Coaching Staff Former Coach Ben "Truck" Rutten - Sacked for real this time - 21/8

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_007_ said:
Genuine question with no silly business. How do you guys feel about a potential Hird reunion?
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It would just be an embarrassment and a sign that the club itself never changes. and hey, Knights got sacked on a Sunday before the final round ended too.

I stuck by the club after reading the interim report/notice of charge sheet in August 2013 and knowing that the thymosin beta 4 stuff was incredibly ****ing suss and the club declaring war on the AFL/ASADA was incredibly unwise, so if I stuck with them through that, I'm not going to quit on them now. And I get the dumb rich ****s wanting Hird to come back...but I can't fathom James Hird actually wanting to come back other than he still thinks nothing untoward happened which is just.....and how many law suits did you lose in the end, mate?
 

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_007_ said:
Genuine question with no silly business. How do you guys feel about a potential Hird reunion?
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Can’t see Hird being interested in this circus so shouldn’t even be in the discussion.

We are not landing trades so just take time and find the best coach before the draft.

Is Buckley interested in coaching again?
 
Bombermania said:
Best of luck to Rutten, he will land a new and better job soon enough.
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Hope he gets back to Tigerland.

Unfortunately, AFL is a ruthless business and the Head coach is always under pressure if team going crap, good or bad. Players may love Rutten but didn't follow through with on field actions. Poor preparation, early injuries, toughest first 3 games of anyone and the loss of Tippa were huge and we never really recovered. Rutten was on a hiding to nothing.

IDK who I want as coach but we need to have a proper process (not confident we will).

Don't want Hird as coach but would follow the club regardless, hell, I would follow this team if they made Putin coach!
 
WillowSF said:
If your looking for an experienced coach it has to be Lyon, B Scott or Cameron. (Surely not Hird.)

Also, has Buckley indicated he’s not coaching again? (He would be fantastic…)
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Buckley and Cameron have no interest in us, and rightfully so.
 
ant555 said:
Too soon for me. I hope he can coach somewhere and can go well but what happened back then is still a major factor in what is happening at the club now.
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Hird probably has the footy IQ to do it if he set his mind to it but that he hasn’t spend years at successful opposition clubs means a string no to me
 
isthisit13 said:
Tell them to stick their membership fair up their clacker.
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You think members don't deserve a say given the absolute cluster **** we are in and how long some of th se idiots have been on the board?
 
ant555 said:
Too soon for me. I hope he can coach somewhere and can go well but what happened back then is still a major factor in what is happening at the club now.
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For me, the crucial part of the "too soon" period ending involves, funnily enough and in my opinion, a president and a board that accepts, not with gritted teeth and not with sly complaints about the AFL and ASADA and WADA and the Swiss government and the man on the moon, that 38 people got banned and we're responsible for that

so it doesn't look like the too soon period will ever end
 

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WillowSF said:
If your looking for an experienced coach it has to be Lyon, B Scott or Cameron. (Surely not Hird.)

Also, has Buckley indicated he’s not interested in coaching again? (He would be fantastic…)
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I think he more or less indicated he has no interest in stepping into our shit storm earlier this week.
 
A lot to unpack here. What bothers me the most is that Rutten seemed to be the only person that knows what the club needs to do to get success. Stability, hard work, stick to the plan, fix the culture. The one guy at the club who actually has the smarts to see why we’ve been a clusterf*ck for the past 15 years and going nowhere fast gets the arse from an arrogant President looking for another quick fix.

Something (I believe) Roco said on the Lunchtime Catch-up Podcast really stood out to me; that football clubs are about people. Right now in my view the EFC is not about people. We’ve just turfed the guy that actually sounds like he has real love and care for the club, the players, the staff and the members and supporters.

Regardless of whether you’re of the view that Rutten had what it took to take the team to success, i think we can all agree that if the board and president took a moment to read the room they’d quickly see they’ve completely alienated the members and supporters. We’re ashamed and embarrassed. But I honestly question whether they care as long as the membership $ keep coming in.

I’m as detached and disillusioned by this club as I’ve ever been.


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P Money said:
A lot to unpack here. What bothers me the most is that Rutten seemed to be the only person that knows what the club needs to do to get success. Stability, hard work, stick to the plan, fix the culture. The one guy at the club who actually has the smarts to see why we’ve been a clusterf*ck for the past 15 years and going nowhere fast gets the arse from an arrogant President looking for another quick fix.

Something (I believe) Roco said on the Lunchtime Catch-up Podcast really stood out to me; that football clubs are about people. Right now in my view the EFC is not about people. We’ve just turfed the guy that actually sounds like he has real love and care for the club, the players, the staff and the members and supporters.

Regardless of whether you’re of the view that Rutten had what it took to take the team to success, i think we can all agree that if the board and president took a moment to read the room they’d quickly see they’ve completely alienated the members and supporters. We’re ashamed and embarrassed. But I honestly question whether they care as long as the membership $ keep coming in.

I’m as detached and disillusioned by this club as I’ve ever been.


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Tbf, the events of the past week have led to me finding some john worsfold statements made towards the end and after the end. Worsfold got some stick for the "essendon isn't owned success" line but is it really that different to Rutten's lamenting the club not being on the same page

www.foxsports.com.au

Outgoing coach John Worsfold explains why ‘Essendon people’ shouldn’t expect quick Bombers success

These comments from Essendon’s coach were bizarre. He ‘shouldn’t be talking’ in the first place
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au

and his commentary on the board's reaction following the 2017 finals loss...

www.theage.com.au

‘Is that the culture I need to uphold?’: When Worsfold almost walked out of Essendon

Former Essendon coach John Worsfold has opened up about events after the 2017 elimination final, and questioned why the Bombers still believe they are beyond on-field struggles.
www.theage.com.au www.theage.com.au
 
I didn't think it was possible that I could become even more disappointed in this club and its management. One thing I'll give them credit for, they never cease to surprise me.
 

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