Etihad Stadium Gone by 2025?

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Good stadium IMHO. Very good location (for the football fan).

No shit Docklands could have been done a hell of a lot better but I think about 1% has anything to do with the stadium. I would have thought an E-Gate stadium (ideally around the Metro Tunnel / Kensington Exit and leveraging the new tunnel and existing North Melbourne infrastructure would be the only real logical alternative now that Showgrounds appears off the agenda).

I'd rather it stays where it is now and instead of the AFL wasting money we just keep it up to date.
 
Eh, docklands was a dumb idea though anyway. It's almost like they were trying to make Melbourne like Sydney. But Melbourne isn't Sydney and will never be so. Melbourne has a natural cultural hub, the CBD, it's not hidden by train tracks, nor is it near a windy and cold waterfront. They could add some parks there and green it up a bit but why would someone choose docklands over say the Fitzroy gardens? You can't just assume people will go to a place which has things, the things have to have something other places don't.
 

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This is ****ing stupid and an insult to tax payers.

And whats just as stupid is the idiot that approved the Southern Cross Station design with diesel trains running in it.

That whole area is a joke, the stadium is the only good part of it.
 
Richo83 said:
Where else would you put the diesels?
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He means the ridiculous roof that held in all the exhaust fumes when it was first built because apparently no one considered the fact that diesel locos might possibly emit exhaust during their operation.
 
ManWithNoName said:
Yeah the new footbridge helps but I hate that building. Walking through Yarra Park with the G growing bigger and bigger as you approach it is something special. You used to get a similar effect with Etihad. Now it's just office buildings and oh there's a football ground. I hate it.
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Exactly my point.
 
Simple Jack said:
He means the ridiculous roof that held in all the exhaust fumes when it was first built because apparently no one considered the fact that diesel locos might possibly emit exhaust during their operation.
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So what, build spencer st without a roof? Yeah that's a genius idea. I've used that station hundreds of times, never been an issue.
 
Richo83 said:
Eh, docklands was a dumb idea though anyway. It's almost like they were trying to make Melbourne like Sydney. But Melbourne isn't Sydney and will never be so. Melbourne has a natural cultural hub, the CBD, it's not hidden by train tracks, nor is it near a windy and cold waterfront. They could add some parks there and green it up a bit but why would someone choose docklands over say the Fitzroy gardens? You can't just assume people will go to a place which has things, the things have to have something other places don't.
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They were trying to create a new NYC
Only issue is, the lack of parkland, schools and any decent infrastructure
 
Ice-Wolf said:
The Lord Mayor is an idiot and failed state opposition leader

You know what really cuts off the Docklands precinct from the CBD, Spencer St Station and the associated rail lines.

But if anything needs to go it's the 2 new buildings they just put up that have destroyed any pre-match atmosphere that the docklands stadium possessed.
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Also wasn't much chop as a teacher.
 

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People will whinge regardless of what happens as nothing would please everyone 100% of the time. So let's blow another 10 figures on another stadium which in time will look dated too and which people will complain about. Good one....

The buildings they put up around it are the worst part, used to love walking across the footbridge seeing the stadium get closer, now you can barely see it with all the towers around it.
 
Richo83 said:
So what, build spencer st without a roof? Yeah that's a genius idea. I've used that station hundreds of times, never been an issue.
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No, don't design it so shitly in the first place. You've used that station hundreds of times for a small amount of time. The staff that worked there were getting sick, which is why they eventually had to retrofit extraction fans to the fairly new (expensive) roof.
 
Knocking it down would be a complete overreaction. The precinct probably can't be fixed, it's a ghost town, we're going to have to accept that. But the stadium itself is in a convenient spot.



As shown here, turning even the biggest dump of a stadium into a state of the art stadium is do-able.

-Replace the seats and improve the walkways
-Upgrade the concourse including new eateries and bars
-Coaches boxes in the proper position like they should've been had they not been forgotten
-New scoreboards that don't restrict the view of those sitting beside them

Oh and if you want to knock down those ludicrous, atmosphere dimming buildings around it, that's a good move too.
 
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How does it block anything traffic wise? Bourke St down one end and La Trobe down the other. A footbridge from Southern Cross to Docklands that wouldn't exist without Etihad. Any road down the middle would be going through the heart of Southern Cross. It's not like there is room between it and the water for anything either - the shopping precinct is to the north.

It feels like a copout by Doyle for the reality that Docklands is cold and grey for half the year and noone wants to go there.
 
Pappagallo said:
If the AFL sold Etihad and rebuilt elsewhere you can bet your bottom dollar that it would be replaced by some massive mothergoosing apartment towers. It would do nothing for the area apart from making it more quiet and soulless.
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pretty spot on. the big stupid grey buildings located around Etihad stadium are nothing but an eyesore to the city and around the stadium
 
Maybe therell be a repeat of docklands, afl get use of a new stadium in 25 years for $1 but the clubs get ripped off even more than they do now at docklands

Maybe therell be a save docklands movement.

I still maintain the afl could have three smaller stadiums in suburbia for the money and still play the big games at MCG. Its just that kennet collins and oakley were having a dick measuring contest, but in order to find the cas to buy they had to bend victoria over to be anally violated by the stadium builders​
 
Richo83 said:
Eh, docklands was a dumb idea though anyway. It's almost like they were trying to make Melbourne like Sydney. But Melbourne isn't Sydney and will never be so. Melbourne has a natural cultural hub, the CBD, it's not hidden by train tracks, nor is it near a windy and cold waterfront. They could add some parks there and green it up a bit but why would someone choose docklands over say the Fitzroy gardens? You can't just assume people will go to a place which has things, the things have to have something other places don't.
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Not a dumb idea at all. It wasn't going to be Sydney, nothing like it. It was simply to add a large scale waterfront to the city. Don't know if you've been down Southbank to South Wharf lately but they finally seem to be getting that right, restaurants and bars doing well on the river. It could have been something similar but on a bigger scale. It wouldn't have affected the current CBD etc at all.

It was incredibly poorly executed, with the stadium as the barely believable jewel in the cockup crown.
 
I never understood why we wanted a 'boutique' stadium to begin with, but then we went and cocked it up so that half the tenants could only grow their membership to a set size before they'd run into seating constraints, the grass took ten years to grow in the joint, and all the while the East is sprawling and growing but the one large stadium they built out that side of town is left to rot before being sold off because organising public transport was an afterthought and too hard to remedy.

Love the MCG, but it seems like it will forever have some half arsed effort as a companion in this city.
 
Striker475 said:
How does it block anything traffic wise? Bourke St down one end and La Trobe down the other. A footbridge from Southern Cross to Docklands that wouldn't exist without Etihad. Any road down the middle would be going through the heart of Southern Cross. It's not like there is room between it and the water for anything either - the shopping precinct is to the north.

It feels like a copout by Doyle for the reality that Docklands is cold and grey for half the year and noone wants to go there.
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The idea is that you could walk out of Southern Cross from the elevated location (they could've built that footbridge eventually) and see across medium density buildings to the water and despite being cold and windy it would have it's own charm.

It wasn't ever going to be as busy as the Melbourne CBD, or as trendy as somewhere like Carlton or Fitzroy and not a chance was it ever going to be Sydney Harbour.

But it could've had it's own appeal and being a bit of an extension of the CBD mixed with it's own little self sufficient inner city community.
 
Save the money and build another stadium for Victory.
By that time they will arguably be the biggest sporting club in the country.
 
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