Opinion Forward Line

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I think what the Grand Final massacre showed us, is that this forward line will win sweet FA come the business end.

We desperately need a new forward line heading into round one, or we will have the exact same outcome this time next year (if we even get that far).

I would switch Blakey up forward ASAP. He played all his junior years there and yes, I get he's an AA half back, but the GF showed him up massively.

Put Mills back as a permanent defender, no midfield time at all, and sure up that shaky defence.

I would also trade Amartey/McLean and bring in a medium size forward who is actually mobile, can work up the ground and kick goals.

We have no dynamic forwards aside from Papley.

Look at Brisbane on the weekend, 78 points from their forward line to our measley 12 points from Papley/Hayward.

That makeshift forward line with Jordon/Parker needs re-jigging or we will have another disaster this time next year.

Thoughts?
 
JimmySwan said:
I think what the Grand Final massacre showed us, is that this forward line will win sweet FA come the business end.

We desperately need a new forward line heading into round one, or we will have the exact same outcome this time next year (if we even get that far).

I would switch Blakey up forward ASAP. He played all his junior years there and yes, I get he's an AA half back, but the GF showed him up massively.

Put Mills back as a permanent defender, no midfield time at all, and sure up that shaky defence.

I would also trade Amartey/McLean and bring in a medium size forward who is actually mobile, can work up the ground and kick goals.

We have no dynamic forwards aside from Papley.

Look at Brisbane on the weekend, 78 points from their forward line to our measley 12 points from Papley/Hayward.

That makeshift forward line with Jordon/Parker needs re-jigging or we will have another disaster this time next year.

Thoughts?
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I was very surprised last trade period that we decided to keep both Amartey and McLean.
I thought we'd keep one and trade one.
 
I wouldn’t mind Blakey as a forward or winger. He clearly doesn’t defend one on one when he gets the chance and is too easily beaten.

Drop the three forwards crap or / and use one of them as a back up ruck

Trade for an insider midfielder from somewhere and actually PLAY him unlike poor Taylor Adams.
 

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I liked to have the club to get more mongrel. If this means recruiting Jake Stringer then so be it. Sick of them being Mr Nice Club all the time and get nothing in return for it. This goes for our happy clapper crowd too. Make some ****ing noise at the SCG
 
TheGoatBaron said:
I liked to have the club to get more mongrel. If this means recruiting Jake Stringer then so be it. Sick of them being Mr Nice Club all the time and get nothing in return for it. This goes for our happy clapper crowd too. Make some ****ing noise at the SCG
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Totally agree.

I don't get the hate on Stringer. He can light it up in big games and he's way better than the duds we've got up there right now.

I would recruit him in a heartbeat, but there's no way the club will touch him.
 
Amartey McLean and McDonald don’t bring fear to any teams backline Blakey upfront? Can he hit the target?
 
Highest scoring team all year- maybe ****ed now.

It can work if the team performs .

Not much Paps and Hayward can do if the ball isn't there. Not much the talls can do if you bomb over their head all day.

not to give them an out of course , the three talls were inconsistent . Mclean in last years final was sensational , where that gone? Amartey shows glimpses so does Mcdonald.

I'm not sure why we are so locked into the structure to the point where when Amartey did miss we pick Ladhams (not Hamling lol) and keep it exactly the same.

We tried Parker on Aliir and it worked so we tried it again ... hmm . Parker is too slow and was exposed by good sides .

Maybe we need more Chad forward! ? Heeney still needs to go forward .

We really need Mcdonald to deliver , all 3 talls got their contracts , Hayward got his.

The talent is there, I know Amartey is copping it and rightly so and being called a dud but he has shown something at times.


To me the leading patterns were ****ed , there was no movement , and even in good games we play from behind a lot , that has to be instructional . Is our goal to bomb high and hope to just make a contest? We also ended up with Parker one out a lot wtf was that ?.

I think Amartey playing in front v port showed what he could do as a full forward .

But yeah maybe it's just about being flexible and picking 2 of these talls?

Maybe it's time to decide what Mcdonald is and commit to it. Is he up the ground basically a flanker? is he playing as the main target?

Is Hayward the full forward ? I don't know .

I did say stuff picking Hamling when we were winning but in hindsight we should have probably rewarded VFL form, we left it all too late.
 
DanMG44 said:
Amartey McLean and McDonald don’t bring fear to any teams backline Blakey upfront? Can he hit the target?
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Agree.

Yep, Blakey as a third forward will be elite.

He played all his juniors as a forward, he can lead, kick goals and is quick.

He would be a very hard matchup forward.
 
JimmySwan said:
Agree.

Yep, Blakey as a third forward will be elite.

He played all his juniors as a forward, he can lead, kick goals and is quick.

He would be a very hard matchup forward.
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Blakey ended up back because he did f all up forward didn't he?

I can't see them moving an AA half back who gives us our drive,

If anything get him some
midfield minutes maybe
 

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You don't need a superstar key forward to win a flag, if the midfield turn up and hit the scoreboard and also lower their ****en eyes and maximise the forwards you have.
 
its very difficult watching the few times we get the ball in teh first quarter and seeing logan lead with separation (even if he couldnt run) and heeney and warner just kicking it as hard as they could.

If there wasnt an instruction then the preparation clearly wasnt any effin good because they simply refused to lower their eyes to targets even if they were outside fifty.

part of the love for robbie fox was because he did actually try to kick it to the player in front of him.
 
The King! said:
You don't need a superstar key forward to win a flag, if the midfield turn up and hit the scoreboard and also lower their ****en eyes and maximise the forwards you have.
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You do though.

I agree the midfield needs to be better, but we are relying too heavily on our midfield to kick a score.

Look at Brisbane, they get it in there and all their forwards bop up and kick a few.

Lohmann and Ah Chee both kicked 4 each. 48 points just from two of their players.

Who were our dangerous forwards? Nowhere to be seen. Missing again in a big game
 
JimmySwan said:
You do though.

I agree the midfield needs to be better, but we are relying too heavily on our midfield to kick a score.

Look at Brisbane, they get it in there and all their forwards bop up and kick a few.

Lohmann and Ah Chee both kicked 4 each. 48 points just from two of their players.

Who were our dangerous forwards? Nowhere to be seen. Missing again in a big game
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Lohmann and Ahchee aren't superstars though .

If superstars won flags Mckay and Curnrow would be holding the cup with Cripps for instance.

You need people to do their ****en job and work hard like Lohmann how much space does he work to get. Him marking forward is the result of hard work.

Our dangerous forwards are Papley and Hayward and I agree we need one of the talls at least to become a bigger threat.

I am just saying you don't have to have the coleman medalist to win the flag , you just need to have forwards prepared to lead, create space and do the hard work off the ball.

If you midfield scores all the goals sure it's risky but we had such a good spread really until saturday . But where was Papley where was Hayward .

I mean Mcdonald was he even out there? i just felt angry when we had the ball and all you could see was Parker guarding Andrews and nothing else.

I don't disagree with your point about forwards needing to kick goals .

But if I said do you want Ah Chee and Lohman or Hayward and Papley - is it an easy pick? maybe after Saturday it is but bet prior no one wanted to swap.


Whoever the forward line coach is has lost the plot too, all our forward try to work their man under the ball and play from behind way too often, think Paps gave away a free trying to climb Starcevich for example.

Get in front and lead and make space for each other
 
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bungalow_bill said:
We had one or two on our board last year gloating over Dunkley's failure to win a flag.
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They’re some of the biggest flog supporter base in the league. And they only have two flags to show for it.
 
I was pretty consistent all year - three talls can work, even if average, but only if they have plenty of quality smalls at their feet.

We had three talls that were suspect all season long in terms of taking marks inside 50. So them bringing it to ground and having dangerous smalls at ground level for the ball drop would be pretty important you'd think. You definitely wouldn't pick only one small forward to counter this tall structure.

But even if the talls do get beaten and the opposition defenders end up winning possession, having dangerous pressure players ready to pressure their time to get rid of the ball and close the space they have to use it would be important you would think. You definitely wouldn't name a forward line without one elite pressure player in it.

Go Crazy Wtf GIF
 
gives me no pleasure to say that i thought parker with the three talls was an horrendous mistake. I've been saying for weeks that if parker plays it is at the expense of a tall not in addition to one. but my words have been wasted on this forum...

but there is a counter argument which i havent really been willing to grasp which goes to the lack of depth/trust ant horse has in the extended squad. what if they were the best forward options we had anyway ?

Still i cant help but to think that playing warner as the deepest man might have stretched brisbanes defence in a way which parker couldnt do.
 
You've got to win the ball to get it forward to start with and then kick to a Swans player.

We just spray away like a 9 year old at a urinal.

How many times Saturday in the first quarter especially did we drill a 50m kick straight down the gob of a Brissy defender standing on their own.

Horse and Co has struggled with a forward line set up that works for years. Time to get a forward to run the forward line.
 

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