So youre argmuent in MM's favour is that our losses to Hawthorn were more honorable? Are you Monkey King in disguise?
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So youre argmuent in MM's favour is that our losses to Hawthorn were more honorable? Are you Monkey King in disguise?
Who won 3 flags.
We've been smashed against Hawthorn under Bucks everytime we've taken the field. They willingly score 100+ points with ease. Hard to see that changing.
No, they were even worse under Mick.
The three biggest losing margins against the Hawks under Mick (after 2007) were 65, 54 and 45 points, compared to Bucks whose three biggest losing margins have been 55, 47 and 38 points. We also won a flag and made the Grand Final under Mick, yet we lost by more against the Hawks despite that.
HAwks won one.
So if Hawthorn win the flag this year (and should have last year) our big losses to them are therefore more palatable?
Simplistic pulp.
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Which means even mick had a tough time containing good teams.
Hawthorn were hot last year and have also been pretty good too this year. Should have won the GF last year and will go close this year. Give Bucks a break. Hawthorn lost 6 games all of last year and only 3 this year so far. They are the best team in the comp at the moment.
He should change his username to represent the views that he holds:
THATSOLD
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How are things at Kindergarten today?
By the way, the only stat that matters is that Carlton have 16 Premierships, Collingwood have 15.
So you surround yourself with one-sided people that share your narrow world view? You must be Gen Y. No one else could be that self-absorbed.
You haven't given me any reason to open my mind to opposing position. Your responses consist of Bucks>Mick. Fabulous stuff.
Have a look at the game again. The same errors happen time and time again. The kicking into forward 50 space with no one around. The clumsy tackles, or the ones that don't stick. The kicks too low or high. The disposal to a teammate in worse position. No one crumbing whilst three players go for the same ball.
Basic stuff you learn in Under 10s. And don't give me that crap about Buckley isn't asking for that, it's the players doing it. Hawthorn and Geelong don't do it. They are finely drilled machines, Collingwood, sad to say, are not.
The forward structure, no matter how many stats you or anyone else want to throw out there, is dysfunctional. Has been since Leigh Brown left. It is the coaches job to come up with an effective, functioning one, using the personnel we have. Carlton won a couple of flags in the late 70s and early 80s with only the one real tall, because that was all they had. What is Buckley's plan?
It is absolute folly to think the side can recruit their way out of such dysfunction. Lynch is a pillock. Offers nothing. Clinton Young will never play more than 8-10 games in a season. Never.
Clarkson and Scott aren't on the field either, and their teams don't display the consistent skill errors we do. The 40 players is irrelevant. Grundy has debuted only recently - are you going to suggest he hasn't had a better impact than Jolly this year despite his youth and inexperience?
Injuries play some factor, but not as much as you defenders of the faith want the rest to believe. Sydney has had some significant outs, especially the past few weeks, hasn't harmed them. Fremantle have had significant outs. Ditto. And how many Hawthorn players returned on Friday after numerous weeks out?
Those 8 players who have never played a senior match have, for the most part, been very good. Dwyer has been excellent all season, but is clearly starting to tire. For some reason, Witts,Kennedy and Martin haven't been given a go despite excellent form in the VFL, and the ordinary form of those in the AFL side.
LOL!!! That has to be the most idiotic post Ive seen. Deciding on who is the better coach by who wins or loses a game. You obviously dont believe the abilities of the players have anything to do with the end result.
2008 round 7: 65 points
2008 round 18: 54 points
2009 round 15: 45 points
Anything else?
Mick didn't win us a premiership until his 11th season. He had his ups and downs and so will Bucks. Mick got a very generous run. I'm not sure Bucks will get 11 chances but we have to give him enough chances. The fools that are calling for his head need to pull their heads in and wait it out. We aren't planning on being the next Lions are we? Waiting until the coach has got the team he likes and has developed his coaching skill sufficiently then pulling the rug out from under him? Let's hope not.
By your logic, Carlton were a better side than us last year, despite missing the finals and us finishing top 4, since the abilities of their players would have had something to do with the end result, right?
And this is exactly why I don't debate with you. Good job attacking me instead of my argument, you've just admitted defeat right then and there.
Not only is it Bucks>Mick, but it's Bucks>God.
Try this link:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/members/bionicbeams.143249/ignore
I would do the same, but I'm enjoying watching him try to twist his arguments into his usual routine about Bucks. It's quite entertaining.
By your logic, Carlton were a better side than us last year, despite missing the finals and us finishing top 4, since the abilities of their players would have had something to do with the end result, right?
Not at all. Its a combination of the two, even then anything can happen in a game of footy that can turn the result. Everything being equal we shouldnt have lost to the scum last year at all. Does that mean Ratten>Bucks???
Thats not a fact.
THIS is a fact.
2008 round 7: 65 points
2008 round 18: 54 points
2009 round 15: 45 points
Therefore, Bucks>Mick.
and under Bucks?
No worse.
Hawthorn are our bogey team. Have been for years. They have been the best team in the competition throughout Buckleys reign as Collingwood coach.
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