway doesn't even look like it has a window in it and the panel above the skinny front door wouldn't offer much light at all.

The offender was composed enough to clean up and wander through the house like he owned it, it would be interesting to know if he closed all the bedroom doors.

 

[Bont the Lord]

just had to have a laugh,on the suspects profile this guy sent this message to him

David John Nunn
Update the photo Dingo looks like you are in Australia

• 3y

on his profile is this

What did the suspect write in Greek 3 years ago?

 

[Visions]

He went in through Bartlett's bedroom window, to the loungeroom to check the phone number and out again through the window.

Bartlett's bedroom window shared with a laneway.

I used to live in a single fronted terrace in Prahran with a similar floorplan and my bedroom window overlooked a laneway. The window was used a bit coming and going, sometimes I'd push my boyfriend out of it the next morning.

Friends would sometimes knock on it, if they needed something and it was real late.

No big deal I think.

Here's the laneway, easy as. The picket gates weren't there back in 1977.

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I understand a window was a common way of entry back then.

I just find it weird that this guy wasn’t a friend, but a salesperson who had no right to enter the premises so was basically conducting a home invasion, and during that when he would definitely have had vision of the end of hallway at some point, didn’t notice a body nor blood smeared all over the walls.

Not to mention a kid in the next room (though he seemed to be asleep most of the time).

Totally bizarre to fathom.

 

[Kurve]

I understand a window was a common way of entry back then.

I just find it weird that this guy wasn’t a friend, but a salesperson who had no right to enter the premises so was basically conducting a home invasion, and during that when he would definitely have had vision of the end of hallway at some point, didn’t notice a body nor blood smeared all over the walls.

Not to mention a kid in the next room (though he seemed to be asleep most of the time).

Totally bizarre to fathom.

Oh, that's just his job. He was seeing Bartlett I think but it was a fairly recent connection, his name far as I can tell wasn't known for some time so he was called the Tobacco Salesman.

His name was mentioned in the Easey Street podcast which was the first time I'd heard it but I've forgotten what it was.

 

[jimmytigs]

What did the suspect write in Greek 3 years ago?

Perry Kouroumblis
Hi Manolis, my phone number is xxxxxxxxxx, I'm not good at writing or sending yours to talk

my last post got removed,must be due to posting the phone number,but geez that name is very similar to gregorys fathers name,but i guess in greece there are plenty of manolis & the other name

Gregory's Dad's name is Manilos Margueritas (not sure of the spelling)

 

[Kurve]

Manolis

That's a pretty eerie coincidence.

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[jimmytigs]

That's a pretty eerie coincidence.

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Manolis Kouroumlis​

checked Tony and my old schoolmate diamonds friends list,no similar name,but Perry has this friend,has some reels out on a fishing boat,did i see somewhere that armstrongs greek man was a fisherman?

clutching i know

 

[Kurve]

Manolis Kouroumlis​

checked Tony and my old schoolmate diamonds friends list,no similar name,but Perry has this friend,has some reels out on a fishing boat,did i see somewhere that armstrongs greek man was a fisherman?

clutching i know

Yep, a fisherman from Naxos.

I have a lot of Greek friends from school but out of the western suburbs and none of these names are familiar.

 

[Kurve]

Perry Kouroumblis
Hi Manolis, my phone number is xxxxxxxxxx, I'm not good at writing or sending yours to talk

my last post got removed,must be due to posting the phone number,but geez that name is very similar to gregorys fathers name,but i guess in greece there are plenty of manolis & the other name

Gregory's Dad's name is Manilos Margueritas (not sure of the spelling)

The surname is probably going to be Margaritis.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

EASEY STREET MURDER BREAKTHROUGH WILL TURN CITY UPSIDE DOWN

EASEY STREET MURDER BREAKTHROUGH WILL TURN CITY UPSIDE DOWN

todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au

COLD-CASE KILLINGS INQUIRY: SUSPECT NAMED AFTER 50 YEARS

COLD-CASE KILLINGS INQUIRY: SUSPECT NAMED AFTER 50 YEARS

todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au

 

[Bunk Moreland]

The hallways are really dark, there's no window on the shared wall so the only light that might get through is from the bedrooms if the doors are open, even then not much. The bathroom at the end of the hallway doesn't even look like it has a window in it and the panel above the skinny front door wouldn't offer much light at all.

The offender was composed enough to clean up and wander through the house like he owned it, it would be interesting to know if he closed all the bedroom doors.

Yep… still

I’d like to stand in that hallway even with the doors closed and see what it’s like.

I understand he was checking the number written on the phone, so must’ve been some level of light to see that (no mobile phones to light things up).

Walking (even if just a few steps) down that hallway and not seeing the blood and a body at the end of it still seems incomprehensible.

 

[Matty_G]

Yep… still

I’d like to stand in that hallway even with the doors closed and see what it’s like.

I understand he was checking the number written on the phone, so must’ve been some level of light to see that (no mobile phones to light things up).

Walking (even if just a few steps) down that hallway and not seeing the blood and a body at the end of it still seems incomprehensible.

Almost too ridiculous to be true.

Wouldn't surprise me if he did see the body but chickened out of reporting it to police initially as he'd just "broken in" to the house and would be the prime suspect. Then Police caught up with him, he initially gave the story he didn't see the body, which is the story that got released to the public. Police later scrutinised, he fessed up to seeing it but the police were able to rule him out of being the offender.

 

[Kangapirate]

Yep, a fisherman from Naxos.

I have a lot of Greek friends from school but out of the western suburbs and none of these names are familiar.

Its a pretty common name in Greece.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

It'll be interesting to see what comes out about this guy from people who knew him in the 40-odd years from, say 1970-2010ish. There'll surely be a few stories, presumably there will be some hints as to whether he was regularly coming into contact with police post the Easey Street killings. I've read that he was a metal worker and ran a business from Bulleen and then Dandenong for 20+ years.

People will probably mock his brother's protestations of innocence, but it must be difficult to comprehend if someone that close to you hasn't been in any sort of trouble for nearly 50 years and is now arrested for such a horrific crime. I think it's hard to understand what that must be like and you'd naturally clutch on to the slightest shred of hope "He wouldn't have stayed in Australia, he wouldn't have kept the knife..." as 'proof' that he couldn't have done it. As I assume almost everyone is in some way or another, he appears to be a contrast: enough sense of self-preservation and cunning enough to get out of Dodge to a safe home country where he'll be protected, but in other ways reckless enough to consider a trip to Italy to be an acceptable risk and even maintaining a public Facebook profile. Interesting that the guy on his Facebook profile who's chastised him to update his profile photo in 2021 "It looks like you're still in Australia" also has a public Facebook (and is a word class cooker) and has posted a 7 news report about the breakthrough and of Tony Karoumblis being interviewed.

I've also read on another site an excerpt from a 1996 book that Perry Karoumblis (it mentions a youth nicknamed "Perry") who was known to police was questioned 'extensively' after the discovery of the knife, but that police considered that his unimpeachable alibis, the question of 'why would the murderer leave the murder weapon in the boot of his car when cruising around the neighbourhood of Easey Street several days after the murders?' and his horror when he understood why the police were so interested in the knife in his car meant his version was suitably convincing.

 

[Crow_WA]

Still, the window guy’s story never added up.

View attachment 2118969

He claimed in went in through Susan’s window (the rearmost bedroom), into the hallway, checked the phone, then left by retracing the same route.

That’s all ok, apart from the fact that he saw (and even smelled) nothing. He was in hallway, facing both ways as he came and went.

Anyway, apparently the police thought it believable and, with this arrest now made (not this guy), they were very possibly right.

Totally agree. Some witnesses on the night are convinced there were two offenders.

The Easey Street Murders - Casefile Presents

Forty six years ago in Melbourne, Susan Bartlett and Suzanne Armstrong were stabbed to death in their home in Easey Street...

casefilepresents.com

 

[Anja_Nees]

Totally agree. Some witnesses on the night are convinced there were two offenders.

The Easey Street Murders - Casefile Presents

Forty six years ago in Melbourne, Susan Bartlett and Suzanne Armstrong were stabbed to death in their home in Easey Street...

casefilepresents.com

If he and his burglar mates were giving each other alibis there’s every chance there was more than one of them.

Doubt he’ll roll on anyone else so if there was they’ll probably get away with it.

 

[Pamcake1]

No.

In Victoria full licence has always been 18, however, in 1974 they introduced Learner's permits with a written test at 17

You could drive a tractor unaccompanied from 16 years and 9 months

I remember apprentice tradies could get some sort of driving licence earlier than 18 back then too.
As you say a full licence is 18 but not a provisional one.

Also a guy with a record for burglary would not have been unfamiliar with hot-wiring and joy riding.

Same with the question raised by others, as if only having had a record for burglary why would he commit such gruesome murders. The police record is only what he has been caught for.

 

[Kurve]

Interesting article here, out of Canada but we've seen across this board over the years that violent serial offending, often does actually start with burglaries, the Claremont killer for example.

Conventional thinking has suggested for years that predatory offences like exhibitionism or actual sexual assaults are typically the early crimes committed by future serial sex predators.

But the reality is that residential break and enters are common among incarcerated sex offenders as their first, or gateway, offence en route to becoming high-risk violent serial offenders, whether homicidal or non-homicidal.

How police underestimate break-ins as gateway crimes for sex predators

Break-and-enters are consistently common among incarcerated sex offenders as their first, or gateway, offence. But police forces’ statistical manipulation allows them to go entirely undetected.

theconversation.com