Toast Farewell Joel Selwood, champion of the game and legend of the Geelong Football Club

[ChristianBoy]

Lenny Hayes

Lenny Hayes

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44

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22.5

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11.5

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11.0

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Joel Selwood and Luke Hodge doubt there'd be many if any players ahead of them if you were picking a Grand Final team.

 

[The Final Word]

 

[HairyO]

Future hall of famer and legend of the game. One of the all time great leaders. Congratulations on an incredible career at the highest level. Seems like a great bloke off-field as well. Deserves to retire as a premiership captain!

As a hawks supporter this will forever sting!!! What hurts more is Xavier Ellis, begged the club to draft Selwood..the rest is history

2005 AFL draft:

Pick 6- Mitch Thorp
Pick 7- Joel Selwood

Mitch Thorp rates Mitch Thorp.

 

[danster168]

Ben Reid was a premiership all Australian and 150 games.
Leunberger was a top ruckman riddled with injuries 150 games.
Lachie Hansen 150 games.
Gibbs 260 games and a best and fairest.
Nathan Brown 183 games premiership player.

Not horrible.

Yeah I might have been harsh on Reid. Games played is irrelevant though. Even Jack Watts played 174 games of nothingness.

 

[Shadow89]

It's not BS. Many neutrals feel the same. This isn't Geelong's board. I'm not even slandering him. I said he was a great player, you're just focused on the negatives because you're highly defensive of players from your own team.

No I'm saying it's not the place right now, when he's literally just retired. It's amazing how important you think your opinion is, when you fail to recognize just how tone deaf you are. Learn to read the room, and give it a rest for once.

 

[gouki88]

Obviously disliked him because of the amount of Collingwood heartbreak he had a starring role in, but there is nothing but respect (although I was probably not so respectful after 07... or 11... or xyz ).

Hard as a cats head (pardon the pun), more skilled than he was given credit for, and was simply a winner. Sustained excellence for a long, long time - in that way I've always compared him to Pendlebury.

Four of the long-term constants retired this year in the two Kennedy's, Mundy, and Selwood.

 

[Smedts_2]

Best thing that’s ever happened to our club. Irreplaceable.

Thanks Joel. We’ll miss you.

 

[gouki88]

It's not BS. Many neutrals feel the same. This isn't Geelong's board. I'm not even slandering him. I said he was a great player, you're just focused on the negatives because you're highly defensive of players from your own team.

Do you think it is appropriate in a thread tagged "toast"?

 

[ChristianBoy]

Is the 2006 the worst top 10 draft in the history of AFL? 2 massive wins in Selwood and Boak, 1 average pick in Gibbs and 7 epic fails.

1.Gibbs
2.Gumbleton
3. L.Hansen
4. Leuenberger
5. T.Boak
6. M.Thorp
7. Selwood
8. Ben Reid
9. Armitage
10. Nathan Brown

Boak a champion Reid Brown Armitage Gibbs all better than handy in their roles.

 

[danster168]

Do you think it is appropriate in a thread tagged "toast"?

I literally just saw that now. ok cool. so we all just come here and say 'good career Joel' and move on. I thought we could discuss his career and legacy but apparently not so.

 

[uranium_death]

Yeah I might have been harsh on Reid. Games played is irrelevant though. Even Jack Watts played 174 games of nothingness.

If that's an epic fail, then I wish I was that type of epic fail. I assume you would as well

 

[gouki88]

I literally just saw that now. ok cool. so we all just come here and say 'good career Joel' and move on. I thought we could discuss his career and legacy but apparently not so.

You can say whatever you please, just don't expect people to sit idly by if you're talking rubbish

 

[loki04]

An all time champion player and great man off the field, well done on a great career and congratulations on your retirement.

 

[Engimal v3]

An all time champion player and great man off the field, well done on a great career and congratulations on your retirement.

Thank you

 

[danster168]

If that's an epic fail, then I wish I was that type of epic fail. I assume you would as well

I think if you're a top 10 pick, or even top 5 pick then you should be expecting more than just a role player who is 16-22 on your list.

 

[ChristianBoy]

I think if you're a top 10 pick, or even top 5 pick then you should be expecting more than just a role player who is 16-22 on your list.

Reckon 9 out of that ten were more than that.

 

[danster168]

Reckon 9 out of that ten were more than that.

When was Gumbleton or Thorp more than that?

 

[uranium_death]

I think if you're a top 10 pick, or even top 5 pick then you should be expecting more than just a role player who is 16-22 on your list.

It is based on junior talent though. I think the sample size is enough to know that it doesn't automatically transfer across to senior football

Football is a hard, harsh game. What you achieved as a junior gives no right to success as an AFL footballer
To think that anybody who is a first-round should be a guaranteed success is foolish.
There have been many successful third and fourth round picks to suggest that a successful career is determined by too many factors other than junior talent

Ending up at a rubbish club with a terrible culture devoid of any leadership can affect a career. Jack Watts may have been a star at a stronger club like Collingwood had he ended up there. Instead, he was treated as a messiah before he'd even played a game, with a complete lack of leadership around him

Joel Selwood had good leaders around him when he started and a culture that was developing positively

Selwood maintained that culture throughout his captaincy. Aside from his on-field success, Selwood's crowning glory should be that he maintained the already high standards of the football club - a reason why The Cats have stayed strong for so long

Max Gawn has similar qualities - and that isn't in any way linked to his draft pick number

 

[ChristianBoy]

When was Gumbleton or Thorp more than that?

Gumbleton was cut down by injuries nothing to do with talent. He was playing key forward and going well when he could get on.

 

[danster168]

It is based on junior talent though. I think the sample size is enough to know that it doesn't automatically transfer across to senior football

Football is a hard, harsh game. What you achieved as a junior gives no right to success as an AFL footballer
To think that anybody who is a first-round should be a guaranteed success is foolish.
There have been many successful third and fourth round picks to suggest that a successful career is determined by too many factors other than junior talent

Ending up at a rubbish club with a terrible culture devoid of any leadership can affect a career. Jack Watts may have been a star at a stronger club like Collingwood had he ended up there. Instead, he was treated as a messiah before he'd even played a game, with a complete lack of leadership around him

Joel Selwood had good leaders around him when he started and a culture that was developing positively

Selwood maintained that culture throughout his captaincy. Aside from his on-field success, Selwood's crowning glory should be that he maintained the already high standards of the football club - a reason why The Cats have stayed strong for so long

Max Gawn has similar qualities - and that isn't in any way linked to his draft pick number

Yeah, the draft is very speculative. It's very easy to get picks wrong. And I agree in that junior football definitely doesn't transfer to senior footy. I should've said that the top 10 picks are picked to be stars of the afl, not to be role players. If they turn into a role player because they weren't the star that they hoped for then it is what it is.

 

[calyam]

It's a hell of a career and he leaves an incredible legacy of excellence at Geelong.

There have been better players but few if any would be as satisfied with their career as Joel Selwood. The guy just won and won and won for sixteen seasons.

 

[The Final Word]

Can we just make a bigger deal about how he's played a total of 1 dead rubber in his AFL career? One!

Round 23, 2015 was the only meaningless game he ever played where, no matter what, the Cats couldn't win the flag. And he went and got 34 touches, 8 tackles and a goal against a finals-bound Adelaide team.

Going to say, that'll never be done again by a 300 game player.

 

[Milanista28]

Champion

 

[danster168]

Gumbleton was cut down by injuries nothing to do with talent. He was playing key forward and going well when he could get on.

yeah I know he was cut down with injuries but he only played 30 games so its hard to say as the sample was too small.

 

[Cuzz09]

Actually Selwood came to the cats just after a terrible 2006 and Thompson was nearly sacked.

I reckon sliding doors moment had he been let go the Cats may not have done anything even with Selwood around.

U never know

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