Coach Fages and the coaching group

[Toffee Lion]

I think the biggest complaints stem back to the Melbourne game, which Fagan himself admitted that he stuffed up.

I appreciate the honesty to just put his hand up and say that he messed up and how it can be fixed for next time, which we’ve won all our close games since.

He brought Gunston back but to be honest Jack came back in good shape and contributed until his injury.

Fages definitely went through some learnings this year and has come out the other side of it improved, IMO.

 

[Squizz89]

Pin this up on the wall for a bit of extra motivation over the next month Chris.

Forget the ladder - the Lions have never been further away from a flag

A top-two finish means nothing for Brisbane unless they change the way they play heading into September. This is a team celebrated as nearly…

www.theroar.com.au

To be fair, the author is probably right, in the sense that I think if we go on to win it we certainly won't go down as the best premiership team of all time, however I think we'll be saying that about whoever wins the flag this year. I don't believe the real top tier teams are as good as some previously, but if you're in with a chance, a premiership is a premiership at the end of the day.

 

[Harris Specter]

Pin this up on the wall for a bit of extra motivation over the next month Chris.

Forget the ladder - the Lions have never been further away from a flag

A top-two finish means nothing for Brisbane unless they change the way they play heading into September. This is a team celebrated as nearly…

www.theroar.com.au

To be fair, the author is probably right, I certainly think if we go on to win it we won't go down as the best premiership team of all time, however I think we'll be saying that about whoever wins the flag this year. I don't believe the real top tier teams are as good as some previously, so if you're in with a chance, why not try and take it?

At the same time, praising Collingwood to be the team to beat after poor showings in the last month. This journalist is a joke.

 

[Dalions]

At the same time, praising Collingwood to be the team to beat after poor showings in the last month. This journalist is a joke.

They have had more points kicked against them in the last month then we have

 

[buttermuffs]

At the same time, praising Collingwood to be the team to beat after poor showings in the last month. This journalist is a joke.

Also fail to recognise that Fremantle managed to beat Melbourne at the MCG. Melbourne kicked themselves out of multiple games against lesser opponents.

Adelaide lost themselves their game against Melbourne and Collingwood off of their own poor kicking as well.

Collingwood conceded 100 plus points against Geelong in their only win in the last four weeks.

Port lost four games in a row to lose a guaranteed top two spot including getting demolished by Adelaide.

Can do this type of weird analysis for every single team top four team. Nitpick Brisbane (with added valid criticisms) and focus on scores of individual games as if football is meant to produce very linear results. It felt like a very much ‘this margin was small and the opponent wasn’t a contender therefore they didn’t do good at all’.

 

[M Malice]

AFL "journalism" is tabloid level stuff... in the old days they would have had a bare chested Dev on page 3.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Pin this up on the wall for a bit of extra motivation over the next month Chris.

Forget the ladder - the Lions have never been further away from a flag

A top-two finish means nothing for Brisbane unless they change the way they play heading into September. This is a team celebrated as nearly…

www.theroar.com.au

To be fair, the author is probably right, in the sense that I think if we go on to win it we certainly won't go down as the best premiership team of all time, however I think we'll be saying that about whoever wins the flag this year. I don't believe the real top tier teams are as good as some previously, but if you're in with a chance, a premiership is a premiership at the end of the day.

This is the same chap who said we were the biggest loser in the trade period last year, before doubling down on his criticisms in April.

Then you have one of his colleagues who may not have actually watched us play this year. It's a well written and entertaining piece actually, but loses credibility when it suggests we still only score from clearances.

Mind you, we still have 4 or 5 games to go yet (hopefully) and the proof will be in the pudding either way.

 

[Toffee Lion]

Pin this up on the wall for a bit of extra motivation over the next month Chris.

Forget the ladder - the Lions have never been further away from a flag

A top-two finish means nothing for Brisbane unless they change the way they play heading into September. This is a team celebrated as nearly…

www.theroar.com.au

To be fair, the author is probably right, in the sense that I think if we go on to win it we certainly won't go down as the best premiership team of all time, however I think we'll be saying that about whoever wins the flag this year. I don't believe the real top tier teams are as good as some previously, but if you're in with a chance, a premiership is a premiership at the end of the day.

What a shocking article written by some random so called "expert".

I could rip it to shreds with actual analysis but I really don't think it's worth the time of my day. Just very poorly put together and shudder to think this is what passes for journalism these days.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Pin this up on the wall for a bit of extra motivation over the next month Chris.

Forget the ladder - the Lions have never been further away from a flag

A top-two finish means nothing for Brisbane unless they change the way they play heading into September. This is a team celebrated as nearly…

www.theroar.com.au

To be fair, the author is probably right, in the sense that I think if we go on to win it we certainly won't go down as the best premiership team of all time, however I think we'll be saying that about whoever wins the flag this year. I don't believe the real top tier teams are as good as some previously, but if you're in with a chance, a premiership is a premiership at the end of the day.

That writer is a diehard Tigers fan, who has seemingly had an axe to grind with the Lions for a long time (I think it dates back to us beating them in 2020).

If anybody is worried that he is a footy prophet with an unbeatable read of the game, this take from last year should be enough to allay any fears:

 

[3KZ is Football]

Lions leave door open for 'selfless' veteran to return in finals

 

[Nathan Barley]

Just because the roar has a website I don't think the stories should have any more credibility than a Facebook post

 

[M Malice]

Lions leave door open for 'selfless' veteran to return in finals

I listened to all of that presser and my interpretation of what Chris Fagan said was that barring a spate of injuries to our small backs Richy is no chance of coming back in.

 

[Tom14]

This is the same chap who said we were the biggest loser in the trade period last year, before doubling down on his criticisms in April.

Then you have one of his colleagues who may not have actually watched us play this year. It's a well written and entertaining piece actually, but loses credibility when it suggests we still only score from clearances.

Mind you, we still have 4 or 5 games to go yet (hopefully) and the proof will be in the pudding either way.

Yeah this guy stinks. He loves to cherry pick a few stats and draw very big conclusions about them. Eg his big one from April was:

However, seeing a drop-off in offensive output that is paired with similar defensive woes is a genuine concern that results shouldn’t mask.

In 2022, the Lions averaged 55.7 inside 50s per game, ranked sixth in the competition, and scored in 43.99% of their entries. They ranked fifth for metres gained, sixth for marks inside 50 and averaged 6.22 disposals per inside 50, which was the third-lowest ratio in the league, indicate directness.

Through the opening month of the season, Brisbane is averaging 50.2 inside 50s, good for 14th. They’re only scoring 42.03% of the time they go forward, which is comfortably worse than West Coast and North Melbourne for reference.

The reason the offensive numbers looked bad after the opening month of the season is that we had a shocking loss to Port that skewed every data point. GO forward to round 24 and we are third for inside 50s in the comp behind melbourne and port and second for scores per inside 50 behind adeliade.

The benefit of writing this type of article is that it literally takes us winning a flag for him to be proven wrong, even if we lose a prelim by a point he gets to say that we are 'as far off as ever.'

 

[JasRulz63]

Like someone wise once said, opinions are like arseholes...

 

[rwan566]

I hope the no sentiment rule applies to Gunston as well

 

[Dizzle]

Like someone wise once said, opinions are like arseholes...

So he is an opinion?

 

[Dalions]

I listened to all of that presser and my interpretation of what Chris Fagan said was that barring a spate of injuries to our small backs Richy is no chance of coming back in.

That is basically the way that article reads too.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Like someone wise once said, opinions are like arseholes...

…they barrack for Collingwood?

 

[buttermuffs]

I listened to all of that presser and my interpretation of what Chris Fagan said was that barring a spate of injuries to our small backs Richy is no chance of coming back in.

Makes sense. It’s not like if he’s healthy they are going to say “no chance he’s coming back” when asked about the possibility because there’s always a chance anyone on the list would be needed.


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[Grasshopper17]

That writer is a diehard Tigers fan, who has seemingly had an axe to grind with the Lions for a long time (I think it dates back to us beating them in 2020).

If anybody is worried that he is a footy prophet with an unbeatable read of the game, this take from last year should be enough to allay any fears:

I see your post, and I raise you this little pearler.

 

[M Malice]

When they are quoting percentage stats the differences in a lot of cases are so miniscule you can't derive any meaningful significance from them IMO.

eg. From Dern Panporous's article about the Lions today >

This season, they’ve conceded the fewest inside 50s per game and are conceding a score 42.9 per cent of the time, which is around were most decent teams are.

But over the last six rounds, that’s up to conceding a score 45.2 per cent of the time. For reference, only North Melbourne and West Coast concede at a higher rate this season.

 

[Dalions]

When they are quoting percentage stats the differences in a lot of cases are so miniscule you can't derive any meaningful significance from them IMO.

eg. From Dern Panporous's article about the Lions today >

This season, they’ve conceded the fewest inside 50s per game and are conceding a score 42.9 per cent of the time, which is around were most decent teams are.

But over the last six rounds, that’s up to conceding a score 45.2 per cent of the time. For reference, only North Melbourne and West Coast concede at a higher rate this season.

We have probably been getting an extra 15 to 20 inside 50’s per game than those 2 teams over that period also.
So the scoring potential is there anyway.

 

[mpal6]

That writer is a diehard Tigers fan, who has seemingly had an axe to grind with the Lions for a long time (I think it dates back to us beating them in 2020).

If anybody is worried that he is a footy prophet with an unbeatable read of the game, this take from last year should be enough to allay any fears:

ok so the guy's a muppet who likes to make wild calls to get the spotlight.

When it doesn't happen, he moves on to his next wild call. Perfect way to keep his idiocy in the limelight.

 

[Grasshopper17]

ok so the guy's a muppet who likes to make wild calls to get the spotlight.

When it doesn't happen, he moves on to his next wild call. Perfect way to keep his idiocy in the limelight.

To be honest, this is how a lot of economists at the major financial institutions also operate.

 

[McIvor]

ok so the guy's a muppet who likes to make wild calls to get the spotlight.

When it doesn't happen, he moves on to his next wild call. Perfect way to keep his idiocy in the limelight.

FWIW I like Kane Cornes and his take on a lot of things but I also get particularly a couple of years ago when he was making many inflammatory statements to get up the backsides of people and to stand out (which has actually done wonders for his career) that perhaps this chap is attempting something similar off a very very long run up given he neither has the credibility or playing career of Kane and is only on some very low rate website and hope to get noticed by someone in the industry to boost his visibility/ career?