Firmers and Drifters

[swans16]

If Morabito is available at pick 5 North will take him according to B.Scott.He will not be going to WCE.

I thought North has stuck their claws in Cunnington?

 

[year of the cat]

Why has Allen Christensen drifted from possible top ten to late 2nd round at the earliest?

Its just my opinion but he reminds me of a better version of Matthew Stokes. I know I am underselling him but small blokes like him rarely get drafted high unless they have exceptional pace. Anyway time will tell but I see him as a slider.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

I reckon the Tigers will be looking to Vickery, Riewoldt, Post, Morton, maybe Rance and even promoting Gourdis as taller forwards, but needing another A class midfielder to go with Deledio, Cotchin and learn from Cousins whilst he's there.

5 years each for Frawley & Wallace have done nothing for the Tigers.

Personally after thinking about Richmonds situation, they won't give up Martin for exactly the same reasons you bring. Post will start to play forward IMO. I think they will be praying for Sheppard at pick 19. He could take over Rance's/Post's position as I think they will both play forward next year.

 

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

I'm not 100% sold on getting Tapscott with a top 10 pick, but if he's available at pick 16 and we don't take him I will not be happy.

Tapscott is not a top 16 pick for me - theres atleast 16 more players with more talent then him.

 

[EagleMan87]

Tapscott is not a top 16 pick for me - theres atleast 16 more players with more talent then him.

Tapscott is massively overrated, because he's big and he can kick it a mile.

I wouldn't even want him with picks 22/23, there'll be better players available even that deep in the draft.

 

[saxymaxy]

have some news on the draft...

Jetta will be an eagle

Carlton are tossing up between talia and black

Jasper Mcmillan-Pettard is looking likely to be a crow at 13

Kane lucas will slide to 14

Tapscott will be taken between 18 and 24

Panos will slide into the 30's

Ball will be a bomber at 26 or a lion at 27

West Coast will take Bartlett at 22 if available

Fremantle have nearly locked in T Taylor at 20



So having said that: this is my No explanations top25 draft, you can see explanation on my PD in the phantom drafts forum: (my draft on the PD forum is slightly different)

Melb - Trengove
Melb - Scully
Rich - Martin
Frem - Morabito
NM - Cunnington
Syd - Rohan
WCE - Jetta
Port - Butcher
Port - Talia
Ess - Melksham
Melb - Carslisle
Carl - Black
Adel - Mcmillan-Pettard
Syd - Lucas
Wb - Moore
Port - Stevens
Geel - Sheppard
Melb - Vardy
Rich - Bastinac
Frem - Taylor
NM - Tapscott
WCE - Bartlett
WCE - Gysbergs
Ess - Christenson
NM - Colyer

 

[tesseract]

Saxymaxy: All of your info is recycled from BF. I've read threads that contain these predictions. They aren't new developments.

 

[dima17]

FIRMERS:

1. josh thomas (mid to late second round)
2. alex carey (late second)
3. john butcher (too good to pass up - especially for someone like swans/north)


SLIDERS:
1. allen christensen (coz of his height and size i reckon - pies would take him at 30)
2. troy taylor (late second)

 

[dima17]

have some news on the draft...

Jetta will be an eagle

Carlton are tossing up between talia and black

Jasper Mcmillan-Pettard is looking likely to be a crow at 13

Kane lucas will slide to 14

Tapscott will be taken between 18 and 24

Panos will slide into the 30's

Ball will be a bomber at 26 or a lion at 27

West Coast will take Bartlett at 22 if available

Fremantle have nearly locked in T Taylor at 20



So having said that: this is my No explanations top25 draft, you can see explanation on my PD in the phantom drafts forum: (my draft on the PD forum is slightly different)

Melb - Trengove
Melb - Scully
Rich - Martin
Frem - Morabito
NM - Cunnington
Syd - Rohan
WCE - Jetta
Port - Butcher
Port - Talia
Ess - Melksham
Melb - Carslisle
Carl - Black
Adel - Mcmillan-Pettard
Syd - Lucas
Wb - Moore
Port - Stevens
Geel - Sheppard
Melb - Vardy
Rich - Bastinac
Frem - Taylor
NM - Tapscott
WCE - Bartlett
WCE - Gysbergs
Ess - Christenson
NM - Colyer

add to that...j.thomas to be at collingwood next year. straight from the horses mouth

 

[micky_11]

add to that...j.thomas to be at collingwood next year. straight from the horses mouth

North will jump the gun at 25

 

[Prem87]

Sounds about right with WC's picks.

 

[brandy1023]

have some news on the draft...

Jetta will be an eagle

Carlton are tossing up between talia and black

Jasper Mcmillan-Pettard is looking likely to be a crow at 13

Kane lucas will slide to 14

Tapscott will be taken between 18 and 24

Panos will slide into the 30's

Ball will be a bomber at 26 or a lion at 27

West Coast will take Bartlett at 22 if available

Fremantle have nearly locked in T Taylor at 20



So having said that: this is my No explanations top25 draft, you can see explanation on my PD in the phantom drafts forum: (my draft on the PD forum is slightly different)

Melb - Trengove
Melb - Scully
Rich - Martin
Frem - Morabito
NM - Cunnington
Syd - Rohan
WCE - Jetta
Port - Butcher
Port - Talia
Ess - Melksham
Melb - Carslisle
Carl - Black
Adel - Mcmillan-Pettard
Syd - Lucas
Wb - Moore
Port - Stevens
Geel - Sheppard
Melb - Vardy
Rich - Bastinac
Frem - Taylor
NM - Tapscott
WCE - Bartlett
WCE - Gysbergs
Ess - Christenson
NM - Colyer

Sheppard will be a Dog at pick 15, if Melksham and JMP are gone.

 

[chef]

Sheppard will be a Dog at pick 15, if Melksham and JMP are gone.

I would be happy with any of those three at pick 15

 

[INSANE]

for west coast:

black @ 7 a chance

weedon and or wanganeen @ 22/3

 

[new breed]

for west coast:

black @ 7 a chance

weedon and or wanganeen @ 22/3

Black to West Coast at pick 7 , media reports say only if Jetta goes to Sydney at pick 6 . West Coast and Jetta seem as good as done !

 

[halfman_halfroo]

In the next ten days there will be much speculation about which players are firming and which are drifting in the draft.

There are countless phantom drafts up at the moment and most have the same top 10 players but just shuffled around with a further group of 10-15 following. We have already seen this year John Butcher's rating drop from being a certain top 2 pick to now around the 5-9 mark. Similarly we have also seen Aaron Black become the late mover as Mitch Brown was last year to now being touted as a genuine top 12-15 pick.

Here is the thread to post any late movements either you think will happen or you have heard through the grapevine that may be on the cards.

For me - and I have absolutely no direct information to verify it - but going on feel as much as anything I reckon a few things may happen on draft day:

1. Luke Tapscott will drop to be taken between 19-23. In 80% of the phantoms I have read he is taken by either Adelaide or Port in the top 10 picks.

2. A couple of Geelong kids in Callum Bartlett and Jasper Mcmillan-Pittard will be late firmers. It has been speculated in afl.com.au about Barlett today but I reckon he may well go know between 12-17. JMP will be taken early in the second round.

3. Allen Christensen will be a mid to late 2nd round pick at the earliest.

What are you're late moves. Even if you have already posted phantoms what significant changes would you make now?

I hope Tom Scully falls, undeserving number 1.


he needs to be a four or five.

 

[coasting]

Black to West Coast at pick 7 , media reports say only if Jetta goes to Sydney at pick 6 . West Coast and Jetta seem as good as done !

Link to this media report?

 

[Go_Dogs]

Tapscott is massively overrated, because he's big and he can kick it a mile.

I wouldn't even want him with picks 22/23, there'll be better players available even that deep in the draft.

Why? It sounds kind of like Rich last year.

Just because he may have less scope for improvement than some of the other kids (and people are basing this solely on the fact he has a developed body, rather than anything else) people don't rate him that highly. He might not be in the top 10 best players 10 years after this draft, but there is a very good chance he'd be up there with the best first year players from the draft, and unless the club that drafts him has no development program (which of course, every club has) I don't see why he doesn't have similar scope for improvement when compared to other potential draftees.

I would be pretty surprised if he was not selected in the first 20 picks.

Just my two cents.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

add to that...j.thomas to be at collingwood next year. straight from the horses mouth

Sure thing. The top 5 isn't even settled but one player knows he's going to go to a club which doesn't have a pick until number 30

 

[new breed]

Link to this media report?

Monday noon Sports report on 6PR with none other then Kim Hagdorn .

I know dodgy material , but Sydney may pick Jetta at pick 6 as replacement in type for retirement of Mick O 'Loughlin . ??? Pure Speculation !

 

[EagleMan87]

Why? It sounds kind of like Rich last year.

Just because he may have less scope for improvement than some of the other kids (and people are basing this solely on the fact he has a developed body, rather than anything else) people don't rate him that highly. He might not be in the top 10 best players 10 years after this draft, but there is a very good chance he'd be up there with the best first year players from the draft, and unless the club that drafts him has no development program (which of course, every club has) I don't see why he doesn't have similar scope for improvement when compared to other potential draftees.

I would be pretty surprised if he was not selected in the first 20 picks.

Just my two cents.

I'd compare Tapscott's kicking to Matt Rosa; long kick, but not penetrating. Rich is more similar to Shannon Hurn in that he kicks the ball low and fast.

 

[THE_GUN]

have some news on the draft...

Jetta will be an eagle

Carlton are tossing up between talia and black

Jasper Mcmillan-Pettard is looking likely to be a crow at 13

Kane lucas will slide to 14

Tapscott will be taken between 18 and 24

Panos will slide into the 30's

Ball will be a bomber at 26 or a lion at 27

West Coast will take Bartlett at 22 if available

Fremantle have nearly locked in T Taylor at 20



So having said that: this is my No explanations top25 draft, you can see explanation on my PD in the phantom drafts forum: (my draft on the PD forum is slightly different)

Melb - Trengove
Melb - Scully
Rich - Martin
Frem - Morabito
NM - Cunnington
Syd - Rohan
WCE - Jetta
Port - Butcher
Port - Talia
Ess - Melksham
Melb - Carslisle
Carl - Black
Adel - Mcmillan-Pettard
Syd - Lucas
Wb - Moore
Port - Stevens
Geel - Sheppard
Melb - Vardy
Rich - Bastinac
Frem - Taylor
NM - Tapscott
WCE - Bartlett
WCE - Gysbergs
Ess - Christenson
NM - Colyer

i would love for your predictions to be correct from a richmond supporters standpoint it would mean.
3.martin
19.tapscott
35.panos

all that we would nees after that is gawn at 44

 

[curiousLplater]

Kennedy to be gone by the end of the 2nd round

 

[Blueboys7]

Kennedy to be gone by the end of the 2nd round

Concurred

 

[Go_Dogs]

I'd compare Tapscott's kicking to Matt Rosa; long kick, but not penetrating. Rich is more similar to Shannon Hurn in that he kicks the ball low and fast.

Sorry, I probably should have been a bit clearer - I wasn't comparing his kicking to Rich (besides that they are both known as big kicks) more so the comparison of why people feel Tapscott may slide - due to his developed body which for some reason translates into no scope for improvement (or less than others).

Hurn also had a very developed body and slid quite a way compared to where he probably should have been selected - probably again due to his apparent lack of scope for improvement.

If anything, I'd take it as a clear demonstration of their ability and desire to work hard in the weights room, and it would probably increase a potential draftee's standing in my eyes. Especially for a private school kid like Tapscott.