Player Watch Fischer McAsey - Steps Away from Football, Not Returning

[beartoo]

Feel for the kid. Hope things work out OK for him.

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[spenze]

I feel for Fischer here because while it was horrible drafting by us on a number of fronts, it's not Fischer's fault we drafted him.

I can't imagine it would feel good when things aren't working knowing that the club which drafted you also used the highest pick in years and was embarking on a full scale rebuild where this pick was a key piece of it.

Then things start to collapse off field with his family health issues and Covid

Hamish needs to take accountability for his huge drafting error but I wish Fischer all the best in his life beyond football

The club needs to do the right thing and move him on but the way things are going with the club, he'll fail upwards and take Kellys role

 

[GROTTO]

I feel for Fischer here because while it was horrible drafting by us on a number of fronts, it's not Fischer's fault we drafted him.

+1

I blame at the AFC here, the talent after that pick would have fast tracked our rebuild. Throw a dart blindfolded and we could have picked some real talent.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

Someone on reddit saying that carlton had genuine interest in him until they interviewed him. And they were concerned with the lack passion to further his career.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

In his first year he look pretty good, taking good marks and moving well. I think he could have made a pretty good go of it actually but his Dad, COVID and mental health issues meant he never really fired much after the first season.

Nothing wrong with having a crack, KP players are worth a crack if they look good, Filthy and other previous ones are examples

Unfortunately Haggis has had a few recent failures at the top with Fish, Gallucci and Jones. Gallucci was as accomplished as McHenry but got ditched and Jones is building so not a right off yet...

Yep ones that Haggis thought might be of great character eg Galluci and McAsey might not have had the mettle for AFL

Hope they are reviewing this part of what they do at least as much as the talent ID

 

[Sphynx]

To be fair, I did watch some Durdin games on free to air tv while he was in the NM VFL team (keeping an eye on players who we could bring home), and no one would argue he showed more than McAsey has.

He was really exposed for having issues as a one-on-one tall defender at that age. Not sure that's massively changed, but at least he's physically more impactful now.

I think McAsey showed more at his underage year, but he's also had a bigger drop off.

I'm not sure anyone would take McAsey until he at least went away and showed that he had gotten his head right. I'm not convinced McAsey would play again in lower levels, anyway.

Durdin didn’t have issues with one on one defending, it was arguably his strength.

He’s got small hands and is a terrible mark of the footy for a tall player, Regularly dropped soda’s and double grabs essentially everything.

He was an above average VFL player, as good as Ben McKay at times who he partnered with for plenty of footy at Werribee.

 

[George Kramer]

Literally Butts and Murray on our very own playing list have proven this.

It won't be, but this should be the final nail in the Hamish coffin.

Yep ones that Haggis thought might be of great character eg Galluci and McAsey might not have had the mettle for AFL

Hope they are reviewing this part of what they do at least as much as the talent ID

He talked up Levers character a fair bit too

 

[George Kramer]

Someone on reddit saying that carlton had genuine interest in him until they interviewed him. And they were concerned with the lack passion to further his career.

C4[2]Yo`DooR you mentioned early on Carlton weren’t getting McAsey and Sholl, anything you can share?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Durdin didn’t have issues with one on one defending, it was arguably his strength.

He’s got small hands and is a terrible mark of the footy for a tall player, Regularly dropped soda’s and double grabs essentially everything.

He was an above average VFL player, as good as Ben McKay at times who he partnered with for plenty of footy at Werribee.

From what I’ve seen Mcasey is a much better talent but nowhere near reaching it and only time will tell if that’s what he wants to do

Durdin was a shocker but as a stopper can do a role at a lower level and has a bit more athleticism

 

[crow2crow]

I know the idea has been thrown around a few times on here, but is it time we give Himmelberg some exposure to playing as a KPD?

He's not cracking in to the forward line ahead of Thilthorpe.

Behind Butts and Murray we have no pure KPD so we need to get creative for this season.

and Murray is not proven AFL standard yet

 

[John Who]

I just want to remind people that McAsey isn’t being delisted, but retiring due to mental illness. He isn’t seeking AFL opportunities elsewhere. There is a clear distinction between a dud player who can’t get an AFL gig and a potential AFL player who’s mind has been messed up due to life’s circumstances.

Why the need to hang his retirement and blame it all on Hamish/club? If McAsey retires due to concussion or severe physical condition, do we blame the club too?

Was he a bad pick? In hindsight, yes. Was he a dud from day 1? I think this is something that no one can know how much of the mental illness has impacted his footy development, only except McAsey himself. But for some on here to ignore the fact mental illness can affect peak performances is showing superficial awareness of what mental illness is all about.

 

[crow2crow]

Can be added to the list as a SSP now that McAsey is on the inactive list

personally doubt it
and he is not a key defender if you've watched pies play much

 

[cleanhands]

I just want to remind people that McAsey isn’t being delisted, but retiring due to mental illness. He isn’t seeking AFL opportunities elsewhere. There is a clear distinction between a dud player who can’t get an AFL gig and a potential AFL player who’s mind has been messed up due to life’s circumstances.

Why the need to hang his retirement and blame it all on Hamish/club? If McAsey retires due to concussion or severe physical condition, do we blame the club too?

Was he a bad pick? In hindsight, yes. Was he a dud from day 1? I think this is something that no one can know how much of the mental illness has impacted his footy development, only except McAsey himself. But for some on here to ignore the fact mental illness can affect peak performances is showing superficial awareness of what mental illness is all about.

Did it state due to mental health haven’t read all the reports yet?

 

[John Who]

Did it state due to mental health haven’t read all the reports yet?

I read the articles as though it was implied the retirement was from mental health issues. Nobody retires this young without a major physical and/or mental aspect. I think it’s a fair assumption even if no specifics are mentioned, particularly when there has been no reports of major physical injuries.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Did it state due to mental health haven’t read all the reports yet?

Wording seems to be "walked away from the game" due to "lost passion to play and perform at the elite level"

 

[cleanhands]

Wording seems to be "walked away from the game" due to "lost passion to play and perform at the elite level"

How I read it

 

[1990crow]

Wording seems to be "walked away from the game" due to "lost passion to play and perform at the elite level"

That speaks to our player profiling needs to be turned upside down

 

[Sphynx]

From what I’ve seen Mcasey is a much better talent but nowhere near reaching it and only time will tell if that’s what he wants to do

Durdin was a shocker but as a stopper can do a role at a lower level and has a bit more athleticism

Durdin was as highly rated as McAsay as a kid, North was lauded for landing the “slider” of the draft when we got him.

He was a nice size, good mover, good tank, brave enough, decent enough leg speed and an excellent kick for a tall defender.

He just can’t mark the football, which is a real problem in modern football with the game built around intercept marks and possessions.

It’s why he’s been tried so much in the ruck over the years throughout all levels.

He definately wasn’t a “shocker”, some North fans would still have him.

He certainly was/is a good VFL player hence why he’s back in the AFL system.

 

[George Kramer]

I just want to remind people that McAsey isn’t being delisted, but retiring due to mental illness. He isn’t seeking AFL opportunities elsewhere. There is a clear distinction between a dud player who can’t get an AFL gig and a potential AFL player who’s mind has been messed up due to life’s circumstances.

Why the need to hang his retirement and blame it all on Hamish/club? If McAsey retires due to concussion or severe physical condition, do we blame the club too?

Was he a bad pick? In hindsight, yes. Was he a dud from day 1? I think this is something that no one can know how much of the mental illness has impacted his footy development, only except McAsey himself. But for some on here to ignore the fact mental illness can affect peak performances is showing superficial awareness of what mental illness is all about.

He was slow and lacked mobility from the first U23 trial game he played. That’s not mental health but physical.

 

[Dangerousfield]

So after a hundred pages of posters talking him up/talking him down and debating use of pick 6 on him, we can now definitely and irrefutably say -

McAsey is a high first round BUST, to add to our collection of first round busts.

In time, I feel Jones and McHenry will be added to this sad list, the former no footy smarts, the latter no real skill. Both will be pushed to SANFL as other players go past them.

 

[StickerMan]

and Murray is not proven AFL standard yet

I am a Murray fan.

Still raw but I am pretty comfortable in his ability to perform at the level.

 

[1990crow]

So after a hundred pages of posters talking him up/talking him down and debating use of pick 6 on him, we can now definitely and irrefutably say -

McAsey is a high first round BUST, to add to our collection of first round busts.

In time, I feel Jones and McHenry will be added to this sad list, the former no footy smarts, the latter no real skill. Both will be pushed to SANFL as other players go past them.

Blowing 4 first round picks should be enough for Ogilvie to be sacked.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Durdin was as highly rated as McAsay as a kid, North was lauded for landing the “slider” of the draft when we got him.

He was a nice size, good mover, good tank, brave enough, decent enough leg speed and an excellent kick for a tall defender.

He just can’t mark the football, which is a real problem in modern football with the game built around intercept marks and possessions.

It’s why he’s been tried so much in the ruck over the years throughout all levels.

He definately wasn’t a “shocker”, some North fans would still have him.

He certainly was/is a good VFL player hence why he’s back in the AFL system.

I watched a fair bit of both at U18s and McAsey was a fair bit better than Durdin at that level with performances … actually no comparison

I actually couldn’t believe Durdin went 1st round so I didn’t see him as a slider at all

I guess I got Durdin right and McAsey wrong

 

[kirky]

Really went out on a limb there

Well the killer punch was none of the Vic clubs wanted him.

Seriously, we would have taken a packet of crisps for him.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I am a Murray fan.

Still raw but I am pretty comfortable in his ability to perform at the level.

Yep Murray was our best performed shutdown tall defender last season

Is still very raw so I see more upside

Has real power and love his competitiveness

Can see him taking more marks as he gets more experienced too