Emma Thompson on Global Warming

[Taylor]

If you think that the curent mass extinction underway is not catastrophic

Extinction is the natural state of life.

The punchline to global warming will be that we get on top of our emissions and even moderate them to roll with the solar cycle right as the massive disaster hits that human kind can't have any control over, like super volcanoes or extra terrestrial impact (asteroid, solar emission, extra-solar emission).

We give ourselves and the world's problems relevance to make our lives significant.

 

[not a warmonger]

Extinction is the natural state of life.

The punchline to global warming will be that we get on top of our emissions and even moderate them to roll with the solar cycle right as the massive disaster hits that human kind can't have any control over, like super volcanoes or extra terrestrial impact (asteroid, solar emission, extra-solar emission).

We give ourselves and the world's problems relevance to make our lives significant.

an apologist for the fossil fuel industry and champion of the BAU brigade

 

[Taylor]

an apologist for the fossil fuel industry and champion of the BAU brigade

I actually rise above all of this man made rubbish. I will live, eat, screw, sleep, laugh and cry and none of it matters on any realistic scale of the universe I live in.

Don't try and label me to make your own point of view more convenient.

 

[rodney hoo]

I'm guessing that you're not a brain surgeon.

No I am not, I'm not certain you be in that category either. To much common sense there for you, worlds got clean
up its act.

 

[not a warmonger]

I actually rise above all of this man made rubbish. I will live, eat, screw, sleep, laugh and cry and none of it matters on any realistic scale of the universe I live in.

Don't try and label me to make your own point of view more convenient.

WOW - a solipsist!!!!!

 

[not a warmonger]

I'm guessing that you're not a brain surgeon.

Lester wants to be free to pollute as much as he wants. A God given right

 

[Lester Burnham]

No I am not, I'm not certain you be in that category either. To much common sense there for you, worlds got clean
up its act.

Your post was bereft of common sense.

You didn't state which 'pollution' you are concerned about. Are you referring to carbon dioxide? The trace gas that is essential for all life on this planet. Or something else?

You said that certain people should ask themselves a few questions. Then failed to state what these questions were.

 

[rodney hoo]

Your post was bereft of common sense.

You didn't state which 'pollution' you are concerned about. Are you referring to carbon dioxide? The trace gas that is essential for all life on this planet. Or something else?

You said that certain people should ask themselves a few questions. Then failed to state what these questions were.

I'm not the expert but the point I'm making you wouldn't want your neighbors polluting your place so why the f..k are we polluting the atmosphere. I feel sorry for all you people that only think about yourselves and not future generations.

 

[apparentlydead]

Your post was bereft of common sense.

haha...

Yet, when approached with this common sense, you conveniently ignore it.

And I'm guessing that you're not a climate scientist.

That, however, doesn't stop you proclaiming to know more than people who are.

You're an ideological coward cancat, and you always have been.

 

[medusala]

And it just gets worse for the kool aid drinkers. Climate scientists coining it in. They are massively incentivised to claim the world is ending. Grubby stuff indeed.

http://www.thegwpf.org/matt-ridley-the-climate-wars-and-the-damage-to-science/

Recently 20 senior climate scientists wrote to President Obama and his attorney general to support a senator’s call that the administration mount a ‘RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) investigation of corporations and other organizations that have knowingly deceived the American people about the risks of climate change, as a means to forestall America’s response to climate change’.

Remarkably, Dr Roger Pielke Jr, professor of environmental studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado, then discovered that the lead signatory of the letter from the 20 scientists, Professor Jagadish Shukla of George Mason University, has been paying himself and his wife $1.5 million a year, via his ‘non-profit’ Institute of Global Environment & Society Inc. of which he is President and CEO. The money came entirely from public grants and was on top of his $250,000 university salary. Two of his daughters were also on the institute’s payroll. Is it any wonder that he very much does not want anybody to conclude that climate change is not a crisis? Is it any wonder he wants sceptics silenced by prosecution? And is it possible that the huge flow of money he receives has incentivised him to (in his own words) ‘knowingly deceive the American people about the risks of climate change’ in the other direction?


After all, the climate worriers have largely won the policy argument: most of the world’s governments pay lucrative lip service to the need to do something about climate change: subsidizing renewable energy, encouraging low-carbon fuels and taxing high-carbon ones, while preaching at their populations. Dr Shukla and others who worry about climate change receive about $31 billion a year from the US federal government; their sceptical opponents receive almost nothing.

 

[apparentlydead]

And it just gets worse for the kool aid drinkers. Climate scientists coining it in. They are massively incentivised to claim the world is ending. Grubby stuff indeed.

http://www.thegwpf.org/matt-ridley-the-climate-wars-and-the-damage-to-science/

Recently 20 senior climate scientists wrote to President Obama and his attorney general to support a senator’s call that the administration mount a ‘RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) investigation of corporations and other organizations that have knowingly deceived the American people about the risks of climate change, as a means to forestall America’s response to climate change’.

Remarkably, Dr Roger Pielke Jr, professor of environmental studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado, then discovered that the lead signatory of the letter from the 20 scientists, Professor Jagadish Shukla of George Mason University, has been paying himself and his wife $1.5 million a year, via his ‘non-profit’ Institute of Global Environment & Society Inc. of which he is President and CEO. The money came entirely from public grants and was on top of his $250,000 university salary. Two of his daughters were also on the institute’s payroll. Is it any wonder that he very much does not want anybody to conclude that climate change is not a crisis? Is it any wonder he wants sceptics silenced by prosecution? And is it possible that the huge flow of money he receives has incentivised him to (in his own words) ‘knowingly deceive the American people about the risks of climate change’ in the other direction?


After all, the climate worriers have largely won the policy argument: most of the world’s governments pay lucrative lip service to the need to do something about climate change: subsidizing renewable energy, encouraging low-carbon fuels and taxing high-carbon ones, while preaching at their populations. Dr Shukla and others who worry about climate change receive about $31 billion a year from the US federal government; their sceptical opponents receive almost nothing.

You really want to take this angle after the innumerable amount of denial studies which have been discredited because of their funding/indisputable links to fossil fuel companies?

Seriously?

 

[not a warmonger]

And it just gets worse for the kool aid drinkers. Climate scientists coining it in. They are massively incentivised to claim the world is ending. Grubby stuff indeed.

http://www.thegwpf.org/matt-ridley-the-climate-wars-and-the-damage-to-science/

Recently 20 senior climate scientists wrote to President Obama and his attorney general to support a senator’s call that the administration mount a ‘RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) investigation of corporations and other organizations that have knowingly deceived the American people about the risks of climate change, as a means to forestall America’s response to climate change’.

Remarkably, Dr Roger Pielke Jr, professor of environmental studies at the Center for Science and Technology Policy Research at the University of Colorado, then discovered that the lead signatory of the letter from the 20 scientists, Professor Jagadish Shukla of George Mason University, has been paying himself and his wife $1.5 million a year, via his ‘non-profit’ Institute of Global Environment & Society Inc. of which he is President and CEO. The money came entirely from public grants and was on top of his $250,000 university salary. Two of his daughters were also on the institute’s payroll. Is it any wonder that he very much does not want anybody to conclude that climate change is not a crisis? Is it any wonder he wants sceptics silenced by prosecution? And is it possible that the huge flow of money he receives has incentivised him to (in his own words) ‘knowingly deceive the American people about the risks of climate change’ in the other direction?


After all, the climate worriers have largely won the policy argument: most of the world’s governments pay lucrative lip service to the need to do something about climate change: subsidizing renewable energy, encouraging low-carbon fuels and taxing high-carbon ones, while preaching at their populations. Dr Shukla and others who worry about climate change receive about $31 billion a year from the US federal government; their sceptical opponents receive almost nothing.

Pielke Jr, ridley - the big guns come out!

 

[Ripper]

You really want to take this angle after the innumerable amount of denial studies which have been discredited because of their funding/indisputable links to fossil fuel companies?

Seriously?

Fossil fuel companies have been funding the scare.

 

[apparentlydead]

Fossil fuel companies have been funding the scare.

You're better than this

 

[Grin]

And it just gets worse for the kool aid drinkers. Climate scientists coining it in. They are massively incentivised to claim the world is ending. Grubby stuff indeed.

Anti science loonies of the far left claim much the same about vaccinations.

The sensible sane amongst us will stick to the opinion of credible experts and the scientific consensus.

 

[medusala]

You really want to take this angle after the innumerable amount of denial studies which have been discredited because of their funding/indisputable links to fossil fuel companies?

Seriously?

Which studies?

You do realise Gazprom are funding numerous environmental bodies don't you? You do realise that nat gas, uranium, renewables etc are all in favour of the scare campaign don't you?

You do realise that Goldmans, BCA etc are in favour of the scare campaign due to $?

Yes? Or has that all passed you by?

Fossil fuel companies have been funding the scare.

Yes, this. Its hardly a secret.

 

[Ripper]

You're better than this

You are , I think, Here is some more reading for you cause I hate to think that you are being having a lend of.

You really should look for what the ABC won't tell you.

Mike
Aeree asked me to clarify the reporting to Shell - I think she was
reluctant to speak on my behalf when asked who was responsible.
The answer is that the PIs are obliged to report back to Shell and this
will occur through a brief precis of the thesis, seminar, individual
discussions etc. If Aeree is still around after completing her thesis then
she will be involved, but we can't commit her to this.
I should also clarify another point. There seems to be some misinformation
around about this issue.
The report back etc will be to Shell International in London and not Shell
Solar in Holland or South Africa. This is a critical point as there are
numerous sensitivities here. To over-simplify somewhat - Shell
International are interested in generic conclusions regarding the
viability of CDM (and we should have some very useful information for
them). Shell Solar do not want anyone 'interfering' with their set-up in
South Africa (so we have to be a little circumspect in regard to the
specifics of that situation). That's in strictest confidence!
Regards
Mick

 

[medusala]

Anti science loonies of the far left claim much the same about vaccinations.

The sensible sane amongst us will stick to the opinion of credible experts and the scientific consensus.

You keep banging on about vaccinations. Why? You don't even grasp the consensus argument. There is NO consensus re 2-4c. There is only consensus of the greenhouse gas argument.

FFS, you don't even know what you are arguing about. Just another pavlovian cheerleader.

 

[Ripper]

Anti science loonies of the far left claim much the same about vaccinations.

The sensible sane amongst us will stick to the opinion of credible experts and the scientific consensus.

Look ! A unicorn!

 

[apparentlydead]

You are , I think, Here is some more reading for you cause I hate to think that you are being having a lend of.

You really should look for what the ABC won't tell you.

Too much respect to argue with you.

Happy to leave it at that and agree to disagree.

 

[Ripper]

Too much respect to argue with you.

Happy to leave it at that and agree to disagree.

Fair enough! Here is a bit more

 

[not a warmonger]

Fair enough! Here is a bit more

Yeap - just talk talk talk. No action.

 

[Ripper]

Yeap - just talk talk talk. No action.

Please explain

 

[not a warmonger]

Please explain

the appearance that something is being done to address agw when in reality its all about maintaing the bau model.

 

[Ripper]

the appearance that something is being done to address agw when in reality its all about maintaining the bau model.

The reality is that it is all about promoting the CAP and Trade model (ETS which was conceived by ENRON BTW) which is why people like Lomberg are ostracized.

The thing I find hard to accept that it is predominately the left that are all for this, even though if all the money spent trying to prove this up could have provided reticulated electricity and water to all of the third world, where the IBUKU satellite showed most of the net CO2 emissions coming from.