Test England vs West Indies - 3 tests

[PhatBoy]

I've watched enough test cricket to know that Holder's batting has dropped off a cliff and Da Silva looks the better batsman now.

I will admit I only watch the West Indies when they play NZ or Aus or England as they are shown on Kayo at a suitable time.

I don't stay up all night trying to watch a dodgy stream when the West Indies are playing a home test series against Sri Lanka.

So you’ve watched enough to know that 4 tests ago he came in behind Da Silva who was part of a higher order that failed against Rabada and Co at the Wanderers and he smacked 81* off 118 balls. As shown on Kayo. It was only last year. Oddly enough that innings - at 8 - was the only run of more than 4 consecutive innings I can find since 2018 where he’s been at the same position.

He’s a genuine all rounder. How about, as a player with 3 centuries, 12 half centuries, most of a 60-match career with an average over 30, they just bat him where the all rounder is supposed to bat. Would make a whole lot more sense. If JDS plays like this, and like he did in Brisbane, all the time, by all means, move him. But he doesn’t. He’s passed 50 4 times in 25 tests before this one. He’s passed 50 3 times in 23 tests before Brisbane.

 

[Plugger35]

So you’ve watched enough to know that 4 tests ago he came in behind Da Silva who was part of a higher order that failed against Rabada and Co at the Wanderers and he smacked 81* off 118 balls. As shown on Kayo. It was only last year. Oddly enough that innings - at 8 - was the only run of more than 4 consecutive innings I can find since 2018 where he’s been at the same position.

He’s a genuine all rounder. How about, as a player with 3 centuries, 12 half centuries, most of a 60-match career with an average over 30, they just bat him where the all rounder is supposed to bat. Would make a whole lot more sense. If JDS plays like this, and like he did in Brisbane, all the time, by all means, move him. But he doesn’t. He’s passed 50 4 times in 25 tests before this one. He’s passed 50 3 times in 23 tests before Brisbane.

More boring garbage trying to take a cheap shot at me.

I'm trying to watch this test match, are you really a West Indies supporter?

You have mentioned nothing about this test despite the West Indies doing so well.

 

[PhatBoy]

More boring garbage trying to take a cheap shot at me.

I'm trying to watch this test match, are you really a West Indies supporter?

You have mentioned nothing about this test despite the West Indies doing so well.

Don’t play the victim mate I’m not taking a cheap shot at anyone.

Im pointing out to you the silly logic behind suggesting that they bat an inferior batsman above a superior one. As part of that I asked if you actually watch the players in question beyond the odd occasion, and pointed out some pretty basic numbers. I’m not questioning your parentage or something here mate it’s a pretty straightforward discussion.

I’ve made three posts. One was related to England’s tactics and I actually did discuss the game: the three ball changes, the swing they got, how many times (specifically) Wood beat the bat, how the Windies dug in etc. I also suggested that although the pitch is flat and it helps England’s tactics with the bat, ultimately it doesn’t really do much for them because their bowling is suspect.

Nothing really wrong with that comment is there?

Then I responded to your post about Holder’s batting position and pointed out that his record, not to mention his technique, is miles better than Da Silva’s.

Sorry mate, but I’m not seeing the issue here.

 

[BrownYouGun]

DRS review took far too long, must’ve been nearly 5 minutes to get it up…

Also Duckett reviewing was beyond ridiculous, hit him on the top directly in front of middle stump

Root and Brook in, 3 down 99 runs ahead, big 45 minutes

 

[Plugger35]

Don’t play the victim mate I’m not taking a cheap shot at anyone.

Im pointing out to you the silly logic behind suggesting that they bat an inferior batsman above a superior one. As part of that I asked if you actually watch the players in question beyond the odd occasion, and pointed out some pretty basic numbers. I’m not questioning your parentage or something here mate it’s a pretty straightforward discussion.

I’ve made three posts. One was related to England’s tactics and I actually did discuss the game: the three ball changes, the swing they got, how many times (specifically) Wood beat the bat, how the Windies dug in etc. I also suggested that although the pitch is flat and it helps England’s tactics with the bat, ultimately it doesn’t really do much for them because their bowling is suspect.

Nothing really wrong with that comment is there?

Then I responded to your post about Holder’s batting position and pointed out that his record, not to mention his technique, is miles better than Da Silva’s.

Sorry mate, but I’m not seeing the issue here.

All good mate, let's agree to disagree on the Holder v Da Silva argument of who should be batting higher than the other.

We are supporting the same team in this test, hopefully the Windies can stay in this game by keeping the lead below 350.

 

[ioppolo]

Looking less likely now...Windies will want a succession of wickets soon.

 

[Plugger35]

The Windies need a wicket badly.

A shame Motie chucked a sickie for this test, Sinclair is an OK spinner and can do a great backflip but he isn't as good as Motie.

 

[Plugger35]

Seales gets the badly needed wicket with Brook fishing at a wide one.

 

[Plugger35]

Stokes unlucky again.

 

[Plugger35]

Sinclair strikes to get Smith just before lunch, no backflip though.

 

[Plugger35]

Sky's cricket coverage is better than Fox or Ch7's cricket coverage.

They play better tunes too.

 

[Plugger35]

Root throwing his wicket away trying to play a crazy cover drive rather than another textbook reverse ramp.

What has happened to good old fashioned test match batting? It's a dying artform.

 

[BrownYouGun]

Seales fuming as two drops in two balls, but then does the business himself top of off

 

[Plugger35]

England declare for 425 at tea, the Windies need 385 to win.

A tough ask but hopefully they can have a decent crack at it.

 

[Bedi]

Positive start

 

[Plugger35]

A good start from Brathwaite and Louis, they are looking like the new Greenidge and Haynes.

 

[Plugger35]

I jinxed them, Louis edging one off Woakes and he has to depart.

 

[Plugger35]

McKenzie should be filthy with himself, that was a terrible ball from Bashir but he still managed to get out to it.

 

[Plugger35]

Woakes strikes again to remove Brathwaite.

Then Bashir strikes again to remove Hodge, it's a calypso collapse.

Hopefully Holder can hold the fort.

 

[BrownYouGun]

Absolute floodgates now, didn’t expect Windies to get near it but this is a proper collapse now

 

[Plugger35]

Bashir removing Athanaze as well, the Windies batsmen are falling like dominoes.

Sinclair being sent in ahead of Da Silva is strange, is PhatBoy coaching them now.

 

[Plugger35]

Sinclair blasted out by Wood bowling heat seeking missiles.

Da Silva to the rescue.

 

[Plugger35]

Looks like this will be all over tonight, the Windies 9 wickets down now.

They are making Bashir look like Murali, he just needs one more wicket to take a 5'fer.

 

[Plugger35]

All over, Bashir taking the last wicket to get his 5'fer, a disappointing collapse from the Windies after a good opening stand.

A better performance from them though than the first test, hopefully they can raise their performance again for the last test.

 

[corbies]