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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




Full AFL Trade/Draft Key Dates

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Indicative Draft Order

List Changes by Club
 
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Arr0w said:
I think as a whole we have done well

I really like the outcome considering this draft
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Yeah, so far we have not been sucked into getting mediocre players nor players we don’t need

Schultz is the only one we’ve missed IMO
 
zoomba23 said:
Apologies for the intrusion, but is Fisher actually a good kick over <40m distances? Or just average? I know he lacks penetration so he'd surely need another string to his bow if he's been up for selection semi-regularly for a team that made a prelim. Cheers
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He's a good to very good kick in open space. Very one sided though which means he can struggle under pressure.
 

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JuddgementDay said:
Yeah, so far we are not sucked into getting mediocre players nor players we don’t need

Schultz is the only one we’ve missed IMO
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Tbh sounds like Schultz got a direct approach from Collingwood by his manager with a good money deal.

He wasn't obviously on the market

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The Old Dark Navy's said:
Points wise our two picks are worth more than Pick 8, but that's not really the reality. If we were to throw in our F1, I'd want more than just Pick 8.

How about 21, 25, F1 for 8, F2, F3?
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Demons just gave up an extra 1000 points for GC pick

Plus we need a reasonable pick for Hollands

Can't see us chasing pick 8 now, nor would we have the pick capital of other clubs

And, think Cats want decent picks for next year
 
Bluechip66 said:
Why did we give anything for him?
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Good question. Can only think Austin is wanting to try and nab pick 8 from GEE - as has been mooted by some other posters.

Pick 21 = 878 points
Pick 25 = 756 points
TOTAL = 1634 points

Pick 8 = 1551 points
Or Austin sees a couple of late smokeys end rd 1/early round 2 ??...
 
Coona Blues said:
We were never getting Geelong’s Pick with the hand we had. Two picks inside 25 in this draft is quite handy.

Now I can beat the drum for Edwards and Zakostelsky potentially. Also liking Sanchez, Gothard and O’Driscoll, maybe Delean around that range. Other than perhaps Tholstrup, #17 was in no man’s land for mine.
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Correct, if the cats were dealing pick 8 you’d think they would have dealt with Melbourne who just gave up pick 14 and a couple of mid second rounders for a 3 pick upgrade to 11

Doubt pick 17 and a future first would have got pick 8, at which point I’m not interested anyway if it’s anything more


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Arr0w said:
Demons just gave up an extra 1000 points for GC pick

Plus we need a reasonable pick for Hollands

Can't see us chasing pick 8 now, nor would we have the pick capital of other clubs

And, think Cats want decent picks for next year
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Which is fine, but it makes me wonder what Austin was talking about when asked if we were looking to go further up the draft.
 
Stamos said:
I'm a bit disappointed.
Don't think we should have had to slide #17
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l don't think Austin is done yet, he was true to his word with getting a positive outcome with Fisher.

l believe he has the goal of getting a earlier pick & having now two in the top 25 & next year's F1st makes this a possibility which was Austin's goal.
 
woof39 said:
I feel like the difference between SOS and Austin is that SOS was a better negotiator and cared more for getting the better trade, whereas Austin is better at drafting/picking better players and cares less about 'winning' the trade. I know which one I would prefer if you had to choose one. Austin.

If we go in with picks 21 and 25, I have trust that Austin will pick 2 good players. He is saying that pick 21 and 25 are no different to 17 so all of a sudden we have 2 players of the same standard as 17 but no Fisher who wanted out.

Let's not focus on who won the trade but what we get out of it. This one makes a lot of sense.
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SoS was as obsessed with winning grades based on the points system as anyone that has ever been in the afl system. He lived and died by it.
 

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It is a 4 pick downgrade on a late first rounder - 17 to 21 &
an extra 2nd round pick which will be around 30. Remeber fish was drafted at 27

If Fish went for pick 30 it is what he is worth. The downgrade is steak knives within the context of the whole trade.
Good business and this is far better than pick 42. We have an extra 2nd round draft picks for a guy who is 25y0 fringe player
 
zoomba23 said:
Apologies for the intrusion, but is Fisher actually a good kick over <40m distances? Or just average? I know he lacks penetration so he'd surely need another string to his bow if he's been up for selection semi-regularly for a team that made a prelim. Cheers
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Gonna need a couple from your massive bag of picks to answer that zoomba.
 
Waiting to see the rest of the period before judging on giving up 17. Think we’ve done quite well to get a deal like this after first being offered a pick in the 40s. Valued at Pick 31 is about right and in the range he’s worth.

Disappointing for some, sure. But let’s see what unfolds first before getting our backs up. Austin wants to move up the order.
 
KoutaGnome said:
Good question. Can only think Austin is wanting to try and nab pick 8 from GEE - as has been mooted by some other posters.

Pick 21 = 878 points
Pick 25 = 756 points
TOTAL = 1634 points

Pick 8 = 1551 points
Or Austin sees a couple of late smokeys end rd 1/early round 2 ??...
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This is proof the points system is nonsense. Just look at the trade the Dees just did for pick 11 to see how far away 21+25 is from being worth pick 8.
 

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