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Gryllis said:
Being seen as fair and reasonable to deal with doesn't seem to have any benefits. No harm in being seen as being difficult by going to the draft - we just need to actually do it.

I think things will move on fairly quickly if we do it for 1 player. If we do it successfully for both, they'll be talking about it on trade radio for years for every Port target.
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I'll quote you for this question and anyone to answer.

How has everyone been trading with North Melbourne since they made Ben Jacobs go to the draft? Good? Bad? NO bad rep in my eyes.

There are a few thinks that happen in these circumstances.

1. The club wanting the player must use the pick they had offered anyway.

2. The club losing the player gets no compensation for lost player.

3. The club wanting the player who is uncontracted doesn't get bullshitted around for a week for a few years.
 

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pastmyprimus said:
If Esava walks into the draft Port may or may not pick him up (but we retain our pick). But one thing's for certain if that happens - Geelong get nothing. That's an emotional decision by Geelong not a rational one. Scott might think he can convince Esava to stay but after more than one year of trying the chances are pretty much zero.

I think this is still dragging on for the theatre of the last day of trading
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Great points you make here Geelong lose whatever negative deceptive scheme they cook up. They also lose in the integrity and fairness take also.
Keep the screws down on these disgraceful thugs and make them bleed for their charades. Football is won off the field before it is won on the field.
 

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Geelong will take a half eaten sandwich + 25 if it means they got more out of the deal.
 
Capital Power said:
I don't understand why anyone thinks this guy is worth 25, let alone more than 25 ...
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Yep. Honestly we could probably take him with 41 or later on draft night if we wanted to. No one is jumping in. I can't remember any club intercepting a player that has gone to the draft. Particularly when the club wasn't being unreasonable. Every other club would accept 25 is way more than fair, and I'm convinced in the spirit of good will would let him through to that pick. Meanwhile Geelong get nothing, for no reason other than being insanely and totally unjustifiably stubborn.
 
Ford Fairlane said:
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What's there to work on? Honestly it should be 25 going to the Cats and maybe a future 4th coming back our way if anything. If we chuck in more it'll be disappointing.


Gotta say, one of the worst things we do in trade period is be fair with our first offers. Year after year we do it. We come in at fair, the opposition come in at extreme expectations, and then we end up over paying. Dixon for 10+ change when 10 was enough and our first offer. Ryder for 17+37, when 17 alone was enough and our first offer.

It's time to start entering these negotiations as our opposition does. We should've walked into the first Cats meeting telling them we'd give them pick 48 for Esava, or we walk him to the draft.
 
"The Power have offered pick 25 for Ratugolea, but the Cats are set to explore an extra pick or pick swap sweetener which could help improve their return for the key defender.
There is also the possibility a third club could get involved to help satisfy Port and Geelong in a player or pick exchange, similar to the three-club deal which found Tom Mitchell and Ollie Henry new homes last year in the final hour of trade period."


Seriously, we better not be coughing up more
 

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