Earliest Blues would realistically be ready is 2022 season.
Essendon while unlikely, could snag one before then. They have the right age list profile and who knows what they'll turn the Daniher picks into?
First club to 17 premierships?
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Essendon while unlikely, could snag one before then. They have the right age list profile and who knows what they'll turn the Daniher picks into?
Going to say Collingwood.
Carlton and Essendons lean periods will have to end eventually though. Just like Richmond's did. But I'm backing this current Pies side to get one and then it's 16 all and anyone's game.
Carlton and Essendons lean periods will have to end eventually though. Just like Richmond's did. But I'm backing this current Pies side to get one and then it's 16 all and anyone's game.
I want to believe this, but does it really?
St Kilda have won one in their entire existence, the rest is a "lean period". Same as Freo.
I don't think it's likely we'll be stuck on 16 for another 50 years, but it is possible.
I believe football department spending and such is important and both those clubs are a bit like Richmond about 10 years ago - only at a fraction of their potential but still well placed in that regard.
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Collingwood is probably most likely out of the top 3, but who knows with Carlton in the next 5 years.
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Surprised Carlton actually have 16 wtf!! They're on a Richmond like draught prior to 2017. When did you win them all when there was 4 teams and rest fighting in world war 1 & 2 lol.
Collingwood will get there first without a dought!
After 30 AFL flags Hawks have got 5, O flags Melbourne, Saints, North from lots in 30 seasons, 0 for Freo is lesser seasons & GWS and Suns from even shots .....
Even Cornesy has got one
Why the first to ‘17,’ is it some sort of magic number?
True, although it was not that long ago that Hawthorn had 8 to get and Carlton/Essendon had 1.
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Who knows?
Obviously the closer you are the less you need to win.
Right now I'd guess the Tigers could win another 2 (??). If the kids coming through are as good as they have looked might pinch another flag with an old Dusty. So that'd make 15. Where the other 2 come from I have no idea.
However, if we do make 17 first you won't find me complaining.
Obviously the closer you are the less you need to win.
Right now I'd guess the Tigers could win another 2 (??). If the kids coming through are as good as they have looked might pinch another flag with an old Dusty. So that'd make 15. Where the other 2 come from I have no idea.
However, if we do make 17 first you won't find me complaining.
lol. fair callWho knows?
Obviously the closer you are the less you need to win.
Right now I'd guess the Tigers could win another 2 (??). If the kids coming through are as good as they have looked might pinch another flag with an old Dusty. So that'd make 15. Where the other 2 come from I have no idea.
However, if we do make 17 first you won't find me complaining.
Thread should be renamed 'first to 23 premierships' once the great Stephen Hocking gets his way and adds premierships back to 1870 in the official tally. Carlton the front runner with 22. 
Won't happen as there will be too much outcry from Hawks (aka Geelong's arch rivals)Thread should be renamed 'first to 23 premierships' once the great Stephen Hocking gets his way and adds premierships back to 1870 in the official tally. Carlton the front runner with 22.
Won't happen because it's an absurd idea.
Fair enough. I don't it's going to happen but wouldn't call it absurd.
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Two horse race between Richmond and Hawthorn
It’s really only between Essendon, Carlton and Collingwood.
Collingwood looks the most likely to win a flag first of those 3, they are Currenty one of the better teams and could win one in the next year or two with a fair bit of luck and everything goes their way, but there are still three or four better teams than them at the moment. Even if they win one I can’t see them winning another with their current crop to make it 17.
Essendon appear to be in no mans land to me. They are a reasonable side straddling in the middle part of the ladder who are not a real threat for the flag. They are not rebuilding, but are not a threat either.
Carlton are my tip for the first to 17. They are just coming of a rebuild and are now ready to start climbing up the ladder with the maturity of their draftees over the years and the anticipated recruits this off season. They should be in real contention in 2-3 years imo. Obviously there is no certainty of them achieving the ultimate success, but at the moment they are the most likely.
Collingwood looks the most likely to win a flag first of those 3, they are Currenty one of the better teams and could win one in the next year or two with a fair bit of luck and everything goes their way, but there are still three or four better teams than them at the moment. Even if they win one I can’t see them winning another with their current crop to make it 17.
Essendon appear to be in no mans land to me. They are a reasonable side straddling in the middle part of the ladder who are not a real threat for the flag. They are not rebuilding, but are not a threat either.
Carlton are my tip for the first to 17. They are just coming of a rebuild and are now ready to start climbing up the ladder with the maturity of their draftees over the years and the anticipated recruits this off season. They should be in real contention in 2-3 years imo. Obviously there is no certainty of them achieving the ultimate success, but at the moment they are the most likely.
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I wouldn’t put Richmond or Hawthorn as an option in the poll. I think they are a bit too far out if we look at the states of their lists in comparison to the Premierships they won to date. One had a successful era recently (Hawthorn) with a stack of talent and may need a bit too much talent added to the current list to get to 17 Premierships first.
Richmond have a lot of core players approaching 30 (at least 2 or so years out at the end of next year) or are above 30 already. To name them, it’s Grimes, Rance, Riewoldt, Cotchin, Edwards, Houli, Martin, Astbury, Lambert, Pickett and Prestia. That’s pretty much the top end of our best 22 with the exception of Pickett. The likelihood of Richmond getting to 17 Premierships first would be slim in my opinion because of this reason. If we wanted to do that, then we probably needed to win a couple of Premierships during the 2013 - 2016 era as well as our current Premierships.
Melbourne might given the age profile of their core, but it’s highly unlikely since they’re so far out.
I think it may end up being Carlton. Did a proper rebuild and got talent through. Once they mature (like Brisbane’s talent), I can see them getting to 17 Premierships first unless Essendon get their act together and do something meaningful in the next 2 or so years.
Richmond have a lot of core players approaching 30 (at least 2 or so years out at the end of next year) or are above 30 already. To name them, it’s Grimes, Rance, Riewoldt, Cotchin, Edwards, Houli, Martin, Astbury, Lambert, Pickett and Prestia. That’s pretty much the top end of our best 22 with the exception of Pickett. The likelihood of Richmond getting to 17 Premierships first would be slim in my opinion because of this reason. If we wanted to do that, then we probably needed to win a couple of Premierships during the 2013 - 2016 era as well as our current Premierships.
Melbourne might given the age profile of their core, but it’s highly unlikely since they’re so far out.
I think it may end up being Carlton. Did a proper rebuild and got talent through. Once they mature (like Brisbane’s talent), I can see them getting to 17 Premierships first unless Essendon get their act together and do something meaningful in the next 2 or so years.
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Yes, it is. It’s Captain Blood’s number.
And I guess it will also be the first time a team has led outright since 2000 but that’s beside the point.
Bit more optimistic - thinking 2021 is a reasonable chance for a Carlton premiership - basing this on Hawthorn 2008 and Bulldogs 2016 - you never know your luck! I'm expecting a very good year next year - so much has fallen / is falling into place - and looking at a top 4-6 finish.
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When I was a wildly optimistic young lad thinking about our young stars coming through- Cotchin, Martin Edwards etc around 2011, I put us down for making the 8 in 12, the 4 in 13 and proper contention from 14-15.
Went a bit early as I think you are now.
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Picked Richmond but being optimistic.
Would be rapt with another flag.
Would be rapt with another flag.
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