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Rhys Contessa, Tim Fielding and Zack Carey - all Strathmore ex-Under 18's training with Pascoe Vale.

I trained with Timmy last Wednesday at Strathmore. He looked quite happy and fit. Excellent chance to be playing firsts this year in A grade.
Rhys has the same opportunity if he trains with us. Zacka needs to overcome injuries. What about you Danny Boy ? When are you going to make an appearance ? About 50 of us were at training. Not a bad turnout and about 12 of them were U18'S. Cheers Buddy....See you Monday:thumbsu:
 
Steve McKee kicked only 30 odd goals in 15 games for St Kevin's in A grade VAFA.

If your league is supposedly better, how will that return translate into 100 goals in '07?

He's no good and will battle but will kick a few bags against the bottom sides, but so he should if the ball comes in 80 times.

Can I also ask what type of nuff-nuffs go and watch suburban teams' pre-season training..?
 
With the new system introduced in 2006 the only hold you have on a player is with a contract. Not too easy to get out of. If a player is uncontracted he gets an automatic transfer to his new club.

The new Registrations and Transfers process instigated this past season by Football Victoria has very specific criteria. The above quote is only partially correct. The only time an automatic transfer is deemed approved is if the player is merely lodging his registration to play in his given League after not having played before or for two full seasons, which ever comes first.

Even with uncontracted players the new rules only govern Metropolitan Melbourne. Regional Vic players are still subject to the old FV Clearance form used up to 2005, which is implicit in that the responding club has 10 business days to respond to a clearance/transfer request as compared to the Metro Melbourne ruling of only 6 business days to respond. It's not a given that it is automatic, only if no response is forthcoming after the agreed time period.

Clubs must provide documentation and evidence as to why they may refuse a player, and the only three factors involved here are multi-year contracts, if you owe property (shorts, jumper etc) or money (ie. outstanding subscription fees), or are under disqualification from playing. In the case of contracts, the new system recognises that these are legally binding documents... but note that FV decrees now that all contracts expire on October 31 of the actual playing year, unless a mulit-year agreement (eg. 2 or 3 years) has been signed off on. Appeal applications will only be scheduled if the above criteria is not met.

If however, the responding club manages to talk the player into staying, the player himself must sign a "Refusal of Transfer" form for the above to be rescinded.

So just reiterating.. it is not a given that any transfer (of a non-contracted player) is automatic.
 
The new Registrations and Transfers process instigated this past season by Football Victoria has very specific criteria. The above quote is only partially correct. The only time an automatic transfer is deemed approved is if the player is merely lodging his registration to play in his given League after not having played before or for two full seasons, which ever comes first.

Even with uncontracted players the new rules only govern Metropolitan Melbourne. Regional Vic players are still subject to the old FV Clearance form used up to 2005, which is implicit in that the responding club has 10 business days to respond to a clearance/transfer request as compared to the Metro Melbourne ruling of only 6 business days to respond. It's not a given that it is automatic, only if no response is forthcoming after the agreed time period.

Clubs must provide documentation and evidence as to why they may refuse a player, and the only three factors involved here are multi-year contracts, if you owe property (shorts, jumper etc) or money (ie. outstanding subscription fees), or are under disqualification from playing. In the case of contracts, the new system recognises that these are legally binding documents... but note that FV decrees now that all contracts expire on October 31 of the actual playing year, unless a mulit-year agreement (eg. 2 or 3 years) has been signed off on. Appeal applications will only be scheduled if the above criteria is not met.

If however, the responding club manages to talk the player into staying, the player himself must sign a "Refusal of Transfer" form for the above to be rescinded. .

So just reiterating.. it is not a given that any transfer (of a non-contracted player) is automatic.

We were taliking about metro leagues, but yes a country league still requires a clearance. Otherwise unless a player has a contract for the coming season he can go to any metro club. No clearance required.
 

That is a big call about Abers making the top four.

You guys have obviously done well with your new recruits but you would probably need to be a 10 goal better side than last year and then maybe 5 more goals to make up the improvement last years top four are going to make this year.
How many goals did Loffy kick last year?
Do you see him as a big loss or has McKee got him covered?
 
That is a big call about Abers making the top four.

You guys have obviously done well with your new recruits but you would probably need to be a 10 goal better side than last year and then maybe 5 more goals to make up the improvement last years top four are going to make this year.
How many goals did Loffy kick last year?
Do you see him as a big loss or has McKee got him covered?

I'm assuming by Loffy you mean Loafy.

Loafy is a big loss but i see McKee as a more than capable replacement.

Loafy has the runs on the board however kicked many points last year.

McKee is a terrific shot for goal, has pace on the lead, can mark overhead and is very unbselfish.

I'm not saying Loafy isn't these things all i'm saying is that we're more than happy with the replacement in the forward 50m. Don't forget Keg will also take plenty of the forward 50 ruck contests.

Loaf kicked 81 goals last year.
 

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Mr Controversy is back

Hi all i have been away for a while now just been pretty busy lately. Massive news if henno goes to strathmore he will be an awesome inclusion. interesting to see my former team mate pato has gone to keilor. good luck mate if u can get yourself going im extremly confident you can have a very good season in the ones. now that my season is officially over for this year hopefully i can give u guys a few reviews of some matches through out the year.


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We were taliking about metro leagues, but yes a country league still requires a clearance. Otherwise unless a player has a contract for the coming season he can go to any metro club. No clearance required.

Aberdaberdo you obviously are making up your own rules as you go. Yes a player can go from one League to another but regardless of what you say above, a player coming from country to Metro still must lodge an application with his respective League. They then process the paperwork, it is faxed or emailed to the club the player wishes to transfer from, and the club has the right to refuse it based on the set criteria. If there are no reasons to stop the player after the six/ten day time frame (and nothing has been lodged), the receiving League will register the player after first obtaining and reviewing the player's tribunal history (if applicable). At this point a League can still refuse a registration permit if they feel it's warranted.

Once again... it is not automatic for any player to go from one league to another without the appropriate paperwork having been lodged. The actual forms are now called a Transfer/Registration application. The word "Clearance" now has very limited meaning under this new system.
 
Aberdaberdo you obviously are making up your own rules as you go. Yes a player can go from one League to another but regardless of what you say above, a player coming from country to Metro still must lodge an application with his respective League. They then process the paperwork, it is faxed or emailed to the club the player wishes to transfer from, and the club has the right to refuse it based on the set criteria. If there are no reasons to stop the player after the six/ten day time frame (and nothing has been lodged), the receiving League will register the player after first obtaining and reviewing the player's tribunal history (if applicable). At this point a League can still refuse a registration permit if they feel it's warranted.

Once again... it is not automatic for any player to go from one league to another without the appropriate paperwork having been lodged. The actual forms are now called a Transfer/Registration application. The word "Clearance" now has very limited meaning under this new system.

Mate we all know how the paperwork goes. You write alot without saying anything different. Of course you have to lodge the appropriate paperwork. I say again unless the player is contracted or owes the club money the club has no hold on him in metro leagues. He can fill in a rego form at his new club and is transfered automatically unless his home club has an objection (above are the only ones). The home club does not have to respond its automatic after the time limit.
 
Re: Mr Controversy is back

Hi all i have been away for a while now just been pretty busy lately. Massive news if henno goes to strathmore he will be an awesome inclusion. interesting to see my former team mate pato has gone to keilor. good luck mate if u can get yourself going im extremly confident you can have a very good season in the ones. now that my season is officially over for this year hopefully i can give u guys a few reviews of some matches through out the year.


Mr Controversy has spoken

Good mail on Pateman to Keilor. Will be borderline for ones game with all of Keilor's big recruits in 07
 
Re: Mr Controversy is back

I did hear over the weekend that Henneman will be playing for Keilor as well.

Have heard that Henneman has agreed to play with Silvan in 07 alongside Bullen and Haynes, however can't formally put pen to paper because of his pending involvement in the police force. You would think he wouldnt be available for too many games in 07 anyway...!

Definitely not in the EDFL....:thumbsu:
 
Re: Mr Controversy is back

Have heard that Henneman has agreed to play with Silvan in 07 alongside Bullen and Haynes, however can't formally put pen to paper because of his pending involvement in the police force. You would think he wouldnt be available for too many games in 07 anyway...!

Definitely not in the EDFL....:thumbsu:

Why wouldnt he be available for to many games? He is allowed to play footy while in the police academy and once he has graduated.

My sources tell me that Silvan are offering him a job as his paymenst for footy, so since his joining the police force I cant see him playing there, even though Bullen has been trying to lure him into the mountains. So this will leave who ever wants to bid the most for him and from what Ive been told be various people is that he will be lining up for Keilor Park under Dean Rioili. but he wont commit just yet until he gets back from Corowa this week.

Rumours about ex-afl players dropping back to local level is great and gives us something to talk about.
 
Mate we all know how the paperwork goes. You write alot without saying anything different. Of course you have to lodge the appropriate paperwork. I say again unless the player is contracted or owes the club money the club has no hold on him in metro leagues. He can fill in a rego form at his new club and is transfered automatically unless his home club has an objection (above are the only ones). The home club does not have to respond its automatic after the time limit.

And you say alot without making it clear which is why people feel the need the clarify. The fundamental flaw in your replies are simple. No one is ever automatically cleared. Ring your local League and check. The paperwork is there as a safeguard to both parties. You are right in that the transferring club does not have to reply and after the time period the trade is all done. We all agree on that. Let's just remember my sentiment from a previous post. In a nutshell the word "Clearance" is out. It's now a "Transfer" or "Registration" process.

However, not everyone knows how the paper work goes as you suggest, trust me. Even club Administrators wrestle with this very problem every season because the rules are so embryonic and forever changing. Football Victoria's Rules Committee adds and alters its rules whenever it chooses, forcing local Leagues to comply.

I do thank you though for at least highlighting this issue. I enjoy the feedback mate.
 
Re: Mr Controversy is back

Good mail on Pateman to Keilor. Will be borderline for ones game with all of Keilor's big recruits in 07

I would say no chance,

Guy needs to stock sucking his own C O c k,

yeh he has some talent, but thinks it all comes with out having to train, be a team player or work hard for rewards.

Another wasted year in the 2's is my tip
 
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