Fevola Arrested?

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Kimp, I am not intentionally having a crack at the club. Obviously they are in a difficult situation. There are reasons to really have a go at building a case to dismiss him but there are also reasons to try and rehabilitate him.

My personal opinion as i have stated several times is that i believe the should look at sacking him if possible. If they don't well i can understand why but i believe the negative from having Fev at our club will continue to outweigh any potential positives.
 
acuguy said:
POBT, in my experience any employee with personal issues resulting in unprofessional behaviour would be forced to take leave immediately. At least the club has taken this measure.
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Of course. But requiring an employee to take indefinite leave and sacking them are poles apart. You can't really compare them.

My point remains - the guy might be having serious personal problems which renders him incapable of performing his duties. If his actions have given rise to a right of termination, then so be it. But that doesn't mean the employer has to proceed to sack the employee. A whole bunch of factors should be weighed up - including whether the person could return to being a productive contributor. As I said, from the outside looking in, I am leaning towards sacking him. But it is hardly as clear cut as some have made out.

As when we signed him, despite my misgivings, I do like the idea that my club might be the turning force in a wayward player's life. If we can turn Fev around and save him from himself, I would be immensely proud. But I can't help feel that that is a slightly idealistic view. The pragmatist in me says that he may be too big a risk to keep around.
 
Can't actually sack an employee while on sick leave, well not until they've been on unpaid sick leave for 3 months in any given year. Even then one has to be cautious

As to Fev, you'd have to be a harsh man to hope he doesn't sort himself out, and it would be great if he ends up having a gun year for you guys. Time will tell

The disappointing thing is that these drinking episodes happen time and again, and he just falls into the same trap the whole time - himself. The NY incident isn't actually a big deal, it's just that it comes on top of a number of other dumb acts

Let's hope he sorts it out and gets on track
 

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Antman78 said:
Just curious on the arrest but was Fev behavior so bad the police had to get involved i.e DND before hand or was it only an issue after the police approached did they contribute to the DND.

IMO he shouldn't be sacked for this, lions need to seen supporting Fev and not playing the heavy hand again, in the end Fev needs to change and club has to help him do it, atleast Voss telling the media to back off is a start.
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Brisbane can't afford the payout anyway. It counts under the salary cap. Not enough there to sack him outright without a payout. Papers can make a headline about a possible sacking but they're too brainless to take in account the legal aspect and difficulty of paying him out

Lions seems to be supporting his rehab, which is good.
 
The Exorcist said:
Can't actually sack an employee while on sick leave, well not until they've been on unpaid sick leave for 3 months in any given year. Even then one has to be cautious

As to Fev, you'd have to be a harsh man to hope he doesn't sort himself out, and it would be great if he ends up having a gun year for you guys. Time will tell

The disappointing thing is that these drinking episodes happen time and again, and he just falls into the same trap the whole time - himself. The NY incident isn't actually a big deal, it's just that it comes on top of a number of other dumb acts

Let's hope he sorts it out and gets on track
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Getting Fev to the club has cost the Lions greatly. They have committed a great deal of their salary cap to him causing/assisting the loss of 3 talented younger players. Fingers crossed Voss and Co can get Fev off the booze and on the park doing what he does best.

If Fev's days of AFL are already over then he is going to be a basket case with no hope of pulling himself back up. I must say that Fev has had far more chances than any man deserves. The guys is a fool of monumental proportions and I bet that the Lions wish that they had their time again at the trade table.

Either way, I hope that that Lions go well in the 2011 season. They were the best team that I have seen in my 40 years and they have always played and acted with integrity. It would be a shame for an outsider/new recruit to bring shame on such a club.
 
DockerLand1 said:
Either way, I hope that that Lions go well in the 2011 season. They were the best team that I have seen in my 40 years and they have always played and acted with integrity. It would be a shame for an outsider/new recruit to bring shame on such a club.
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Thank you DockerLand:)...and cheers for your club too, they were really good last year, so hope they can carry that over for this season...

Would love to see your Dockers win a flag..:thumbsu:
 
The Carlton hierarchy must be laughing their collective dicks off. AGAIN!
 
Ted38 said:
The Carlton hierarchy must be laughing their collective dicks off. AGAIN!
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Can't talk for everyone, but it's got to the point that it's rather sad all around.

I said it 16 months ago and I'll say it again: This is not going to end well and for that I am sorry for all that will get affected.
 
POBT said:
Of course. But requiring an employee to take indefinite leave and sacking them are poles apart. You can't really compare them.

My point remains - the guy might be having serious personal problems which renders him incapable of performing his duties. If his actions have given rise to a right of termination, then so be it. But that doesn't mean the employer has to proceed to sack the employee. A whole bunch of factors should be weighed up - including whether the person could return to being a productive contributor. As I said, from the outside looking in, I am leaning towards sacking him. But it is hardly as clear cut as some have made out.

As when we signed him, despite my misgivings, I do like the idea that my club might be the turning force in a wayward player's life. If we can turn Fev around and save him from himself, I would be immensely proud. But I can't help feel that that is a slightly idealistic view. The pragmatist in me says that he may be too big a risk to keep around.
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Isn't that the very reason that Carlton unloaded him?
To anyone with a reasonable level of commonsense it would appear that the guy is totally incorrigible and has had more that enough chances to get his life on track.
The sad irony of this whole saga, as far as it concerns the Brisbane Lions, is that your Recruiting Manager at the time when Fevola was drafted wouldn't consider him because of his dubious character and his propensity to get into trouble. Sadly his judgment has proven to be spot on.
The other interesting point is that while Voss continues to cop it for getting him to the Club the guy who had even more to do with it gets off free. Who is that? the illustrious Gubby Allan.
 
Ted38 said:
The other interesting point is that while Voss continues to cop it for getting him to the Club the guy who had even more to do with it gets off free. Who is that? the illustrious Gubby Allan.
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Gubby Allan doesn't get off scott free on this baord at least.

Most people can see what a number he did on us before he turncoated to GWS.
 
TheBrownDog said:
Gubby Allan doesn't get off scott free on this baord at least.

Most people can see what a number he did on us before he turncoated to GWS.
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It's a pity that the Club can't sue the prick, anyway what goes around comes around.
 

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I would like to have seen our captain standing beside our coach during that interview..

It would show a two pronged leadership, not just Vossy....also would like to have heard from him on all this..

...a show of strength and leadership..
 
Mr Ripper said:
If they are, they'd be more amoral than what anyone had ever imagined.
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It would be poor form if Blues' management was laughing over this, but as far as morality goes Voss knew what he was getting. Everyone knew that Fev had a chequered past, hence the Blues wanting to get rid of him and Voss being the only real bidder. Voss was even asked at the press conference at the time of the trade about Fev's past.

At day's end let's hope Fev can pull himself out of this and have a good 2011 for you guys.
 
dannitori said:
Studies show that divorce/seperation is the second most stressfull thing one can go through (First being death of spouse/child). People are forgetting that he is going through some tough personal issues right now.

I completely agree with you, in the 70's and 80's this would be a nothing story. The media these days are vultures. All out to make a quick buck on people's misery. Take Ben Cousins for example, the media feed on that bloke, turned him into a monster, then after that built him up as some matyr for the 'cured'.

Fact is, this has been made a mountain out of a molehole by the media, and the "Helen Lovejoys, Won't someone think of the children" types.

I wish all the best for Fev in rehab, I think he needs it and I would be extremely dissapointed if we turned our back on him now... we knew what we were getting when we picked him up.



Are Crows players still punching on at the Ramsgate? Pot. Kettle. Black.
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So people should feel sorry for Fevola over his divorce when he's a serious philanderer who pisses his family's money up against a wall and acts like an arseh*le when he's on the piss. The guy is almost 30 and in the twilight of his career, he'd better learn something from his stint in rehab or he'll be a washed up loser when his career finishes.
As for the cops arresting him over 'nothing', if you're a mouthy, drunk arseh*le the cops assume you'll get into a fight with some other pissed idiot so they arrest you.
 
10987654321 said:
So people should feel sorry for Fevola over his divorce when he's a serious philanderer who pisses his family's money up against a wall and acts like an arseh*le when he's on the piss. The guy is almost 30 and in the twilight of his career, he'd better learn something from his stint in rehab or he'll be a washed up loser when his career finishes.
As for the cops arresting him over 'nothing', if you're a mouthy, drunk arseh*le the cops assume you'll get into a fight with some other pissed idiot so they arrest you.
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spot on!
 
Aww go have a cup of tea and stop whining the story ended earlier today doesn't affect your lives so move on =).It was NYE ffs half the world was pissed or off there nutters =).
 
MacMum said:
I would like to have seen our captain standing beside our coach during that interview..

It would show a two pronged leadership, not just Vossy....also would like to have heard from him on all this..

...a show of strength and leadership..
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Would Browny possibly be on holidays? I know the players were back at training today but he is injured.
 
He started light training before Christmas I think,So don't know if it's with the group or not.
 
10987654321 said:
So people should feel sorry for Fevola over his divorce when he's a serious philanderer who pisses his family's money up against a wall and acts like an arseh*le when he's on the piss.
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so, if a man:

- cheats on his wife (afterwhich they reconcile and have another child together);

- gambles;

he deserves to be deprived of time with his 3 daughters without a hint of sympathy, and publicly ridiculed if he falls back onto a crutch like alcohol?

Can only speak for myself of course, but i do have some degree of sympathy. hope he gets the help he needs, regardless of whether he stays on our list.
 
notting18 said:
Would Browny possibly be on holidays? I know the players were back at training today but he is injured.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...ichael-voss-says/story-e6frf7jo-1225981278380

I watched this video report when I got home tonight and it clearly shows Brownie on the bike at the end of the footage, however whether that was taken today at Giffin Park I don't know. But I agree with TGL, the best thing atm is to have one person address this issue on behalf of the club. I though Vossy did a really good job.

And GG, well said :thumbsu:

After all, 'Brisbane Lions star forward Brendan Fevola is among 527 people arrested in Queensland during New Year's Eve celebrations.'

The full article - http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8190909/fevola-arrested-in-brisbane - makes me question the hysteria over this incident.

IMO the club should be doing exactly what it is doing - offering Brendan the support he needs and coming to a decision on his future with the Club in due course.
 

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