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Preview Foley out; please explain?
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Petterd can hold his head up high after last week. Played a good game.
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I must have been at the wrong game
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No balls journos, Wilson will get an official explanation
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Wil
Will the real petered lover please stand up?
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For the record, I don't think Petterd ever deserves his spot, and I remain puzzled how you've found a Petterd reference in my post. This was about Foley vs Tuck - both have their deficiencies but Tuck is a beast.
In hindsight Foley would have been very handy when we were getting destroyed out of the middle in the second half.
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I normally don't have time for ******* trolls but considering you have only made less than 9 posts i'll be nice, just this once, as it appears you are passionate, wrong, but passionate about this topic.
Petterd had 16 disposals, 5 marks, a goal, disposal efficiency of 94% with 4 1%ers. Only 2 Richmond players had more 1%ers on the field and no player had a better disposal efficiency. You'd have to be an absolute moron to have selected Nathan Foley as a medium sized defender/attacker to take his place considering Foley has never played outside of the midfield in his life.
As I said in the pre-game and numerous other threads, I personally would have selected Nathan Foley ahead of one of Jake King or Shane Edwards. Before Shane Tuck and possibly before Grigg but I am not at training, I am not a doctor and I am not sitting in with their structural meetings.
Why didn't we select Foley before Conca? You appear to like hindsight so why not bring that up?
All the ****** muppets in this thread who think Nathan Foley was in competition for Petterds spot need to go and learn something about footy. Why don't we just select 22 midfielders round 1 next year? See how that goes?
And don't come in here looking for blame when this was clearly not the issue.
Issues:
1. Accountability and no defense when Judd was going nuts
2. Actually trying and not resting in the 3 weeks leading up to the game
3. Conca getting injured
4. Not being fit or courageous enough to work as hard as the blues on the day
5. Selecting 2 ineffectual small forwards in King/Edwards, which hasn't worked all year
6. Inexperience
7. Luck
8. Injuries to Arnott/White
So STFU
Sorry Cotcho but I think not playing foley was a complete **** up by Hardwick and match commitee.
As for Petterd, he must have some good photos. Doesn't deserve a spot on our bloody list.
As for Petterd, he must have some good photos. Doesn't deserve a spot on our bloody list.
Cotcho I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Petterd was not filling a defender or forwards spot he was taking a spot from a midfielder.
We had Rance, Chaplin and Grimes down back and A.Edwards, Vickery and Riewoldt up forward. We had Houli, Morris, Vlastuin as small defenders, and King, Edwards and a resting midfielder or Chris Newman as a forward. We were not lacking Defensive or Attacking players, we were lacking midfielders. Once Conca went down the decision to not play Foley lost us the game because we lost the game in the midfield no where else.
Also if you watched the game pay attention to the lack of influence a guy like Petterd has on the game when Carlton are ****ing murdering you in the middle, and then think what a guy who is a clearance and tackling specialist would have done....
It was a poor selection and I blame the coach for the loss!
We had Rance, Chaplin and Grimes down back and A.Edwards, Vickery and Riewoldt up forward. We had Houli, Morris, Vlastuin as small defenders, and King, Edwards and a resting midfielder or Chris Newman as a forward. We were not lacking Defensive or Attacking players, we were lacking midfielders. Once Conca went down the decision to not play Foley lost us the game because we lost the game in the midfield no where else.
Also if you watched the game pay attention to the lack of influence a guy like Petterd has on the game when Carlton are ****ing murdering you in the middle, and then think what a guy who is a clearance and tackling specialist would have done....
It was a poor selection and I blame the coach for the loss!
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I don't disagree that Foley non-selection was a mistake. But Petterd more than held his own...as he has all year and plays in a completely different position. What did Shane Edwards do to come straight into the side? What did he do on the day? Why all the Petterd hate? Because he has bad disposal?....well evidently not on last weeks stats AND HE"S BEEN PLAYING IN THE JOSH GIBSON 3RD TALL ROLE WHICH FOLEY CANNOT DO!!!!!!!
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Only following Conca going down did Petterd have to push up and play more of a midfielders role. Yes I would have preferred Foley at that point...but Conca getting injured in the first could not be predicted. And guess what...If King and Edwards weren't so useless and could actually hold their own in the midfield Petterd could have been left in the role he was selected to play
I would agree that other players played worse especially Sheds but Grimes took Petterds spot and then Petterd took Foley's spot. We have only played about 2-3 games this year with more than 3 mid/tall forwards and defenders, and I don't think the results have been good.
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Ok well lets go back to before the game, rewind time....
Zip....
We now exist in a universe where Foley is selected and Ricky Petterd misses out
Fast forward to end of first quarter....Steven Morris courageous as ever gets concussion and is subbed out of the game, Conca remains fine...remember we now exist in a universe where everything is difference since the different selection prior to the game.
Who now plays on Garlett, Yarren, Betts? Jeezzz Ricky Petterd's versatility would be good to play as a small defender.
Lets go again....rewind
Zip....
Back in the first quarter....this time Jack Riewoldt re-injured problem knee and back, Conca and Morris remain fine...remember we now exist in a another knew and separate universe.
Jeez Ricky Petterd was handy as a 3rd tall forward target to go with Edwards, Vickery and our midfield held their own.
Don't you understand now?
Who knew our deep midfield was going to get smashed for the first time all year? Jack had injury cloud....we pick a versatile player...OBVIOUSLY! Who knew Conca would go down? Who knew we would be less fit and ready than them considering we had a softish run leading into the finals.
The selection and planning made sense for the clouds over existing players and given the trends of all year. Nothing at all pointes to the fact that we would lack midfield depth...it's bee our strength all year.
In hindsight we could have used another midfielder....but if we are using hindsight why not get rid of Sheds considering Petterd had a good game?
I seriously don't understand the logic of this thread at all.
And for all we know Foley was not 100%!!!!!!
Irrespective of Foley's selection, I thought Petterd added very little to the side last Sunday. I'd also say he was reasonably consistent in doing so most of the season.
I hope we're seriously looking for an upgrade on him during the coming trade period. And a couple of others.
I hope we're seriously looking for an upgrade on him during the coming trade period. And a couple of others.
I never said Foley in for Petterd.
I am saying, Foley should have been in and Petterd shouldn't be on our list.
I am saying, Foley should have been in and Petterd shouldn't be on our list.
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