Eddie on Triple M

[Trav 20]

Best case scenario ? Scully stays.

Worst case scenario ? Scully goes and we get two first round draft picks plus Jack Viney in a draft considered by many to be the best in 10 years.

And to make it even better, opposition supporters will waste thousands of man hours tap tap tapping away bleating over our compensation. Priceless.

That said, I think he'll stay.

 

[Collingwould]

He is nothing more than a manipulative string puller and his position as host of a radio show is so biased it is ridiculous. He uses this platform to single handedly run the AFL, get his players out of trouble (which has happened on numerous occarions) and ensure his club is protected and treated like no other. Oh, and of course ensure the rest of the competition are treated like paupers compared to his Pies.

I can understand how it riles everyone else (no, I really can), but it's not going to change, he has a platform and will use it. Us Collingwood supporters won't be too upset because of what he's done for our club.

It's a competition, and Eddie is as competitive as the next bloke, so this is what he does.

 

[Smoky]

looks like they might be handing out a few First round picks 2 for Scully would mean 2 for Palmer then 3 for Ward then maybe with Eddies influence 4 for Thomas doesnt leave many

Everyones getting stuck into Eddie because he can see in black and white the ramifications for all other trades to GWS... Can't wait to hear all the same people cry "ripped off" when they get 1 round 3 draft pick for an AA because GWS has nothing left to trade... all because the AFL sell the farm on deals like the Scully one.

P.S:- Daisy isn't going anywhere. He wants to play in Premierships.

 

[Collingwould]

The AFL should have sorted this compo issue out BEFORE giving the new clubs all their concessions.

Straight up, Scully for two Round 1s looks over the odds when you assess against Ablett. But Scully is 10 years vs Ablett 5 at best. It is a qualitative argument and it shouldn't be because there is so much speculation in it.

AFL should have put some firm guidlelines in place.

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policy on the run as evident with what happened last year with Ablett

 

[doodlefeatures]

People listen to Eddie on MMM?

 

[Smoky]

Best case scenario ? Scully stays.

Worst case scenario ? Scully goes and we get two first round draft picks plus Jack Viney in a draft considered by many to be the best in 10 years.

And to make it even better, opposition supporters will waste thousands of man hours tap tap tapping away bleating over our compensation. Priceless.

That said, I think he'll stay.

Or worse case scenario... Scully goes... and you get less than what Geelong got for Ablett... and your coach gets a new 3 year contract

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Of course Scully is worth that much.

Instead of underselling Scully, you should consider how much time Ablett has left in the game in comparison, and then decide if Geelong were undercompensated.

Trengrove was suspended for 3 weeks for a sling tackle. Do we consider his suspension unjust or do we consider those that get less for a sling tackle lucky?

Everybody gets hung up on this mentality, 'fine you ripped us off, but as long as you rip everybody else off too, I will be fine with it.'

IMO, it is only by exposing the original poor judgments by showing up the inconsistencies, that change is effected.

If you disagree, don't say Scully is not worth two mid first rounders, say that Ablett was worth more.

Would anybody here trade Draft Pick No 1 this year, for Draft Picks 7 & 8? I wouldn't.

 

[stickman11]

People listen to Eddie on MMM?

Who is this Eddie bloke everyone is talking about?

Scully is a gun, has fifteen years ahead of him. I am pretty sure that the more GWS offer, the stronger the compensation becomes under the formula.

 

[kwame]

If you disagree, don't say Scully is not worth two mid first rounders, say that Ablett was worth more.

Would anybody here trade Draft Pick No 1 this year, for Draft Picks 7 & 8? I wouldn't.

thats the crux of the argument right there

 

[Slattery_20]

Eddie was pointing out that Melbourne's potential compensation isn't in line with Geelong's for Ablett

This is a competition, you really think Eddie is on his own here? I'm sure there's a line up behind him.

He, like Jeff at Hawthorn, are two who speak up about these sorts of things, I don't see an issue with Eddie speaking his mind about something that I think many people in the AFL community would agree with

Geelong just quietly raised their issues (ie the piss-weak initial compo package) directly with the actual AFL people and actually got it changed, too. There's no need for the grand sweeping "controversial" statements IMHO.

 

[Skids]

Everyone seems to lose sight of the actual topic and goes crazy blaming Eddie for everything right up to world poverty!

You mean he isn't? Are you sure? Because I've heard opinions that differ.

 

[vast]

Would anybody here trade Draft Pick No 1 this year, for Draft Picks 7 & 8? I wouldn't.

Fair point, but I think if you replaced the picks 7 & 8, with gary ablett you would have a lot of teams saying yes.

People are always gonna compare any future compensation to what geelong got for Gary. The afl has only itself to blame because it set the benchmark.

 

[The Finger]

What everyone would like to see Eddie do occasionaly is actually go into fight when it doesnt involve his club. Rather than remaining non commital on issues why not use his power to benefit all clubs.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Fair point, but I think if you replaced the picks 7 & 8, with gary ablett you would have a lot of teams saying yes.

People are always gonna compare any future compensation to what geelong got for Gary. The afl has only itself to blame because it set the benchmark.

Agreed. That is a more complex argument though. 12 years worth of likely high quality, potential elite quality vs 6 years of elite quality. The fact the Cats had 2 premierships from him to sooth their loss, also potentially enters the emotional side of the equation.

All this argument does though, is puts the spotlight on the compensation for Ablett, which most agree was not enough. The argument does not and should not undervalue Scully. All we do there is encourage the AFL to continue being unfair.

People do get hung up on quantity vs quality when it comes to first round draft picks.

 

[Cats Eye]

i'm interested in who the team was that finished top and yet had to travel to the lower ranked opponent's home ground? pretty sure that has never happened

on the topic, of course the afl isn't about being fair. they are about maximising revenue and increasing the salaries of those in high places at the afl. for a supposedly elite competition, the fact that the fixture is such a joke is hard to fathom. yet the afl don't seem to give 2 sh!ts about what is clearly the major problem in the game. we place such importance on playing finals in our game, yet the unequal draw and specifically who a team plays twice is a major determinative factor in whether teams make finals or don't. that is a disgraceful situation

and scully is not worth 2 1st round picks

It happens basically every year that Geelong makes the finals........ whooops, sorry............... (sweeps geelong back under the carpet).

 

[Mitchemx]

I would have thought that two first round picks in compensation for a number one draft pick of his abililty, with 10+ years of footy ahead of him was the very least they could do.

 

[HFF]

What everyone would like to see Eddie do occasionaly is actually go into fight when it doesnt involve his club. Rather than remaining non commital on issues why not use his power to benefit all clubs.

Last time I checked, he was president of the Collingwood Football Club- not president of the AFL.

This is why you have people like Jim Stynes as your chairman, so they can go in and fight for your club.

It is a competition my boy, not a charity.

 

[cobbly]

What everyone would like to see Eddie do occasionaly is actually go into fight when it doesnt involve his club. Rather than remaining non commital on issues why not use his power to benefit all clubs.

Are you kidding? Eddie does that all the time. People just refuse to see it, they just see some hidden agenda, that must be there, because eddie is such an arseh*le.

Like this somehow being about daisy, despite the fact that daisy isn't going anywhere.

No matter what eddie says, whether it is about collingwood or not, people will always criticise him because of who he is, not because of what he says.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

i'm interested in who the team was that finished top and yet had to travel to the lower ranked opponent's home ground? pretty sure that has never happened

Technically it has. Port in 2003 for example, were minor premiers and Pies second. Port lost their first final at home and ended up playing the Pies in Melbourne in a prelim. Of course, their rankings reversed within the finals due to Port's first up loss.

In fact, Port did the same thing in 2002 as well. Minor premiers, lost first final at home, ended up playing Brisbane at the Gabba in a prelim.

Adelaide did the same in 2005. West Coast in 2006 (although they won their prelim).

It only happens if the minor premier loses their first up final though, or when a non-Vic minor premier travels to the G for the GF against a Vic side.

Other than that, Adelaide and West Coast have travelled to Melbourne to play finals against lower ranked opponents due to the MCG finals agreement, but they did not finish top in those years.

Anyway, just clearing up. Back on topic.

 

[robertg22]

Another thread by The Finger having a crack at Collingwood... yawn.

 

[The Finger]

Last time I checked, he was president of the Collingwood Football Club- not president of the AFL.

This is why you have people like Jim Stynes as your chairman, so they can go in and fight for your club.

It is a competition my boy, not a charity.

Eddie has the power through his media work and contacts to have a great deal of influence on the AFL. Rather than wait untill one of his players gets suspended then go to town on the AFL act now. He has said often that Trengrove, Mumford and Kositske were wrongly suspended. Well how about before it happens to a Collingwood player take the AFL to task on it now.

 

[Ando727]

Eddie seems to be damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

If he tried just keeping his trap shut for a change, I doubt he'd be damned. Him commenting on anything football attracts criticism because he masquerades as a journalist but he has a massive conflict of interest. He throws his weight around whenever he can. It's a bit of a joke - he is president of the wealthiest and best performing club by a mile and he's concerned what a club like Melbourne are going to get. Can't he find better things to do?

 

[pies_this_year]

Eddie has the power through his media work and contacts to have a great deal of influence on the AFL. Rather than wait untill one of his players gets suspended then go to town on the AFL act now. He has said often that Trengrove, Mumford and Kositske were wrongly suspended. Well how about before it happens to a Collingwood player take the AFL to task on it now.

Just because you have a weak board doesn't mean we have to come in and save you minnows all the time. If it wasn't for Collingwood generously declaring Melbourne the home team EVERY QB you probably wouldn't have enough cash to afford Michael Newton never mind Scully.

Finger, you come across as a whinging little baby when it comes to Collingwood. Eddie doesn't give a stuff about Melbourne, just like most of the population. Fight your own fights you blouse.

 

[The Finger]

Just because you have a weak board doesn't mean we have to come in and save you minnows all the time. If it wasn't for Collingwood generously declaring Melbourne the home team EVERY QB you probably wouldn't have enough cash to afford Michael Newton never mind Scully.

Finger, you come across as a whinging little baby when it comes to Collingwood. Eddie doesn't give a stuff about Melbourne, just like most of the population. Fight your own fights you blouse.

How do you know we have a weak board? If Eddie had been a supporter of any other club than Collingwood and he became president while being in such a high profile position theyd be were Collingwood are now. Dont act like youve achieved anything that any other club wouldnt have. Eddie is the sole reason you are were you are dont forget it.

 

[grogan]

i'm interested in who the team was that finished top and yet had to travel to the lower ranked opponent's home ground? pretty sure that has never happened

Quite a few times. Any Etihad tenant that plays a lower melbourne team in the finals. Any time geelong plays a lower based melb team etc etc