Footscray vs Carlton 17th June 7:35pm @ Ikon Park

[DognBones]

A very lacklustre effort in that quarter. Lack of run, lack of teamwork, poor ball-handling and allowing Blues players to be first to the ball in contests. Disappointing.

 

[Bulldogs85]

That quarter was frustrating to watch.

Sullivan turning it over after Bedendo's great mark which lead to a carltank goal.

Cordy turning it over just before the siren.

Sullivan turned it over a few times

 

[glenashley]

This is why we need to get the decent kids into the seniors.

VFL is killing them

 

[goodcop badcop]

Yeah Bedendos disposal is a bit shaky at times but I think it’s solid enough to go with his strengths. Garcia is a bit of a worry because his disposal is genuinely terrile most of the time and a real liability - he does everything else right though so who knows. I think he either needs to make it as a genuine Libba like in and under or maybe a FP bull chained to the forward line sort of like late career Clay Smith. I think West has more upside as a similar type though

Oh I think Bendendo will make it, I don't think his disposal is bad. It's something that may be holding him back from debuting at the moment though.

Garcia really needs to hit the scoreboard a lot more.

 

[NBates]

Wow.. commentator's just said Carlton haven't beaten us at this level (vfa/vfl) for 130 years!

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Told ya. Record trashed.

 

[DognBones]

We are going from bad to worse. Blues giving us a lesson in team football.

 

[Bulldoge]

Told ya. Record trashed.

Yep, shouldn't have brought it up

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[W W Biscuit]

Wow, this is a really insipid performance. We look lazy and unmotivated. I hope that the flu has ripped through the club this week, because that's the only excuse for this lamentable effort.

 

[Randomthoughts]

What a Crocker to watcha

 

[DognBones]

It's obvious Hunter has not worked on his disposal during his break.

 

[ScragCity]

It's obvious Hunter has not worked on his disposal during his break.

And here i was thinking that the reason he was on leave was to go to a 12-week intensive skills bootcamp

 

[BIG_BONTS]

Is there a strong correlation between AFL and VFL teams winning flags at the same time? One way to assess our depth. Not sounding great for this year

 

[BIG_BONTS]

How's Bruce going?

 

[doggies ftw]

Yeah terrrrrible team performance but overall happy enough with what I’ve seen from the players I actually think have a future.

Bruce looks fit, Hunter been sloppy but efforts there which is the main thing from him - a run in the legs for both of them.

Darcy has me sold on his future - he’s obviously gonna take some time but he looks like an elite tall prospect to my eyes. Bedendo too - these are the two A grade prospects out of our seniors team right now. I think they both have huge futures.

Arty is extremely raw and no where near it at the moment but the little things he does here and there stand out as a player who has something just a little special - will never be a star or a high output type but definitely has a future, should be a pretty handy impact HFF/Wing imo

Pretty dominant ruckmans game from Sweet, not sure if the Carlton ruckman is much chop though. I like him, he is what he is, just a solid genuine ruck - I’m sure he could play AFL for some club and have an impact at the level but probably not us as we don’t really rate that from a ruck. I see him as a Soldo ceiling type, only going to get harder for him to get a game as Darcy comes on but hopefully he’s happy to stay around as back up as we could do a lot lot worse.

Cordy, Croz, Wally and Rourke really shouldn’t play unless there’s plenty of injuries but you know what you’re going to get from them if needed

And I can’t really see a future for Raak (still got time on his side though) and Butler.

It’s a shocking standard of footy and must be hard to look good - don’t worry about the results just look at the individual performances and move on…

 

[dergert]

Has Jones been playing forward this game?

 

[dergert]

13 marks to Sam Darcy

 

[Bulldogs85]

Hopefully Bedendo makes his AFL debut soon he’s developing nicely

 

[VogonProsthetnic]

Garcia not bad considering first game back. His tackling is a feature.

 

[hatescaptcha]

Everytime I’ve seen Darcy play he has impressed me. Ripping mark already, gets into the right positions and is just a generally classy and smart footballer. Looks composed.


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[gordo2016]

Doggies ftw hits the nail on the head. You are just looking for glimpes from players who look like they have the talent to come into the AFL side and have an impact. Reckon the VFL side tries really hard, but no chemistry, keep turning the ball over because of sub par skills and constantly look under the pump and second guess themselves. Coach had them firing last year but different side this year and hasn't got the cattle. Not pretty to watch this team, but good to pick out a few players who are close to AFL selection and see how they go about it in tough circumstances. Would be a ******* nightmare playing as a key forward in that side.

 

[dogwatch]

Very ordinary performance. 3 goals in the first 10 minutes then 5 for the rest of the match, to the Blues' 11.

Poor disposal, poor defence (Carlton just chipped and marked too easily all night), poor shooting for goal, plenty of goals conceded in red time, too many turnovers, too much fumbling of ground balls.

It was striking switching from the VFL match over to the senior game (StK v Ess) to see how much cleaner the ball handling was, even if it was under the roof.

• Darcy might be getting closer to a debut. That should be an incentive for Marra and Schache to produce their best tomorrow.
• Bedendo is nearly ready for a game in the ones.
• Feeling a bit sad for Crozier. Started well but quieter as the game went on.
• Wallis didn't impress.
• Garcia was good for his first game back after about 6 weeks out. I like him. He's always getting involved even if he doesn't have the silky skills.
• Arty Jones not ready yet but showed a few flashes of talent. Has to get more than 9 disposals playing the role he does.
• Hunter got a lot of it but butchered it a lot too. Should be straight into the seniors next week though.
• Cordy was fairly solid but didn't do enough to get a promotion in my book (unless there's an injury).
• Not a fan of Butler.
• Sweet OK in the ruck contests but as usual not terribly effective around the ground.
• Bruce 3 kicks for 3 goals. Competed OK but hardly a dominant performance. That might be enough given his known ability but if Schache and/or Ugle-Hagen go well tomorrow they might give him one more game in the twos.
• Roarke competed well all night but just workmanlike.
• Raak OK but a fair way off a game in the seniors yet.

 

[flipper83]

Yeah terrrrrible team performance but overall happy enough with what I’ve seen from the players I actually think have a future.

Bruce looks fit, Hunter been sloppy but efforts there which is the main thing from him - a run in the legs for both of them.

Darcy has me sold on his future - he’s obviously gonna take some time but he looks like an elite tall prospect to my eyes. Bedendo too - these are the two A grade prospects out of our seniors team right now. I think they both have huge futures.

Arty is extremely raw and no where near it at the moment but the little things he does here and there stand out as a player who has something just a little special - will never be a star or a high output type but definitely has a future, should be a pretty handy impact HFF/Wing imo

Pretty dominant ruckmans game from Sweet, not sure if the Carlton ruckman is much chop though. I like him, he is what he is, just a solid genuine ruck - I’m sure he could play AFL for some club and have an impact at the level but probably not us as we don’t really rate that from a ruck. I see him as a Soldo ceiling type, only going to get harder for him to get a game as Darcy comes on but hopefully he’s happy to stay around as back up as we could do a lot lot worse.

Cordy, Croz, Wally and Rourke really shouldn’t play unless there’s plenty of injuries but you know what you’re going to get from them if needed

And I can’t really see a future for Raak (still got time on his side though) and Butler.

It’s a shocking standard of footy and must be hard to look good - don’t worry about the results just look at the individual performances and move on…

Re Sweets game, Alex Mirkov is very skinny and raw and I'm pretty sure he didn't start playing football until he was 18. Sweet only won the hitouts by 4. Sweets issue is that he doesn't win enough hitouts to hang his hat on being a tap ruckman, do enough around the ground to be an extra mid ruckman or do enough forward to be a forward/ruck. At this stage, as you said, he is just a backup. Hopefully he can develop but I'm not sure he has any elite quality which probably limits his chances.

 

[Dog 36]

Hunter got a lot of it but butchered it a lot too. Should be straight into the seniors next week though.

Not sure he goes straight into seniors with how you saw his game unless iHunter is replacing another butcher of the ball like McComb

 

[DognBones]

There was something very off with that performance last night. Perhaps it was a case of more available listed players not gelling with the Footscray players. That doesn't excuse poor games from Wallis, Smith and Cordy. Carlton players were allowed to run out of our forward line without any pressure all night, our midfielders lacked intensity and the backs were often beaten one-on-one.
As mentioned by others, Bedendo looks near a call up and should be given some opportunities before season's end; Darcy is improving but may find the physicality of senior football beyond him this year, Jones is light year's away from senior football IMO, fumbles too often and plays out-rider too often, that's why he only gets a handful of disposals; Garcia is a very hard worker, his kicks lack penetration and his size may count against him in the seniors but he is worth retaining as a developing player.
Wasn't very impressed with any of our listed players but Bruce kicked a few from limited opportunities and being double-teamed. He won't be in the VFL for long. Hunter was his frustrating usual self: got plenty of the ball but few disposals counted for much. His promotion is probably only a week away because his two-way running is missed in the seniors.

 

[Bulldog Joe]

Not sure what everyone is expecting, but the stats for Darcy are pretty misleading.

While he got plenty of ball, it was mostly being used in a switch being the receiver for uncontested marks. He does use it well generally, but I want to see him win it in a contest, or at least spoil an opponent.

He seemed to get beaten every time he was left one out. He also needs to seriously work on his speed as he is easily left behind by every opponent.

While I think he will come good, he would be a seriously liability in the ones at this point.