Moved Thread For non vic fans who disdain the AFL competition

[WillHayward]

Stupid OP.

It's like people saying if you don't like Scott Morrison then you should leave the country.

The AFL has a monopoly and is a quasi religion.
The people running it know this and exploit it.
Same reason monopolies like electricity companies are regulated.
I think McLachlan is a complete campaigner.
He does personal deals with betting companies. Goyder is obviously personally connected with Coles.

It's valid to criticise leadership and not just worship them and let them shit all over you and shit on the game for their personal gain.

Because U hate the leaders and hate some of the decisions doesn't mean you hate the sport
People are nuanced enough to be able to separate the two.

You can love the sport and criticise the leaders.

 

[EagleMan87]

OP is either baiting or incredibly narrow-minded.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I still watch because I want to see Vic lose,

So this is the whole and sole reason you follow the league? And why is that so important?

 

[Port 2004]

The league is inequitable and deeply compromised. You don't need to reside outside Victoria to understand this.

100% this.

 

[Magma]

it is possible to love a club and not love the organisation it's in

 

[rye]

op would probably tell a port supporter if they dont like kochie and hinkley to go support another team

 

[Carringbush2010]

So no one wants to answer just more pile on about vic media blah blah blah, narrow minded op (explain why) or trolling (explain why).

'Because U hate the leaders and hate some of the decisions doesn't mean you hate the sport' It's not about the sport, there's plenty of avenues to follow the 'sport', other leagues that offers more equity, irrelevant.

The only thing I can find so far is this.

'I still watch because I want to see Vic lose,' < is this what it's all about? Is that it? Why is that so important?

 

[EagleMan87]

So no one wants to answer just more pile on about vic media blah blah blah, narrow minded op (explain why) or trolling (explain why).

'Because U hate the leaders and hate some of the decisions doesn't mean you hate the sport' It's not about the sport, there's plenty of avenues to follow the 'sport', other leagues that offers more equity, irrelevant.

The only thing I can find so far is this.

'I still watch because I want to see Vic lose,' < is this what it's all about? Is that it? Why is that so important?

Oh you were actually serious?

We watch because we want to see the best players play, and because we love our teams.

/thread

 

[Carringbush2010]

Because you can still love and follow your club and have so-called disdain for the league at the same time.

You are making them out to be mutually exclusive concepts. They aren't.

By the same token you can follow a league that doesn't piss one off so much.

I'm not claiming it's 'mutually exclusive' I'm just trying to find an answer.

It's not like a gun is being held to the head of non vic fans 'you must follow this club in this league!'

No one wants to answer, yet will carry on infinity about 'it's not fair! waaahhhhh'

Can't have it both ways.

 

[ChristianBoy]

Its not VICBIAS as Collingwood get a leg up at every chance.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Oh you were actually serious?

We watch because we want to see the best players play, and because we love our teams.

/thread

Ok you wanna watch the best players.

Fair enough, but if you wanna watch the best players then you have to accept the league they play in is vic centred.

So no more whinging about.

• Travel, take that up with geography
• Minnow vic teams get supported by afl coffers, they have market that the league doesn't wanna give up
• The GF at the G, for lot's of reasons it's there
• Bitchin about media bias, every state has it, irrelevant.

Dozens of other 'complaints' I can't think of off the top of my head.

If that's the only reason 'wanna watch the best players', then enjoy it and stop the bitchin, or continue the misery, couldn't give a sh*t, just wanna know why. (not just directed at you)

I doubt that's the only reason, wanna know how there's so much hate for the league but continue to follow.

You love your team, well you do have a team in the wafl, you could follow that instead, nothing to complain about there.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Stupid OP.

It's like people saying if you don't like Scott Morrison then you should leave the country.

The AFL has a monopoly and is a quasi religion.
The people running it know this and exploit it.
Same reason monopolies like electricity companies are regulated.
I think McLachlan is a complete campaigner.
He does personal deals with betting companies. Goyder is obviously personally connected with Coles.

It's valid to criticise leadership and not just worship them and let them s**t all over you and s**t on the game for their personal gain.

Because U hate the leaders and hate some of the decisions doesn't mean you hate the sport
People are nuanced enough to be able to separate the two.

You can love the sport and criticise the leaders.

And you're still following it, why?

 

[Carringbush2010]

1 reason to stay, CB2010.

KICKAVIC!

Nothing personal comrade

Why is that so important?

 

[Carringbush2010]

For moments like these:

Please elaborate, is it just to stick it to the vics? If that is it or just part of it, why is that so important?

 

[Carringbush2010]

OP may also believe that if something about Australian society annoys you, don't complain about it, go live somewhere else.

And?

Are you still gonna complain about the league your club is in? If so why?

 

[Carringbush2010]

It’s not just clubs of non Vic supporters who believe in conspiracies against their clubs, happens to all supporters.

You could make an argument for all clubs getting a leg up and unfair advantage really in some way.

Below is a list of grievances people have with each club, some real some imagined:

Adelaide - power of the state behind them. And the old 11-12 (this year 13) home game thing. Rich club. Also tried to cheat to keep Tippett
Brisbane - afl funded, used to have cola

Carlton - too many early draft picks, tanked and cheated salary cap

Collingwood - tribunal favours them, media favours them, play every game at the MCG

Essendon - drug cheats, salary cap cheats, media love in.

Fremantle - home games make it easy to make finals. Aside from that truly ethical, they just seem angry at everyone else.

GWS - AFL trust fund baby. No one goes for them or cares, yet will continue to exist and propped up.

Geelong - unfair weird shaped home ground guarantees them finals (until it doesn’t), Steven Hocking, being regional gives them unfair advantage as cheaper housing, whinge about home finals

I’m done for now, someone else can do the rest.

It's not about that, there's so much hate and angst against the league coz it's vic centred, just wanna know why people with so much misery continue to follow.

They're still following and still bitchin, don't get it.

 

[Carringbush2010]

It's gonna be a 100 pages of reflection upon the OP'S stupidity for putting up such a VICBIAS post.
FMD spare me.

So no more whingin about the league's inequity then from you.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Th OP is the exact reason why interstate supporters complain about Vic Bias.

"It'S oUr lEAgUe, If YoU don'T LiKe iT, * oFF!!!!"

Zero self-awareness although completely expected.

And you're still here following it.

So you hate it coz 'vic flogs' well if you don't like then yeah * off, or don't, couldn't give a sh*t.

Is this the reason why you still follow, your hatred of vic flogs? Honest question.

 

[Carringbush2010]

The league is inequitable and deeply compromised. You don't need to reside outside Victoria to understand this.

Then why do people who believe this still follow it?

 

[Carringbush2010]

op would probably tell a port supporter if they dont like kochie and hinkley to go support another team

Why would I do that? Not to mention irrelevant.

 

[bzparkes]

And you're still here following it.

So you hate it coz 'vic flogs' well if you don't like then yeah * off, or don't, couldn't give a sh*t.

Is this the reason why you still follow, your hatred of vic flogs? Honest question.

I follow it because since my club arrived, they've been far more successful than all other clubs, bar Hawthorn and Geelong

 

[Franc de Borges]

Then why do people who believe this still follow it?

Why put your money in a bank when you know they're designed to screw you?

 

[kranky al]

Because you can still love and follow your club and have so-called disdain for the league at the same time.

You are making them out to be mutually exclusive concepts. They aren't.

Called him on both the Herp and the derp of his argument.

 

[VicBased]

Please elaborate, is it just to stick it to the vics? If that is it or just part of it, why is that so important?

Of course it is. Just like the Vic's want to stick it to us.
This I S a two way street you know.

 

[kranky al]

So there's been over eleventy gazillion posts and threads on #VICBIAS

There are some questions I have for non vic fans. Questions I've asked many many times and have never received an answer.

If you hold so much disdain for this league why do you still follow?

The following points are good reasons why you should stop following our inequitable league.

• For starters you can take away the vic bias conspiracy (theory)
• For those in WA and SA you have your AFL teams in your local state leagues, so no 'my afl team isn't in it'
• You can passionately follow your state league club without the inequities of the v/afl. Even if it's not your afl club.
• If you all voted with your feet and remotes and followed your state leagues they would once again flourish.
• Don't worry about the vic clubs there's enough public interest for all of them to sustain them, would even be confident of a return of public interest for South Melbourne and Fitzroy. The whatever the vfl would be would flourish just as much as the other state leagues.
• No more travel, particularly fruitful for the WA clubs.
• No more sleeping in hotels instead for your players and coaches instead of their own bed.
• No more paying eleventy gazillion dollars to see your team in a GF for flights, hotels etc (which is obviously gouging on those airlines, hotels etc).
• No more disparity in inequity in a GF against an MCG tenant.

So what are the reasons you still follow this league? Why is it so important yet so abhorrent?

Please explain your disdain at the same time of your unbridled following of your club in this league, why continue the misery?

Please answer.

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