Phantom Draft eth-dog's 2023 Phantom Draft

[eth-dog]

As always I'll be the first mug of the board to submit a phantom. Most of my stuff is based on where I see each list is at and the works of the likes of PMBangers and Chris25. I'm planning on doing a four round phantom, likely to fill every pick. It will be a "true" phantom draft where I match bids and teams lose the draft picks behind them. I will no longer be attempting to predict live trades as that is always a disaster. This will turn into the first round at some point tonight, and I will do four rounds cos Port don't get in until then.

First Round

Pick 1. West Coast: Harley Reid (Bendigo Pioneers, 187 cm/85 kg, Midfielder/Forward). Reid is comfortably the best player of this draft and quite frankly the way he's been hyped he needs to win 4 Brownlow's, 3 Norm Smith's and a couple of Coleman Medals to live up to the hype.
Others considered: None.

Pick 2. Gold Coast: Jed Walter (Palm Beach Currumbin, 194/97, Key Forward). 2013.6 points needed to match. Gold Coast use picks 24 (785), 26 (729) and 27 (703) to match and get a 203.4 point surplus to use. This is a no brainer to bid and a no brainer to match, Walter is a potential star forward to pair with Ben King

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Ben King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.5

4star

T

0.5

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

6.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

if they manage to retain him next year.
Others considered: None

Pick 3. North Melbourne: Colby McKercher (Tasmania, 180/76, Outside Midfielder). McKercher has drawn many comparisons to Sydney's Errol Gulden this year with his diminutive side and laser kicking on the outside, which is something that North lack a lot of in their midfield.
Others considered: Zane Duursma, Daniel Curtin, Nick Watson.

Pick 4. North Melbourne: Zane Duursma (Gippsland Power, 189/79, F/M). Duursma is a match winner with explosiveness and skills, and has played mostly forward to date. He has a great amount of X-Factor and will definitely add something to North's forward line in 2024.
Others considered: Daniel Curtin, Nick Watson.

Pick 5. Hawthorn: Daniel Curtin (Claremont, 197/95, Key Defender/Forward). Curtin can play at either end of the field but has mostly played in defence for WA. The Hawks would be stoked that he's available here, they can lock away him and Will McCabe in the same draft.
Others considered: Nick Watson

Pick 6. Western Bulldogs: Nick Watson (Eastern Ranges, 170/69, Small Forward). Watson is by far the classiest small forward of this draft class and his pressure is also excellent. He's exactly the player the Dogs need to add to their forward half, expect him to start round 1 next year if they end up taking him.
Others considered: Ryley Sanders

Pick 7. Gold Coast: Ethan Read (PBC, 202/92, Key Defender/Ruck). 1315.2 points to match, Gold Coast match with picks 30 (629), 34 (542) and 36 (502) and their surplus moves to 561.2 points. Read can play both defence and ruck, and will get a chance to develop in the VFL for a while as either Ned Moyle's partner or in defence. Should be a very good player.
Others considered: None

Pick 8. Melbourne: Connor O'Sullivan (Murray Bushrangers, 198/92, Key Utility). O'Sullivan is a very good key defender who has also shown a little bit forward. He's tall, athletic and the smart pick for Melbourne to develop their key position players for the next couple of years.
Others considered: Ryley Sanders, Nate Caddy

Pick 9. Greater Western Sydney: Nate Caddy (Northern Knights, 193/88, KF). Where are the major holes on the Giants list? I don't really see many so I went with the player I think is best available at this pick in Caddy. He's a strong mark, and a nice set shot from what I've seen too.
Others considered: Ryley Sanders

Pick 10. Western Bulldogs: Jordan Croft (Calder Cannons, 200/81, KF). 1116 points to match. Western Bulldogs match with picks 44 (362), 46 (331), 48 (302) and 49 (287) and go into a 166 point surplus. The Dogs get their father son and also get their man, that's the reason they traded up. Croft is an athletic key forward who is on the fringe of the top 10 and Geelong lack key forwards for the future, hence the bid.
Others considered: None

Pick 11. Geelong: Ryley Sanders (Sandringham Dragons, 185/86, Inside Midfielder). Probably the best "pure" inside midfielder of the draft, can't see Geelong passing up the Tasmanian here as he's a very Geelong pick in that he does everything to a very good standard without being elite at anything.
Others considered: Darcy Wilson, James Leake

Pick 12. Essendon: Darcy Wilson (MB, 186/74, M/F). An aerobic beast that can impact forward, Wilson slots in at Essendon and can develop with Tsatas on the inside at VFL level easily, really the best available here. I can see Essendon using this pick to trade further back in the draft and also add to their hand for next year.
Others considered: James Leake, Caleb Windsor

Pick 13. Gold Coast: Jake Rogers (PBC, 170/68, M/F). 969.6 points needed to match. Gold Coast match with picks 59 (158), 64 (101), 67 (69) and the rest of their surplus, take an 80.4 deficit into 2024. At this point Gold Coast definitely would have traded in more points but that's the way it is right now. Rogers is a smart and hard working forward/mid, they'll match very quickly and be happy with this.
Others considered: None

Pick 14. Adelaide: Caleb Windsor (ER, 184/76, IM). When you look at Adelaide's list there's really only one major weakness, their midfield. Windsor helps fill their needs for a young inside mid and will help them advance into finals next year for me.
Others considered: James Leake, Ollie Murphy, Harry DeMattia

Pick 15. Melbourne: Ollie Murphy (SD, 200/85, KD). Settling two young key defenders together would be far too tempting for the Demons on night 1 of the draft, they can develop in the VFL for a couple of years and learn off the likes of May and Lever and become a star combination.
Others considered: James Leake, Harry DeMattia, Riley Hardeman

Pick 16. Sydney: James Leake (Tas, 187/77, Utility). The most Sydney pick ever, Leake can play all over the ground but I think he'll settle off half back as a medium defender who can run and carry.
Others considered: Riley Hardeman

Pick 17. St. Kilda: Harry DeMattia (Dandenong Stingrays, 185/78, Uti). Another medium who can play anywhere, I see DeMattia settling in the middle which looks like St Kilda's major weakness heading forward for me.
Others considered: Riley Hardeman, Koltyn Tholstrup

Pick 18. Hawthorn: Will McCabe (Central Districts, 197/86, KD). 788 points to match. Hawthorn match with picks 42 (395), 45 (347) and 46 (331) and go into a 285 point surplus. McCabe is a good defender and will pair nicely with Curtin in defence for a couple of years to develop.
Others considered: None

Pick 19. Adelaide: Koltyn Tholstrup (Subiaco, 186/86, M/F). ATholstrup is one of those X-Factor players that you take at the end of the first round because he could legitimately be anything. He suits a need for Adelaide as well, adding more dynamism to their midfield.
Others considered: Riley Hardeman

Pick 20. North Melbourne: Riley Hardeman (Swan Districts, 185/75, Half Back). A quick half back with a laser boot is something North really need in defence, so taking Hardeman will really accelerate their development.
Others considered: Archie Roberts, Luamon Lual

Pick 21. Greater Western Sydney: Luamon Lual (GWV Rebels, 182/72, HB). Going best available here for the Giants again, he's a good half back and will provide great run and dash for the Giants for a while for me.
Others considered: Archie Roberts, Lance Collard, Tew Jiath

Pick 22. North Melbourne: Archie Roberts (SaD, 184/79, HB). Getting two speedsters off half back is something the Roos need, an astute pick for the Roos here.
Others considered: Lance Collard, Tew Jiath

Pick 23. North Melbourne: Lance Collard (Sub, 180/65 SF). Collard adds some more crumbing skills to North and will be a strong first round candidate here.
Others considered: Tew Jiath, Angus Hastie

Pick 24. Collingwood: Angus Hastie (Geelong Falcons, 190/74, Medium Defender). Just another best available pick for the Pies, no key forward worth it in this range at the moment.
Others considered: Tew Jiath

Pick 25. Adelaide: Taylor Goad (South Adelaide, 206/97, ruck). One of three rucks expected to be taken from 25-35, Goad is strong and competitive and in the perfect age range for Adelaide as he'll likely be ready when RO'B slows down.
Others considered: Tew Jiath, Mitchell Edwards, Will Green

Pick 26. St. Kilda: Tew Jiath (Gippsland Power, 188/72, MD). Jiath is a good all round defender and brother of Hawthorn's Changkuoth, and is simply too good to pass up at this point for St Kilda.
Others considered: Will Green, Joel Freijah

Pick 27. Carlton: Joel Freijah (GWVR, 190/88, OM). Carlton need to add more class on the outside and Freijah is the way to get that here, hard working and a good kick.
Others considered: Harvey Johnston

 

[eth-dog]

Second Round:

Pick 28. Gold Coast: Will Graham (PBC, 186/81, HB). 480 points to match. GC go into 860 point deficit 2024.

Pick 29. West Coast: Zane Zakostelsky (Cla, 196/89, KD).

Pick 30. Geelong: Charlie Edwards (SaD, 191/85, IM).

Pick 31. Carlton: Phoenix Gothard (MB, 178/72, SF)

Pick 32. Richmond: Will Green (NK,204/93, Ruck).

Pick 33. Brisbane: Arie Schoenmaker (Tas, 194/91, KD).

Pick 34. Essendon: Archer Reid (GP, 203/94, KF/R).

Pick 35. Collingwood: Harvey Johnston (SaD, 183/79, F/M).

Pick 36. Fremantle: Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder, 206/89, Ruck).

Pick 37. Essendon: Billy Wilson (DS, 182/71, HB).

Pick 38. West Coast: Wil Dawson (GP, 200/86, TU).

Pick 39. Brisbane: Koen Sanchez (East Fremantle, 177/69, SF).

Pick 40. St. Kilda: Lachlan Charleson (GWVR, 176/72, SF/M)

Pick 41. Richmond: Asthon Moir (Glenelg, 187/85, MF).

Pick 42. Melbourne: Jack Delean (South Adelaide, 181/77, SF).

Pick 43. Greater Western Sydney: Will Lorenz (SaD, 186/80, IM)

 

[eth-dog]

Third Round:

Pick 44. Sydney: George Stevens (GWVR, 189/101, IM)

Pick 45. Fremantle: Clay Hall (PT, 189/87, IM)

Pick 46. Sydney: Caiden Cleary (Sydney Academy, 182/79, IM). Bid with pick 46. Sydney match with pick 48.

Pick 47. Brisbane: Thomas Anastopoulos (GF, 176/66, SF)

Pick 48. Brisbane: Bodie Ryan (Gle, 187/82, HB)

Pick 49. Western Bulldogs: Will Patton (West Adelaide, 192/79, MD)

Pick 50. North Melbourne: Sam Frangalas (DS, 187/85, OM)

Pick 51. West Coast: Aiden O'Driscoll (Perth, 175/70, OM).

Pick 52. Greater Western Sydney: Heath Ollington (Tas, 190/81, IM)

Pick 53. Fremantle: Michael Rudd (GF, 192/91, KF).

Pick 54. Essendon: Will Brown (SaD, 194/86, IM)

Pick 55. Hawthorn: Calsher Dear (SaD, 194/88, KF)

 

[eth-dog]

Fourth Round:

Pick 56. Hawthorn: Pass

Pick 57. Fremantle: Pass

Pick 58. Richmond: Lachlan Smith (GP, 202/97, Ruck)

Pick 59. Brisbane: Nathan Philactides (Oakleigh Chargers, 181/78, HB).

Pick 60. Richmond: Luke Lloyd (SaD, 193/84, KF).

Pick 61. Western Bulldogs: Vigo Visentini (SaD, 203/97, Ruck)

Pick 62. Carlton: Pass

Pick 63. Western Bulldogs: Sam Naismith

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Sam Naismith

Age

32

Ht

205cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.9

2star

K

3.6

1star

HB

5.3

4star

CL

2.0

4star

HO

25.5

5star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.0

1star

CL

3.0

4star

HO

26.5

5star

D

9.2

3star

K

3.2

2star

HB

6.0

4star

CL

1.4

4star

HO

25.4

5star

(Port Melbourne, 206/108, Ruck)

Pick 64. Port Adelaide: Riley Wetherill (ER, 195/87, KF)

Pick 65. Western Bulldogs: Pass

Pick 66. Geelong: Pass

Pick 67. Greater Western Sydney: Harvey Thomas (GWS Academy, 175/68, SF).

Pick 68. Carlton: Pass

Pick 69. Greater Western Sydney: Pass

Pick 70. Collingwood: Pass

 

[Donakebab]

As always I'll be the first mug of the board to submit a phantom.

 

[eth-dog]

It's coming (first round probably finished at around 11)

 

[weltschmerz]

ModernArtillery beat you to it

 

[eth-dog]

Okay, it's 11:20 but first round is there.

 

[Brissyroo]

Great job.
I'm keen for North to take ARIE SCHOENMAKER with one of their end of first round picks.
Decent size defender with dash, and pair a couple of Tassie boys if we take mckercher also

 

[Lingsface]

Second Round:

Pick 28. Gold Coast: Will Graham (PBC, 186/81, HB). 480 points to match. GC go into 860 point deficit 2024.

Pick 29. West Coast: Zane Zakostelsky (Cla, 196/89, KD).

Pick 30. Geelong: Charlie Edwards (SaD, 191/85, IM).

Pick 31. Carlton: Phoenix Gothard (MB, 178/72, SF)

Pick 32. Richmond: Will Green (NK,204/93, Ruck).

Pick 33. Brisbane: Arie Schoenmaker (Tas, 194/91, KD).

Pick 34. Essendon: Archer Reid (GP, 203/94, KF/R).

Pick 35. Collingwood: Harvey Johnston (SaD, 183/79, F/M).

Pick 36. Fremantle: Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder, 206/89, Ruck).

Pick 37. Essendon: Billy Wilson (DS, 182/71, HB).

Pick 38. West Coast: Wil Dawson (GP, 200/86, TU).

Pick 39. Brisbane: Koen Sanchez (East Fremantle, 177/69, SF).

Pick 40. St. Kilda: Lachlan Charleson (GWVR, 176/72, SF/M)

Pick 41. Richmond: Asthon Moir (Glenelg, 187/85, MF).

Pick 42. Melbourne: Jack Delean (South Adelaide, 181/77, SF).

Pick 43. Greater Western Sydney: Will Lorenz (SaD, 186/80, IM)

love these picks for the cats...fingers crossed

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Not sure how much more class Blues need on the outside. We'll be stacked with outside runners with Acres, Hollands, Cottrell, Binns and the Camporeale twins coming next year.

Inside pace would be useful. A genuine tall defender. A class half forward - hoping Elijah Hollands steps up here.

 

[eth-dog]

ModernArtillery beat you to it

Nah he's actually knowledgeable unlike me.

Great job.
I'm keen for North to take ARIE SCHOENMAKER with one of their end of first round picks.
Decent size defender with dash, and pair a couple of Tassie boys if we take mckercher also

Arie is probably a little too early there but I also see teams trading up to those picks for North to take him a little later.

Not sure how much more class Blues need on the outside. We'll be stacked with outside runners with Acres, Hollands, Cottrell, Binns and the Camporeale twins coming next year.

Inside pace would be useful. A genuine tall defender. A class half forward - hoping Elijah Hollands steps up here.

Binns I haven't seen much of, Cottrell I really don't rate and I see both Hollands boys ending up inside. As far as pace on the inside goes, there really isn't anything but Freijah does tend to play forward/wing at this stage so could turn into that Melksham type.

love these picks for the cats...fingers crossed

I think it's a simple case of whoever's left of Caddy, O'Sullivan and Sanders for your first and then Edwards for your second (who I really wanted but can't see him sliding to us).

 

[the big lebowski]

If north take 6 picks and don’t draft a KPP I will be shocked

 

[eth-dog]

If north take 6 picks and don’t draft a KPP I will be shocked

It's standard practice for you lot though .

In all seriousness, I think you'll use those three late firsts to bank picks for next year and trade up/back with them.

 

[briztoon]

It's standard practice for you lot though .

In all seriousness, I think you'll use those three late firsts to bank picks for next year and trade up/back with them.

From listening to our recruiters, I believe we have 4 priorities at the draft.

1) Pushing our first pick in to next year.

2) Pushing our second pick pick in to next year.

3) KPP

4) KPP

Pretty keen on Will Dawson and Riley Weatherill myself.

Word on our board is we’re going to rookie list one of our VFL players, Bruce Reville.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Fourth Round:

Pick 56. Hawthorn: Pass

Pick 57. Fremantle: Pass

Pick 58. Richmond: Lachlan Smith (GP, 202/97, Ruck)

Pick 59. Brisbane: Nathan Philactides (Oakleigh Chargers, 181/78, HB).

Pick 60. Richmond: Luke Lloyd (SaD, 193/84, KF).

Pick 61. Western Bulldogs: Vigo Visentini (SaD, 203/97, Ruck)

Pick 62. Carlton: Pass

Pick 63. Western Bulldogs: Sam Naismith (Port Melbourne, 206/108, Ruck)

Pick 64. Port Adelaide: Riley Wetherill (ER, 195/87, KF)

Pick 65. Western Bulldogs: Pass

Pick 66. Geelong: Pass

Pick 67. Greater Western Sydney: Harvey Thomas (GWS Academy, 175/68, SF).

Pick 68. Carlton: Pass

Pick 69. Greater Western Sydney: Pass

Pick 70. Collingwood: Pass

I think Tarkyn O'Leary gets picked up, especially after his combine testing.

 

[eth-dog]

From listening to our recruiters, I believe we have 4 priorities at the draft.

1) Pushing our first pick in to next year.

2) Pushing our second pick pick in to next year.

3) KPP

4) KPP

Pretty keen on Will Dawson and Riley Weatherill myself.

Word on our board is we’re going to rookie list one of our VFL players, Bruce Reville.

Not sure you have the collateral to push those two seconds into anything good next year. As far as KPP's go, you're probably better off staying high and taking Schoenmaker and Reid

 

[eth-dog]

I think Tarkyn O'Leary gets picked up, especially after his combine testing.

I always miss someone haha

 

[harro92]

Harry De Mattia a chance for Essendon with there first pick ?


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[eth-dog]

Harry De Mattia a chance for Essendon with there first pick ?


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If we trade up with our two seconds maybe the second but he's firmly in the rung below where we first pick IMO

 

[geelongrecruit5]

Second Round:

Pick 28. Gold Coast: Will Graham (PBC, 186/81, HB). 480 points to match. GC go into 860 point deficit 2024.

Pick 29. West Coast: Zane Zakostelsky (Cla, 196/89, KD).

Pick 30. Geelong: Charlie Edwards (SaD, 191/85, IM).

Pick 31. Carlton: Phoenix Gothard (MB, 178/72, SF)

Pick 32. Richmond: Will Green (NK,204/93, Ruck).

Pick 33. Brisbane: Arie Schoenmaker (Tas, 194/91, KD).

Pick 34. Essendon: Archer Reid (GP, 203/94, KF/R).

Pick 35. Collingwood: Harvey Johnston (SaD, 183/79, F/M).

Pick 36. Fremantle: Mitchell Edwards (Peel Thunder, 206/89, Ruck).

Pick 37. Essendon: Billy Wilson (DS, 182/71, HB).

Pick 38. West Coast: Wil Dawson (GP, 200/86, TU).

Pick 39. Brisbane: Koen Sanchez (East Fremantle, 177/69, SF).

Pick 40. St. Kilda: Lachlan Charleson (GWVR, 176/72, SF/M)

Pick 41. Richmond: Asthon Moir (Glenelg, 187/85, MF).

Pick 42. Melbourne: Jack Delean (South Adelaide, 181/77, SF).

Pick 43. Greater Western Sydney: Will Lorenz (SaD, 186/80, IM)

So you don’t have Morris from the western jets being drafted?

 

[eth-dog]

So you don’t have Morris from the western jets being drafted?

I haven't seen him on any list from the draft experts.

 

[geelongrecruit5]

I haven't seen him on any list from the draft experts.

Really, AFL draft power rankings he’s listed at number 30.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Thanks for the effort eth-dog, but from a St Kilda point of view that looks like an extremely poor draft. I hope they do a lot better at the actual event. Obviously its a subjective opinion but I dont rate De Mattia in the top 30, we have an abundance of back flankers (Tew) and Charleson will be lucky to be picked up as a rookie IMO.

On the other hand Essendon would be wrapt with their draft haul if it eventuates!

 

[briztoon]

Not sure you have the collateral to push those two seconds into anything good next year. As far as KPP's go, you're probably better off staying high and taking Schoenmaker and Reid

How similar is Archer Reid to the Lions 2024 academy kid, Tom Gillett?

I have the same concern with Reid, as I do Gillett. Are they somewhat adverse to hard, physical body contact.

But I’m unsure if it’s a genuine concern, or if they are young giraffes, who probably won’t grow in to their bodies until they’re in their early to mid 20’s.