Player Watch Esava Ratugolea

[port_adelaide_1870]

Port have started shopping pick 25 and clubs are interested.

Port must be confident that we will get Sav at a later pick,

 

[Malibu#27]

Port have started shopping pick 25 and clubs are interested.

What’s the context to this ?

To assist one of our trades ?

On the surface trading it out hurts the threat to get Esava in the draft.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

Pick 25 and Freo F2 to Rich for Soldo and P29.

29 draft Esava.

GC hold 27 and 28 so they will be used matching, Carlton have 26 who won’t be interest in Esava.

No further risk in moving a couple spots back and get both Soldo and Esava.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

What’s the context to this ?

To assist one of our trades ?

On the surface trading it out hurts the threat to get Esava in the draft.

That's as much as was said. Lights a fire under Geelong to get the deal done before the pick disappears.

 

[Jonts]

Pick 25 and Freo F2 to Rich for Soldo and P29.

29 draft Esava.

GC hold 27 and 28 so they will be used matching, Carlton have 26 who won’t be interest in Esava.

No further risk in moving a couple spots back and get both Soldo and Esava.

No ****ing way is Soldo worth a 2nd rounder

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

No ******* way is Soldo worth a 2nd rounder

Probably not but given he’s contracted, if we are in fact trying to pull him over we would have to give one unfortunately. We’re not getting him for a third and can’t see Duursma changing his request either.

 

[Coobk001]

The more I think about it, the more taking him with pick 25 seems like a win all round.

1. It's what we're spending anyway
2. Geelong get nothing
3. It counts as one of our 3 draft list changes, so one less end of draft likely list clogger.
4. It'll set a good precedent for future years - our nice guys at the trade table reputation is hurting us.

Best of all, it's Geelong who has come across unreasonable. There'll be some media backlash, but I think we'll get some positivity out of it too.

3 is a good point. Would be a win for us to decrease the number of deep draft picks we take this year.

In fact it might actually have the side effect of increasing Fantasias chances of one more year.

 

[Coobk001]

Happy with the draft but Im still annoyed that 24 was offered and that we haven't formally taken it off the table yet. Use it for Soldo and offer the Cats 38 already.

Problem is, we don't take it off the table because that sort of petulance turns off future recruits. Esava wouldn't have nominated us without us giving a commitment we will put our best and fairest offer on the table. Taking it off reflects on us a bit. Of course the concept is totally valid, **** Geelong, but still for Esavas sake we need to stay the course with what is a totally fair and actually overs offer.

 

[Revan11]

Problem is, we don't take it off the table because that sort of petulance turns off future recruits. Esava wouldn't have nominated us without us giving a commitment we will put our best and fairest offer on the table. Taking it off reflects on us a bit. Of course the concept is totally valid, * Geelong, but still for Esavas sake we need to stay the course with what is a totally fair and actually overs offer.

Geelong is the only club Esava should have any angst towards

 

[Incarnate]

Geelong is the only club Esava should have any angst towards

You are right but relationships are started on reputations and reputations are built on actions. If we headhunt an employee and they commit then we should honour that respective of gain over opponent. By walking him to favourable terms is already a yuck foo to the cattery.

 

[davesnothere]

No ******* way is Soldo worth a 2nd rounder

He's under contract and it ****s Geelong over.

Get it done

 

[davesnothere]

Problem is, we don't take it off the table because that sort of petulance turns off future recruits. Esava wouldn't have nominated us without us giving a commitment we will put our best and fairest offer on the table. Taking it off reflects on us a bit. Of course the concept is totally valid, * Geelong, but still for Esavas sake we need to stay the course with what is a totally fair and actually overs offer.

We are offering overs.
We have honoured our commitment to Ratugolea.
Outside of offering Butters there is no more we can do.
This is entirely on Geelong and we will walk Ratugolea to any pick we like.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

Pick 25 and Freo F2 to Rich for Soldo and P29.

29 draft Esava.

GC hold 27 and 28 so they will be used matching, Carlton have 26 who won’t be interest in Esava.

No further risk in moving a couple spots back and get both Soldo and Esava.

With live pick trading another team could trade up to 27 or 28. So if Esava is still available then and a team missed an earlier player they could get him before us. It's all a risky play.

 

[n4nirvana]

"Right now we haven't been able to break the impasse with Geelong, and we have 36 hours to make it happen." - Chris Davies on Esava Ratugolea

27

Esava Ratugolea

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.2

4star

MG

131.6

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

109.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

133.8

3star

That's a pretty passive way of saying we will be trying to bend over

Should have said "We have presented a fair and reasonable trade to Geelong and we are waiting for Geelong to come to the table"

 

[Del165198]

Who gives a shit really

The club is in an utterly stale situation and we know that there's no way out until we have change at the top.

Recruiting some B graders will make **** all difference. Might as well try to pick a diamond in the rough from the draft.

 

[TazD]

"Right now we haven't been able to break the impasse with Geelong, and we have 36 hours to make it happen." - Chris Davies on Esava Ratugolea

That's a pretty passive way of saying we will be trying to bend over

Should have said "We have presented a fair and reasonable trade to Geelong and we are waiting for Geelong to come to the table"

Sounds like he was trying to throw Cripps under the bus

 

[Gryllis]

That's a disappointing comment from CD. But hopefully it's just him trying to take the high road publicly.

Surely to Geelong we've said a fair offer has been made. It's up to you now.

 

[n4nirvana]

"It isn't really about relationships, it is about striking a deal, weather you like each other or not. We are hopeful a deal will be struck soon." - Chris Davies on their discussions with Geelong

 

[Jonts]

Listening to the interview it seems like he is talking to Esava and his manager that theyre trying their best rather than anything else

 

[GoPorts]

"Right now we haven't been able to break the impasse with Geelong, and we have 36 hours to make it happen." - Chris Davies on Esava Ratugolea

That's a pretty passive way of saying we will be trying to bend over

Should have said "We have presented a fair and reasonable trade to Geelong and we are waiting for Geelong to come to the table"

We've worked hardery, now we need to work longery
It's what our Devine leader would want us to do

 

[Schulzenfest]

That's a disappointing comment from CD. But hopefully it's just him trying to take the high road publicly.

Surely to Geelong we've said a fair offer has been made. It's up to you now.

There's nothing 'sure' about that whatsoever. Why do people keep giving these ****ing losers the benefit of the doubt? Remember when we surely wouldn't be giving up our future first rounder?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

There's nothing more Davies need say when he knows all media commentators have said Port's offer is more than reasonable.

 

[Coobk001]

"Right now we haven't been able to break the impasse with Geelong, and we have 36 hours to make it happen." - Chris Davies on Esava Ratugolea

That's a pretty passive way of saying we will be trying to bend over

Should have said "We have presented a fair and reasonable trade to Geelong and we are waiting for Geelong to come to the table"

CD is alive!!!

 

[Jonts]

There's nothing 'sure' about that whatsoever. Why do people keep giving these ****ing losers the benefit of the doubt? Remember when we surely wouldn't be giving up our future first rounder?

So far we havent either
Unless we trade both the Freo F2 and pick 25

We still have the $100 note
Just in the form of 2 fiftys instead

 

[Schulzenfest]

There's nothing more Davies need say when he knows all media commentators have said Port's offer is more than reasonable.

Then that's exactly the message that he should be emphasising. What he actually said is 'just keep holding out Geelong, it's our responsibility to get this done, and you'll extract a little bit more out of us if you just sit there and wait'. Pissweak.

We're at the point where the stakes here are much higher than just what we give up for Ratugolea. If we fold on him, expect every other club we're trying to get players out of in future to take the exact same strategy against us. Why wouldn't they when it works? We'll never get a player for less than overs again, or at least not until we **** Davies off.