Ebert To Tear Us A New One According To Rucci

[KUNG FU]

Now this is just getting funny IMO

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsid=57011

CROWS coach Neil Craig says it's possible star recruit Patrick Dangerfield could still play AFL this season, despite the 17-year-old living and studying at home in Victoria.
Craig made the comments after again being forced to defend the club’s decision to select Dangerfield ahead of local lad, Brad Ebert, who will make his AFL debut for West Coast against the Crows at AAMI Stadium on Sunday.
On Thursday West Coast forward Ashley Hansen said he hoped Ebert could show the Crows what “they missed out on” after the club overlooked Ebert at pick 10 in the 2007 NAB AFL Draft.
“The best thing that can happen now is that we let both [Dangerfield and Ebert’s] careers unfold so that people can make their own judgements and there will be a lot of debate,” Craig said.
“It’s a great occasion for Brad, but hopefully we’ll be talking about that for the next ten years and that both guys can have long AFL careers.”
Dangerfield returned to Adelaide last week where he played his first game for SANFL club West Adelaide. The talented midfielder lined up in the Bloods’ reserves and was deemed by Adelaide officials to be a “class-above”.
Craig said the club stood by its decision to select the stay-at-home Dangerfield despite Adelaide’s mounting injury list.
“It's not out of the realms of possibilities for Pat Dangerfield to play AFL footy this year,” he said.
“He could play during school holidays and he doesn’t go to school on Saturdays.
“Just because he’s not here training week after week and playing in the SANFL doesn’t mean it limits his selection. His selection will be based on his form with West Adelaide in the SANFL and also with the Geelong Falcons.
“I’ve seen a fair bit of him on our training track to know that he’s got the quality to play AFL footy and it’s something for our supporters to look forward to.
“Even though the West Coast supporters get to see Brad this week, our supporters would certainly have an element of excitement in waiting to see Patrick Dangerfield because there is some excitement about him.”

 

[Braun_2_B_Wild]

One thing i will give credit to Rucci for is today he put a loose accusation that Ben Cousin's 2nd half performance in the 06 prelim final might have been assisted by a certain substance that later came to light as a something he had a problem with.

Thats the big question that will never be answered and will forever taint that 2006 Eagles premiership.

Interesting accusation. I guess we should all tar Adelaide with the same drug brush.... especially now that your player Wayne Carey has come out and admitted he is a cocaine addict. God knows how many games he played for Adelaide whilst under the influence right? Glass houses and all.

As for Ebert he is a gun... his form in the pre-season has been nothing short of excellent and he is a born leader. As for Dangerfield well who knows... he has proven nothing at senior SANFL level yet unlike Ebert has.... anyway where did you pick him up from? Kindergarden?

 

[jo172]

Interesting accusation. I guess we should all tar Adelaide with the same drug brush.... especially now that your player Wayne Carey has come out and admitted he is a cocaine addict. God knows how many games he played for Adelaide whilst under the influence right? Glass houses and all.

We've been looking for a reason for his lack of performance!

And you've got to admit how suss Ben Cousins performance was in that game, not nearly as suss as the umpiring though ...

As for Dangerfield well who knows... he has proven nothing at senior SANFL level yet unlike Ebert has....

Funny that considering he's been eligible to play all of 0 SANFL games

Trust me, I've seen alot more of both players than you, Dangerfield will be alot better.

 

[beartoo]

The substance Cuz was using in the '06 final most likely had nothing to do with cocain. If other athletes can use performance enhancing drugs that are masked to detection, why not AFL footbalers?
The 'glass houses' comment is ridiculous. Carey had no effect on the outcome of any games he played with Adelaide as far as I remember, let alone a final.
I reckon he might have been better if he had been under the influence of drugs. Certainly has a bit of mongrel in when he is.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Its great fun having your #1 draft pick continuously bagged for little reason isnt it!

Dont worry, youll get used to dealing with Patrick 'controversially selected ahead of...' Dangerfield just like we had to deal with Travis 'controversially selected ahead of...' Boak.

Macca, is it true that Port Adelaide wouldn't have selected Ebert if he had been available for their first pick? Heard through various channels that they rated Lobbe ahead of him.

 

[Crowman32]

I would definately rather have Dangerfield than Ebert. Dangerfield has pace to burn and anyone who has seen vision of him would be extremely excited to have him. Runs likes Judd and is a clearance specialist, exactly what we need.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Interesting accusation. I guess we should all tar Adelaide with the same drug brush.... especially now that your player Wayne Carey has come out and admitted he is a cocaine addict. God knows how many games he played for Adelaide whilst under the influence right? Glass houses and all.

As for Ebert he is a gun... his form in the pre-season has been nothing short of excellent and he is a born leader. As for Dangerfield well who knows... he has proven nothing at senior SANFL level yet unlike Ebert has.... anyway where did you pick him up from? Kindergarden?

He hasnt debuted yet, he hasnt proven jack shizen at senior level. If you are just going to post West Coast propaganda, then stay on your own board.

 

[Deaneus!]

8 goals and 40 possessions plus a few pregnancies in the crowd. Lock it in.

ROFLMAO

 

[Macca19]

Macca, is it true that Port Adelaide wouldn't have selected Ebert if he had been available for their first pick? Heard through various channels that they rated Lobbe ahead of him.

Its possible but im not too sure. Would have been a lot of unhappy campers had that happened.

 

[macca23]

Did anybody else see the vision of Dangerfield training on the telly tonight?

This kid is beautifully put together and has the body to play AFL right now!!

He's tall and strongly built. We know that he runs like a hare.

I can see why the club chose him. He'll be worth waiting for.

 

[Blind Fred]

Macca, is it true that Port Adelaide wouldn't have selected Ebert if he had been available for their first pick? Heard through various channels that they rated Lobbe ahead of him.

There is even some talk around the traps that Port would have considered Dangerfield in front of Ebert. Now wouldn't that shut Rucci up.

 

[QL 21]

It's way too early to tell how the draftees will turn out. It's ridiculous at this early stage to compare them, no one can say for certain if they're going to be an OK or gun player.

I'm sure Adelaide have a few examples too, but I know with WC, some of our high picks have turned out to be duds (McDougall pick #5 and Sampi pick #6) and some of our lower picks have turned out to be stars (Embley pick #57 and Kerr pick #18).

Until Dangerfield plays a game, Adelaide will cop this unfair criticism, especially if Ebert strings some good games together, but it'll all be forgotten if Dangerfield turns out to be a star.

Good luck on the weekend.

 

[Deaneus!]

There is even some talk around the traps that Port would have considered Dangerfield in front of Ebert. Now wouldn't that shut Rucci up.

Pucci may have had an aneurysm, which is difficult to do when you don't have a brain.

Seriously, it's a rehash of a subject that's been done to death. Who knows if both or either will be good, or great, or terrible. What i find interesting is the mention that Dangerfield may play this year... is that the first official "he might play this year" from the club? Did Neil Craig take the bait? If he doesn't play, will Pucci say, "Dangerfield behind in his development"?

 

[Geoffa32]

What annoyed me about the article and I am sure it would annoy the Ebert family, is the way he used the kids debut to have a go at our club. No mention of the fact that he is from a long history of great Port Players and how good he actually could be. But the whole aim of his article is a "na na na Adelaide cant recruit" angle. The lad is a South Aussie, probably one of the best in the last five years we have produced and all Rucci can do is have a dig at us.

Ebert will be a good player, especially at WCE where he will learn from Kerr. But we have guys like him. VB Thompson Reilly Porps and Symes are all big bodied midfield type players. What we dont have is one with the extra pace. That is Dangerfield. That is what we need.

As for not recruiting a SA player have a look at Rucci's Beloved Port Power's list. The most recruited from club is the Dandenong Stingrays. They have about 42% SA players on their list compared to the Crows having 53%. Why not have a go at them for not recruiting local talent.....

But that wouldnt sell newspapers would it.

 

[Markthirtytwo]

Did anybody else see the vision of Dangerfield training on the telly tonight?

This kid is beautifully put together and has the body to play AFL right now!!

He's tall and strongly built. We know that he runs like a hare.

I can see why the club chose him. He'll be worth waiting for.

Sure did. That mark under pressure was a beauty. Even for a West/South ressie game.

No 1 haircut threw me.

 

[Crow-mo]

The lad is a South Aussie, probably one of the best in the last five years we have produced and all Rucci can do is have a dig at us.

i bloody well hope not. he went pick 13 in a fairly lowly regarded draft - if that makes him one of the best SA prospects in the last 5 years then we have falled a long, long way...

 

[Geoffa32]

i bloody well hope not. he went pick 13 in a fairly lowly regarded draft - if that makes him one of the best SA prospects in the last 5 years then we have falled a long, long way...

how many others have gone before him in last 5 years.

In my memory Gibbs Cooney???Shaun Burgoyne?

 

[Vader]

how many others have gone before him in last 5 years.

In my memory Gibbs Cooney???Shaun Burgoyne?

South Australians in top 20 of National Draft since 2000...

2000:
#3 Alan Didak
#8 Daniel Motlop
#10 Jordan McMahon
#11 Trent Sporn
#12 Shaun Burgoyne
#16 Scott Thompson
#20 Kane Cornes

2001:
Nil (first SA player #35 Jarrad Wright)

2002:
#7 Andrew Mackie
#12 Jay Schulz
#13 Byron Schammer
#14 Daniel Bell
#15 Nicholas Smith
#17 Cameron Faulkner
#20 Will Minson

2003:
#1 Adam Cooney
#11 Beau Waters
#16 Josh Willoughby
#20 Sam Butler

2004:
#3 Ryan Griffen
#9 Jordan Russell
#11 Adam Thomson
#12 Danny Myer
#14 Angus Monfries
#18 Cameron Wood

2005:
#13 Shannon Hurn
#15 Travis Varcoe
#17 Darren Pfeiffer

2006:
#1 Bryce Gibbs
#14 James Sellar

2007:
#13 Brad Ebert

So... 14 SA players taken earlier in the draft than Ebert since 2000. Not going to delve into this in any further detail because it's pretty meaningless.

 

[Geoffa32]

South Australians in top 20 of National Draft since 2000...

2000:
#3 Alan Didak
#8 Daniel Motlop
#10 Jordan McMahon
#11 Trent Sporn
#12 Shaun Burgoyne
#16 Scott Thompson
#20 Kane Cornes

2001:
Nil (first SA player #35 Jarrad Wright)

2002:
#7 Andrew Mackie
#12 Jay Schulz
#13 Byron Schammer
#14 Daniel Bell
#15 Nicholas Smith
#17 Cameron Faulkner
#20 Will Minson

2003:
#1 Adam Cooney
#11 Beau Waters
#16 Josh Willoughby
#20 Sam Butler

2004:
#3 Ryan Griffen
#9 Jordan Russell
#11 Adam Thomson
#12 Danny Myer
#14 Angus Monfries
#18 Cameron Wood

2005:
#13 Shannon Hurn
#15 Travis Varcoe
#17 Darren Pfeiffer

2006:
#1 Bryce Gibbs
#14 James Sellar

2007:
#13 Brad Ebert

So... 14 SA players taken earlier in the draft than Ebert since 2000. Not going to delve into this in any further detail because it's pretty meaningless.

Cheers

I was wrong

 

[Jakko]

Macca, is it true that Port Adelaide wouldn't have selected Ebert if he had been available for their first pick? Heard through various channels that they rated Lobbe ahead of him.

I am 99% sure that I have heard Williams say he was going to take Ebert if he was available.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Everyone constantly talks of the Ebert V Dangerfield selection ......but IMO there is an even bigger debate

Up until the the 11th hour Adelaide were the keenest and was very very close to selecting Rioli.

Rendell said words to the effect " that he was one of the most skilled indigenous players he had ever seen"

Now that's high praise ........and IMO he probably sabotaged his interviews with Adelaide so he could stay in Melbourne.

But he has shown in just a few NAB games and last week that HE WILL BE A STAR!.

So if Rendell recognised that and yet still preferred Dangerfield to Rioli ........then Iam very happy with his judgement call, and there is absolutely nothing I have seen in Dangerfield tapes that would suggest we haven't got a beauty.

So wrong debate ! ......should be Dangerfield over Rioli

 

[mymansyd]

It's way too early to tell how the draftees will turn out. It's ridiculous at this early stage to compare them, no one can say for certain if they're going to be an OK or gun player.

I'm sure Adelaide have a few examples too, but I know with WC, some of our high picks have turned out to be duds (McDougall pick #5 and Sampi pick #6) and some of our lower picks have turned out to be stars (Embley pick #57 and Kerr pick #18).

Until Dangerfield plays a game, Adelaide will cop this unfair criticism, especially if Ebert strings some good games together, but it'll all be forgotten if Dangerfield turns out to be a star.

Good luck on the weekend.

Exactly. You can't compare any player from the same draft, head-to-head, until some water has passed under the bridge (at least a couple of seasons, anyway).

This whole Dangerfield v. Ebert thing is a waste of everybody's energy. If the kids name was Bob Smith instead of Brad EBERT (SA football royalty) it would barely rate a mention.

Personally, good luck to Brad today. I hope he plays well, but we - of course - win the game.

 

[Mad Dog]

Exactly. You can't compare any player from the same draft, head-to-head, until some water has passed under the bridge (at least a couple of seasons, anyway).

This whole Dangerfield v. Ebert thing is a waste of everybody's energy. If the kids name was Bob Smith instead of Brad EBERT (SA football royalty) it would barely rate a mention.

Personally, good luck to Brad today. I hope he plays well, but we - of course - win the game.

good post......

Ebert Shmeebert...

unfair to make comparisons while Rodney isn't playing.

Comparisons like this give me the shizens.......the same suspects keep raising the same crap.

People haven't talked about anything but Wells v Carey for the last 5 years.....well seriously....hows that starting to work out ????.....Wells is turning out to be about as productive for North as Carey was for us......but at least Carey had the decency to retire and free up a spot on out list......

seriously - move on.......

 

[Embers]

Dont know why some of you are attacking Eagles and Ebert for. Rather pathetic from the one or two of you who did that.

From what i gathered Adelaide werent even close to picking Ebert with their first pick. From what I heard it was betwen Rioli Dangerfield and some bloke named Ward and you chose Dangerfield because hes a better clearance winner or something along those lines

IMO Ebert wouldnt be much use at Crows because you have 2 young wingmen in VB and Knights already. We needed a player like Ebert and we thank god every day a player like him slipped through cos he complements Masten very well. We got a clearance machine and a winger with silky skills. Makes up for us skipping Morton and Palmer really.

Im gonna say he gets 14 stats and 1 goal for his first game

 

[mymansyd]

From what i gathered Adelaide werent even close to picking Ebert with their first pick. From what I heard it was betwen Rioli Dangerfield and some bloke named Ward and you chose Dangerfield because hes a better clearance winner or something along those lines.

= Callan Ward (Western Jets), picked up by the Dogs at 19.