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Shouldn't need to get to the appeals board to see the right decision reached. Each replay makes the onfield process taken all the more bizarre.


Of that view at full speed, yes, which I said in a previous post. But when slowed down and viewed as the straight leg clipping the leg of the player without taking the ball, you can understand why the ref sees it as a red, insufficient force or not. When you start taking the decision out of the on-field ref's hands despite multiple replays at the appeals board then we're headed for trouble.
 
The process is correct. The decision to review is subjective and solely at the discretion of the VAR referee. It's no different to any other referee decision.

The VAR process got the decision wrong twice. It incorrectly referred the onfield ref to the monitor. Then the onfield ref made an incorrect decision to give DCL a red card. The process that is resulting in these incorrect decisions needs to be reviewed. As Dyche said, what's the point of going to the monitor if they are just going to confirm the VAR judgment?
 

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The VAR process got the decision wrong twice. It incorrectly referred the onfield ref to the monitor. Then the onfield ref made an incorrect decision to give DCL a red card. The process that is resulting in these incorrect decisions needs to be reviewed. As Dyche said, what's the point of going to the monitor if they are just going to confirm the VAR judgment?

It's not an incorrect referral. The final decision lies with the referee. If the VAR believes an obvious error has been made they absolutely should refer for an onfield review.

Nothing wrong with the process at all. Better to encourage more reviews to be sure than not review at all.
 
It's not an incorrect referral. The final decision lies with the referee. If the VAR believes an obvious error has been made they absolutely should refer for an onfield review.

Nothing wrong with the process at all. Better to encourage more reviews to be sure than not review at all.

It was an incorrect referral because it wasn't a clear and obvious error that might have resulted in a red card. That's the rule.

Then the process of the onfield ref going to the monitor isn't working - because they just confirm the VAR judgment even when it's wrong.
 

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The fixturing doesn't favour fans, the most staggering part to me is that 10pm on a Fri Night is the last train.
Just how inept is UK public transport???

Last train Fri Night from Southern Cross to regional vic locations, which are all smaller towns than Newcastle or Manchester..

Seymour: 11:43pm (also has 2am coach).
Geelong: 1:15am (2x 2:15am coaches).
Traralgon (Gippsland): 11:59pm (2am coach).
Bendigo: 11:57pm (1am and 2am coaches).
Ballarat: 11:52pm (1:10 and 2:10am coaches).

Manchester would have more people than those 5 destinations combined.
 
The fixturing doesn't favour fans, the most staggering part to me is that 10pm on a Fri Night is the last train.
Just how inept is UK public transport???

Last train Fri Night from Southern Cross to regional vic locations, which are all smaller towns than Newcastle or Manchester..

Seymour: 11:43pm (also has 2am coach).
Geelong: 1:15am (2x 2:15am coaches).
Traralgon (Gippsland): 11:59pm (2am coach).
Bendigo: 11:57pm (1am and 2am coaches).
Ballarat: 11:52pm (1:10 and 2:10am coaches).

Manchester would have more people than those 5 destinations combined.
The hint is in the name. It's not public transport. It's all privately owned.
 
The fixturing doesn't favour fans, the most staggering part to me is that 10pm on a Fri Night is the last train.
Just how inept is UK public transport???

It's a bit like football, the UK public don't have it in them to do something meaningful to force change. They just accept a shit service.


Public transport in the UK is awful, particularly once you leave London. High speed rail to Manchester has been scrapped (after billions being spent already), last I heard is that some of the money earmarked for HS2 is going to fix London roads.

Really we should be burning Westminster down. But we moan about it, and accept the shit.
 
It's a bit like football, the UK public don't have it in them to do something meaningful to force change. They just accept a s**t service.


Public transport in the UK is awful, particularly once you leave London. High speed rail to Manchester has been scrapped (after billions being spent already), last I heard is that some of the money earmarked for HS2 is going to fix London roads.

Really we should be burning Westminster down. But we moan about it, and accept the s**t.

I actually thought it was all private - does the government actually own the services or just the track? I thought there were issues such as tracks of different sizes for different trains on different networks making the whole thing a complete mess?
 
I actually thought it was all private - does the government actually own the services or just the track? I thought there were issues such as tracks of different sizes for different trains on different networks making the whole thing a complete mess?
The infrastructure and the routes are government. Train operating companies bid for the right to run the service on the routes.

It's not really the fault of the operators, they're there to make money. But the government should have certain conditions/minimum levels of service before accepting any bid for a route.
 

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Damn, that cup tie was equal parts thrilling, gratifying, and heartbreaking. Pool claw back from 0-2 vs forest at home, should have scored via dembele in added time, then lose it in the 110th minute. The lad was there, said the atmosphere was brilliant.

 

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