Franks for the memories. Things don't always go well with COLA

[Benji McPherson]

5 in an easy win doesn't count for much in my book. You don't pay millions for someone to kick goals in soft wins against a depleted and overmatched opponent.

When did he last kick then when it mattered?

 

[eldorado]

5 in an easy win doesn't count for much in my book.

That was an easy win???

I hope we don't have too many hard ones, then....

 

[QuietB]

What do you get for $500k? And at what point does two of those become more important than 1 of Buddy? 2 x $500k? 2 x $550k? 2 x $600k?

 

[Thaihawk]

This morning Ross Stevenson gave on air his first hand account of Buddy's behavior at the GP, " he'd had a few but was generally well behaved" he couldn't understand where the appalling behavior stuff came from, that's a first hand eye witness account not some third hand chinese whisper as printed and rehashed by The Age's fiction contributor.

Isn't he a one-eyed Hawk supporter?

 

[jive]

5 in an easy win doesn't count for much in my book. You don't pay millions for someone to kick goals in soft wins against a depleted and overmatched opponent.

When did he last kick then when it mattered?

GF (got us back in the game with 2 huge goals from outside 50), QF (stung Collingwoods momentum at the end of fQTR2), 4 goals in Sydney in round 22 (helped get us back in the match and secured us top 2), 4 goals in 1 quarter in the final round against West Coast - his first quarter basically won the game for us which was an armwrestle after QTR1 and secured us first place.

7 goals. 2 games so far in 2013 with his bitches Collingwood next week.

Carn Buddy

 

[Procrastinator35]

GF (got us back in the game with 2 huge goals from outside 50), QF (stung Collingwoods momentum at the end of fQTR2), 4 goals in Sydney in round 22 (helped get us back in the match and secured us top 2), 4 goals in 1 quarter in the final round against West Coast - his first quarter basically won the game for us which was an armwrestle after QTR1 and secured us first place.

7 goals. 2 games so far in 2013 with his bitches Collingwood next week.

Carn Buddy

If and when he can kick 5 or more against the Cats, in clutch moments & not give away any head-less free-kicks; then and only then will I be convinced that he is worth 1 $Million. Sam Mitchell should look him square in the eye and ask him honestly if he thinks he should get more than him! We all know the answer to that one!

 

[Benji McPherson]

GF (got us back in the game with 2 huge goals from outside 50), QF (stung Collingwoods momentum at the end of fQTR2), 4 goals in Sydney in round 22 (helped get us back in the match and secured us top 2), 4 goals in 1 quarter in the final round against West Coast - his first quarter basically won the game for us which was an armwrestle after QTR1 and secured us first place.

7 goals. 2 games so far in 2013 with his bitches Collingwood next week.

Carn Buddy

This is exactly the sort of hero-worshipping attitude which has led to Buddy being the trainwreck he is. All of us know the "extra-curricular" stuff he gets up to, and yet sycophants like Procrastinator35 continue to give him credit for games he hasn't even played yet!

Get rid of Buddy. And while you're at it, get rid of the corrosive, fan-boy attitude that turns great players into complete headcases.

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

he is worth it deal with it !
he also ASSISTS in goals ones that he could kick but lets others kick them !
people complain if the ball is kicked to him yet complain when he does not kick goals please MAKE UP YOUR MINDS !
anyway i like how he assists in others kicking goals and him kicking goals !

 

[Procrastinator35]

This is exactly the sort of hero-worshipping attitude which has led to Buddy being the trainwreck he is. All of us know the "extra-curricular" stuff he gets up to, and yet sycophants like Procrastinator35 continue to give him credit for games he hasn't even played yet!

Get rid of Buddy. And while you're at it, get rid of the corrosive, fan-boy attitude that turns great players into complete headcases.

????? I think you got your wires crossed Benji!!! I'm no fan of Buddy the Person. Big fan of Buddy the Player. Still not convinced with him in big matches. Thats always been my queery on him! Think you'll find that The "Jive-Meister" wrote the post you're referring to! But hey I've been called worst on this site before. Best watch out for the "Flying Monkeys" with such comments though. A touch personal methinks!

 

[Hungry Hawk]

If and when he can kick 5 or more against the Cats, in clutch moments & not give away any head-less free-kicks; then and only then will I be convinced that he is worth 1 $Million. Sam Mitchell should look him square in the eye and ask him honestly if he thinks he should get more than him! We all know the answer to that one!

You blokes are going to be pushing shit uphill to convince the average Hawks supporter that Buddy never delivers in clutch situations. He is a warrior who gives his all. He battles against multiple opponents, has improved his peripheral vision, loves delivering big tackles.
If he was as disappointing as you say we wouldn't be discussing Bud's contract in a mammoth thread.

 

[Procrastinator35]

You blokes are going to be pushing shit uphill to convince the average Hawks supporter that Buddy never delivers in clutch situations. He is a warrior who gives his all. He battles against multiple opponents, has improved his peripheral vision, loves delivering big tackles.
If he was as disappointing as you say we wouldn't be discussing Bud's contract in a mammoth thread.

Just two questions Hungry:

How's his goal-kicking accuracy coming along????? Gets worst every year!
Will he once again have the most frees against by a country mile? Likely!

Nuf Said!

 

[eldorado]

Buddy is a 'trainwreck' and a 'headcase' now? Is that you, Caro?

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

Just two questions Hungry:

How's his goal-kicking accuracy coming along????? Gets worst every year!
Will he once again have the most frees against by a country mile? Likely!

Nuf Said!

dont know as we have not played a full season this year !!!!!

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

Sounds all a bit "Irrational" and "illogical" to me! You forget that with the $ million we save, we can sign a gun midfielder!!! Cherish

That really goes with saying doesn't it. Whether it be by trade or free agency.....

Like who? Who is going to be available we can sign if Buddy goes this year? Who?

This shit annoys me, you're justifying losing an elite kpf by saying we WILL sign one of those equally good available midfielders that are just everywhere...

Losing buddy will hurt hawthorn badly if it happens. No doubt whatsover

 

[Procrastinator35]

Buddy is a 'trainwreck' and a 'headcase' now? Is that you, Caro?

A little extreme and over the top 4 you Eldorado! No fan Of Caro mate. Heck one look at her puts me off sex for a week. Medusa looks better!

Just think he believes his own press and is wrapped up in his own image.

Would be nice to see him truly mature into a disciplined footballer who irons out his clear deficiencies rather than just gettin by on his quite obvious raw talent of which he has in abundance, buckets full, in spades. We all wish we were him.

Yeah we get it. But I think he should be doin better! His legacy may well be the most profligate footballer there ever was. Capiche!

 

[Hungry Hawk]

Just two questions Hungry:

How's his goal-kicking accuracy coming along????? Gets worst every year!
Will he once again have the most frees against by a country mile? Likely!

Nuf Said!

He doesnt shit golden eggs either, but he is worth a big contract and I hope we able to reach an agreement suitable for both parties. For every stat you pull to demonstrate his weakness there are many more that demonstrate his worth.

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

with you there Chucky
if we lose buddy it will hurt big time

we need a forward not a mid if we did lose him
got plenty of mids last i looked !

a forward that would hopefully be as good but as they are rare as hens teeth and you would not know till too late unless lucky like we were with buddy
we will be in trouble
yes won a few with out him but that does not mean that would be always the case either

i

 

[jive]

This is exactly the sort of hero-worshipping attitude which has led to Buddy being the trainwreck he is. All of us know the "extra-curricular" stuff he gets up to, and yet sycophants like Procrastinator35 continue to give him credit for games he hasn't even played yet!

Get rid of Buddy. And while you're at it, get rid of the corrosive, fan-boy attitude that turns great players into complete headcases.

Right, so by supporting a player with fun idioms, such as, "carn Buddy" turns them into head cases. By this logic every single elite player in every highly followed sport is a "headcase"...

Obviously some are being influenced by the apocryphal articles written about him.

 

[Procrastinator35]

with you there Chucky
if we lose buddy it will hurt big time

we need a forward not a mid if we did lose him
got plenty of mids last i looked !

a forward that would hopefully be as good but as they are rare as hens teeth and you would not know till too late unless lucky like we were with buddy
we will be in trouble
yes won a few with out him but that does not mean that would be always the case either

i

No one is arguing that Buddy is not a great player of football. Anyone with an ounce of intellect knows he is the number one forward in the league. That is not up for dispute.

The point is that he is not a True Champion yet. Champions step up and deliver when it matters most. They dont almost get you over the line. They get you over the line.

Fact is that Buddy misses way too many clutch shots in big games and gives away too many dumb free kicks to the point that it has a major impact on the team and our results in big games. Read Finals that matter and any game versus the CATS.

Anyone here who denies this is kidding themselves! Cut the Crap! Its the truth, face it, admit it, stop living in denial people!

 

[dipper86]

Wow Pulled that one out of the Vault Duck. Like your Avatar its come back to bite me on the bum. Are you a mate of Dippers by any chance???

You've tried hard but ultimately you've failed miserably.......any more outlandish statements based on pure ignorance?

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

No one is arguing that Buddy is not a great player of football. Anyone with an ounce of intellect knows he is the number one forward in the league. That is not up for dispute.

The point is that he is not a True Champion yet. Champions step up and deliver when it matters most. They dont almost get you over the line. They get you over the line.

Fact is that Buddy misses way too many clutch shots in big games and gives away too many dumb free kicks to the point that it has a major impact on the team and our results in big games. Read Finals that matter and any game versus the CATS.

Anyone here who denies this is kidding themselves! Cut the Crap! Its the truth, face it, admit it, stop living in denial people!

FACT is he does more then you think he does !

 

[Benji McPherson]

FACT is he does more then you think he does !

I think the problem is he does a lot more than what we hear he does

 

[HAWKS HEROES]

I think the problem is he does a lot more than what we hear he does

yes visits hospitals to see sick kids trains for the hawks sells his shirts ! does a lot for charity that hey no one hears about so yes he does or are you implying something else !
also
yes goes to the races so what

yes goes to the GP whoppy do da

 

[crankybeep]

Ah for firetrucks sake the way some of you talk about Caro is disgraceful.

 

[beta_condition]

No one is arguing that Buddy is not a great player of football. Anyone with an ounce of intellect knows he is the number one forward in the league. That is not up for dispute.



The point is that he is not a True Champion yet. Champions step up and deliver when it matters most. They dont almost get you over the line. They get you over the line.



Fact is that Buddy misses way too many clutch shots in big games and gives away too many dumb free kicks to the point that it has a major impact on the team and our results in big games.

But apparently he doesn't perform and is an underachiever despite being the number 1 forward who isn't worth 1 million
Pretty unbelievable you would say this considering his finals records ranks up there with the games best, he's kicked the winning goal how many times? Serious question I've lost count, you're telling me in didn't stand up in 2007 against Adelaide, 2008 against the Bulldogs, how about Collingwood Sydney in 2011, 2012 GF?