Moved Thread For non vic fans who disdain the AFL competition

[Carringbush2010]

What a s**t post. Entitled much?
Enjoy your 4 team competition when there’s interstate clubs to prop up the Victorian teams that can’t pay their own way. Although then again I suppose there would be less teams to beat you in grand finals so maybe you would enjoy it.

Why is it a sh*t post? How does that make me entitled?

If you don't wanna answer the question, fine, but don't take pot shots at me for reasonable questions.

 

[bzparkes]

So no more whinging about the league's inequities from you then, ok, enjoy the league

If you don't like people discussing the inequities of the AFL, **** off and follow the VFL.

 

[Carringbush2010]

So ‘interstate’ fans should just watch their local team because it’s a known fact that the AFL is corrupt? Good thread mate.

They can do what they want, if you don't like the league you can follow the state comp, if you wanna continue the misery that has plastered all over BF real estate that's fine too.

Just wanna get to the why non vic fans put themselves through the misery, continue the bitchin but won't turn their back on what they find abhorrent.

 

[Carringbush2010]

If you don't like people discussing the inequities of the AFL, * off and follow the VFL.

Couldn't give a sh*t, you complain about the inequities ad nauseam, why do you bother? I wanna know why.

 

[Franc de Borges]

They can do what they want, if you don't like the league you can follow the state comp, if you wanna continue the misery that has plastered all over BF real estate that's fine too.

Just wanna get to the why non vic fans put themselves through the misery, continue the bitchin but won't turn their back on what they find abhorrent.

I find it abhorrent but I still watch. So would you if Collingwood was getting shafted.

 

[stallon]

So this is the whole and sole reason you follow the league? And why is that so important?

Nah lol i watch my Eagles, but it always increases my enjoyment when victorian teams lose

 

[Grin]

So ‘interstate’ fans should just watch their local team because it’s a known fact that the AFL is corrupt? Good thread mate.

My team's the biggest victim of AFL corruption, what with multiple rule changes to screw our game plan and a decade of umpiring bias, but I still watch it and go to games. It's more the total commercialisation that shits me.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

What a load of crap.
Most Vics I know barrack for a non-Vic in GF's

2 way street? yeah right.

Spot on. I don't expect any Victorian Club supporter to barrack for us if we make the prelim final against the Lions next week.

Century/generations plus old inner Vic club rivalries and hate will never be diminished or diluted because of non Victorian clubs

Other elements of #VICBIAS I don't necessarily disagree with (Indeed I sympathise with several of their beefs, esp with biased Fox Footy and 7 Commentary and forced to play in regional areas like Ballarat) but the notion most Vic Club supporters would actively cheer for our fellow Vic clubs against Non Victorian clubs, esp finals is ridiculous

Was so happy when Freo knocked Geelong off in ther final at the Cattery several years ago (an Sandilands masterpiece)

 

[Carringbush2010]

Ok I watch the AFL because it’s the highest tier of the sport. I follow West Coast because West Perth were not invited.
There is much I hate about how the comp is but still I follow the highest tier of the sport.
I am not sure what answer you are after but that’s about as clear as it can be.

I've never read once ever from you the whining about the inequities, among the gazillion thread on this topic. That makes you an exception rather than the rule.

I'm asking the people that have their beefs, why do they bother?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Before the VFL expanded every top tier keague was fair and equitable. The AFL from day one was set up to not be so.
How is that not something that should be asked why?

That has been asked and explained ad nauseam on these boards, so we do know and I agree it's not equitable, my question is to those who have a problem with it, why bother?

 

[The_Reaper]

Is this why you still follow the league?

The league has major faults which can be improved on but it is still enjoyable to watch.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Spot on. I don't expect any Victorian Club supporter to barrack for us if we make the prelim final against the Lions next week.

Century/generations plus old inner Vic club rivalries and hate will never be diminished or diluted because of non Victorian clubs

Other elements of #VICBIAS I don't necessarily disagree with (Indeed I sympathise with several of their beefs, esp with biased Fox Footy and 7 Commentary and forced to play in regional areas like Ballarat) but the notion most Vic Club supporters would actively cheer for our fellow Vic clubs against Non Victorian clubs, esp finals is ridiculous

Was so happy when Freo knocked Geelong off in ther final at the Cattery several years ago (an Sandilands masterpiece)

Yeah some have this weird notion that Vics actually despise them.

It's actually quite funny how they think we hate them when most Vics don't care enough, they should know this from following a state league, there is rivalries.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I find it abhorrent but I still watch. So would you if Collingwood was getting shafted.

We didn't join it, we were already in it.

I don't find it abhorrent, you might, haven't see you whine about it though.

Most non vic fans though, think the league is conspired against them, yet they follow and bitch about it in perpetuity. Wanna know why they bother.

 

[Franc de Borges]

We didn't join it, we were already in it.

I don't find it abhorrent, you might, haven't see you whine about it though.

Most non vic fans though, think the league is conspired against them, yet they follow and bitch about it in perpetuity. Wanna know why they bother.

This is like a millionaire not understanding the cost of living crisis.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Nah lol i watch my Eagles, but it always increases my enjoyment when victorian teams lose

I sort of figured that for most non vic fans (others reading that correct me if I'm wrong).

Why is this important?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I've never read once ever from you the whining about the inequities, among the gazillion thread on this topic. That makes you an exception rather than the rule.

I'm asking the people that have their beefs, why do they bother?

I don’t know why, I get we joined the VFL. I’m still dirty on WA footy rushing to do that. Matters not now however.
The only thing I really hate is the lack of respect the keepers of the sport have had in sharing the great history of the SANFL and The WAFL. That is on the AFL.
The so called vic bias does not overly worry me, I just shut off to it if I think it’s there. The Friday night football games always are a Vic team. So I just stopped watching Friday night footy. Other than finals or West Coast playing I can’t remember watching one.
I am more annoyed with what the AFL have done to this sport. I used to love this sport but now I don’t even know the rules anymore.
The fans however don’t care for the sport as we once all did, they care only for their club so the AFL know they can do as they please with the sport and the sheep will just watch it.
That is the sad thing for me.
Should the GF be rotated? Yes of course it should but I kinda like the MCG.
Should they fixture be fairer, yes of course it should. But until Victoria wants it fairer it will never be addressed. And of course they don’t want it to be addressed. So I live with it.
As I don’t love the sport anymore and that really annoys me then I have lost caring. That’s life as they say.

 

[Carringbush2010]

The league has major faults which can be improved on but it is still enjoyable to watch.

OK it's enjoyable to watch.

You claims it has major faults, I agree, there are faults that disadvantage your club.

If you complain about those, why do you complain? Knowing the probable answers to those faults?

Is it enjoyable enough for you not to complain about it?

 

[bzparkes]

Couldn't give a sh*t, you complain about the inequities ad nauseam, why do you bother? I wanna know why.

Only one person's crying in this thread.

You.

 

[VicBased]

Grim statement but the AFL will only become an even comp once everyone that was alive during the 60/70/80s VFL days is gone.

Then they can stop holding onto the old state league glory days and move forward with the competition because theirs no one left from those years and people will only be affiliated to the AFL.

In another 30-40 years no one will give 2 shitzens about the VFL or who won what back in that league.

And Interstaters will finally get to play a GF out of Victoria.

 

[VicBased]

Judging by this thread and Richmond posters Vics do a good job of whinging themselves.
OP supports the most looked after club in the comp and wonders why Interstaters whinge about travel and they never leave the state let alone the MCG .
This thread is like the sighted person asking the blind man why he can't see.
But back on topic, I love WC footy club since day one of their inception and love watching them play, no matter where.
They have, on many occasions, overcome the odds against them ala 2018 and I love a battler.

 

[Carringbush2010]

The only thing I really hate is the lack of respect the keepers of the sport have had in sharing the great history of the SANFL and The WAFL. That is on the AFL.

This is the first time I've read a post from you with a complaint, not sure why HQ don't share more SA and WA footy history, maybe it is bias.

This has been mentioned a gazillion times with disdain, yet those with that beef continue to follow this disrespectful league.

But until Victoria wants it fairer it will never be addressed. And of course they don’t want it to be addressed. So I live with it.

Of course Vic fans want the status quo, it suits their clubs better than non vic clubs.

You know it, I know it, every dog and its bowl knows it. The reason has been explained in perpetuity among eleventy gazillion threads, and the complaining with fervour still continues among non vic fans.

Other non vic fans can't seem to live with it in peace so why do they bother?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Only one person's crying in this thread.

You.

Not crying at all, just want the answers, I know makes me the anti christ.

Are you never gonna again complain about our inequitable league?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

This is the first time I've read a post from you with a complaint, not sure why HQ don't share more SA and WA footy history, maybe it is bias.

This has been mentioned a gazillion times with disdain, yet those with that beef continue to follow this disrespectful league.

Of course Vic fans want the status quo, it suits their clubs better than non vic clubs.

You know it, I know it, every dog and its bowl knows it. The reason has been explained in perpetuity among eleventy gazillion threads, and the complaining with fervour still continues among non vic fans.

Other non vic fans can't seem to live with it in peace so why do they bother?

Again, I don’t know that answer. I just know mine. Does it really bother you mate? Threads would be pretty boring if we just talked about the game. It’s not that good anymore.

 

[Blue1980]

Of course it is. Just like the Vic's want to stick it to us.
This I S a two way street you know.

I don’t really give a shit who wins if it’s not Carlton. Would prefer an interstate side to our main Vic rivals though winning a flag and I’m sure they feel the same regarding us.

 

[bzparkes]

Not crying at all, just want the answers, I know makes me the anti christ.

Are you never gonna again complain about our inequitable league?

Do you honestly believe it's impossible to enjoy something, even though you have complaints about it?

For mine, if I supported Collingwood, I'd forever be complaining, because the club's gifted probably the biggest ride in the comp, yet continuously fails at winning flags.

Mind you, this was an issue long before the AFL was ever a thing .