KermitJagger
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- May 17, 2017
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Do they? Could be indicative of some teams just being better at pressuring inside forward 50.
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Free Kick differential over the last 15 years
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Do they? Could be indicative of some teams just being better at pressuring inside forward 50.
- Jan 3, 2012
- 47,027
- 96,534
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- Richmond
- Other Teams
- Chelsea FC, Victory, All Blecks,
It’s not favouritism, they just play clean football over there, when they travel they get on the turps so infringe more
Actually, the most important one is impossible to get - the number of frees not paid inside the oppositions 50. They are often the momentum killers as it can be a 12 point turn around.
This is home and away though, bet the home factor would be significantly more
CURVE
Formally DEVO
- Sep 8, 2000
- 20,350
- 21,929
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- North Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Eels, Cumbrians, Staggies & Eurofighters
Woohoo! We’re in the top 4.
Top of the ladder, wealthiest, biggest and most respected by umpires for their fair and sporting attitude toward the game.
What's not to love about WCE?
What's not to love about WCE?
Expect a square up this weekend
Thankfully it's bye weekend.
- Apr 3, 2006
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- Geelong
Way to argue against yourself.
The reason #freekickhawthorn was a thing was the crucial, key free kicks you were gifted over a period of time, not for any lopsided differential.
Perhaps Freo will be punished by proxy
This is what happens every time.
We get the correction
- Apr 30, 2015
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- 25,866
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- West Coast
Scott Cummings put it best on radio - Don't fight it, don't argue it. Embrace it. West Coast supporters need to keep up the good work and ensure we continue to win the freekick count. It's working!!!! 
pantskyle
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- Oct 1, 2007
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Well, the lid is well and truly off now, we must be going well if the conspiracy theories are out again.
Now I patiently await the Herald Sun to come out with an interview with an angry ex-player, then I will book my grand final annual leave time.
Now I patiently await the Herald Sun to come out with an interview with an angry ex-player, then I will book my grand final annual leave time.
- Apr 30, 2015
- 14,273
- 25,866
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- West Coast
The table starts in 2003.
The 90s were before 2003.
I'll give you an encouragement award for trying.
Hope WC make the GF and the opposition receives 20 more free kicks, 10 which result in goals, the melts would be delicious.
As have many people suggested, free kicks should approximate zero. This is true across the league since 2003 (first graph). What is interesting though, is very few teams average a zero differential across those years. Now, the hypothesis that the media is putting out there is that over that sort of time, each team should also cluster around zero, since that timeframe would even out all the other factors that affect free kicks like game style etc (and 'noise of affirmation' bias should be cancelled out by opposing bias in away games).
This simply isn't the case though. Only 4 teams in a league of 18 really hit that zero point. All the other teams cluster either side of that. So that assumption that the Eagles are a special case is tenuous at best. It would take most of the other teams averaging a zero differential over that timeframe, which doesn't match the observation.
I think this shows clear evidence of corruption - umpires in West Coast games have obviously been paid off by individual players, bookmakers, the league, the club itself or possibly prominent supporters, systematically over the last 12 years in a intricate plot to secure premierships (so far unsuccessful) and harvest the maximum amount of salt possible from the broader BigFooty online community.
- Dec 2, 2014
- 19,270
- 32,819
- AFL Club
- Essendon
This just shows me that the WCE have the best fans in the league and work the umpires to perfection.
You need to remember that most umpires grew up the nerds at school and were most likely bullied through high school, So in adulthood they try to go over and above to please people, They need to be liked and giving into a big loud crowd to get the applause is too good to pass up.
You need to remember that most umpires grew up the nerds at school and were most likely bullied through high school, So in adulthood they try to go over and above to please people, They need to be liked and giving into a big loud crowd to get the applause is too good to pass up.
- Aug 15, 2009
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- West Coast
That's not the correct maths.
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It is interesting. Of course we have by far the highest free kick differential, that cannot be denied.
The more interesting question is what opposition supporters put that down to.
The more interesting question is what opposition supporters put that down to.
Danger!Selwood
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- May 18, 2016
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Combination of a number of things
1- Sell out crowds for years, membership waiting list etc. Obviously effects the umpires
2- Subiaco was a fast track with a lot of space, not as conducive to a 'contested' game as you'd see at the scg for example.
3- Quality rucks, a lot of free kicks are won in the ruck.
4- Quality midfielders who win their own ball- Cousins, Judd, Kerr, Priddis, Shuey and many more I've missed no doubt.
Its almost the perfect storm of factors for the eagles.
1- Sell out crowds for years, membership waiting list etc. Obviously effects the umpires
2- Subiaco was a fast track with a lot of space, not as conducive to a 'contested' game as you'd see at the scg for example.
3- Quality rucks, a lot of free kicks are won in the ruck.
4- Quality midfielders who win their own ball- Cousins, Judd, Kerr, Priddis, Shuey and many more I've missed no doubt.
Its almost the perfect storm of factors for the eagles.
