Fremantle Dockers 2018/19 season watch

[Heaps of fun]

To watch? No, I won't be watching much of them.

 

[demondavey]

He's been nursing a minor injury, hasn't played since AFLX.

Seems unlikely to get a game early on since Alex Pearce is back. Will need for Michael Johnson to get injured or dropped to force his way into the side.

Thoughts on him though? Think he will be able to be a staging post down back?

 

[ydraw]

Thoughts on him though? Think he will be able to be a staging post down back?

Think hell be pretty good as a tall mobile defender.

 

[demondavey]

I must overrate Freo a tad but in my mind they've always been a side on the brink of the 8 with a fully fit Fyfe. If Taberner can have a 'breakout' year with Pearce and Sandilands staying fit I don't see why a top 8 finish isn't possible.

I think so. Fyfe is elite. Best player in the competition when up and firing. Feel he is the complete package. If one of their forwards can break out, I’ll give them a top 8 chance, or between the two of McCarthy and Taberner they kick 80 goals.

 

[demondavey]

Think hell be pretty good as a tall mobile defender.

I’ve always thought he was a good size. Maybe he could be a bit like Frost or T-Mac?

 

[Unique Name]

Fair enough, though Ibbotson did play the first 10 rounds. Spurr played most of the season until the last few. Dropping Griffin was just going back to Sandilands rucking solo, and I'm not sure why Ross Lyon thought a Sandi/Griffin combo was a good idea in the first place. A couple of promising players (Ryan, Darcy) didn't get a look in until after the 6-3 start.

Suban seemed to fall back into favour the second half of the year and I guess Pearce is in the mix while both Hills are out. At least now Suban, Ibbotson, Dawson, Griffin, Clarke are off the list the temptation to go back to those guys won't be there.

Ryan had ankle and hip issues until Rnd 6. Played 4 WAFL games then came in Freo's side for the rest of the season..... apart from his club suspension for having a drink.

Darcy got games once Sandi went down. As you said, not many teams were playing two rucks.

Our injury list was pretty horrendous last year which allowed so of the has-beens back into the side near the end of the season.

 

[Unique Name]

We play all of last years bottom nine sides in Perth which might inflate our wins a little. I'm hoping between 8 and 11 wins. Would love to take a nice top team scalp along the way.

 

[Freomaniac]

Honestly I thought they were lucky to win 8 games last year, they went 4-1 in games decided by under a goal. They've got a couple elite players in Fyfe and Neale who when playing well enable them to challenge just about any team, big dropoff after their top 6 or so though. I think they'll do well to match their 2017 output.

I have stated this many times.... 2016 was nothing short of an aberration or a fluke. It was just a season where everything went wrong. Freo in 2016 scored 73 points a game and conceded 96 and freo got 4 wins. On the other hand Freo of 2017 scored 72 points a game and conceded 98 yet got 8 wins.

In 2016 the only close games we had was the loss to carlton by under a goal and the 3 goal losses to cats and GWS.

Now you claim Freo were lucky to get 8 wins. Actually I will name all the results freo had under 3 goals.

Round 3 vs Dogs at subi: 16 point win
Round 4 vs Demons at mcg: 2 point win
Round 5 vs Roos at subi: 5 point win
Round 8 vs tigers at MCG: 2 point win
Round 14 vs Cats in Geelong: 2 point loss
Round 15 vs Saints at Subi: 8 point loss
Round 16 vs North at docklands: 4 point win
Round 19 vs GWS at Blacktown: 13 point loss
Round 23 vs Essendon at Docklands: 14 point loss.

So yeah freo had their fair shire of close games, that also means they were way more competitive in 2017 compared to 2016.

Hell I would even add the round 11 loss vs Collingwood as a close loss as we were level with them late in the game and lost by 20 points

I found it funny freo has the worst best 22. I disagree.

As I have stated in other threads. I don't care if freo average 10 goals a game this season. I expect freo in 2018 to have games scoring 5-8 goals and lose by a fair margin... I also expect freo to grind out 20-30 point wins when they are kicking 12-15 goals.

Freo last year had some shockers. Kicked 5 goals vs west coast and swans and got beaten convincingly. Then kick 17 goals vs Essendon and got one of our biggest wins of the season.

 

[schmuttt]

I have stated this many times.... 2016 was nothing short of an aberration or a fluke. It was just a season where everything went wrong. Freo in 2016 scored 73 points a game and conceded 96 and freo got 4 wins. On the other hand Freo of 2017 scored 72 points a game and conceded 98 yet got 8 wins.

In 2016 the only close games we had was the loss to carlton by under a goal and the 3 goal losses to cats and GWS.

Now you claim Freo were lucky to get 8 wins. Actually I will name all the results freo had under 3 goals.

Round 3 vs Dogs at subi: 16 point win
Round 4 vs Demons at mcg: 2 point win
Round 5 vs Roos at subi: 5 point win
Round 8 vs tigers at MCG: 2 point win
Round 14 vs Cats in Geelong: 2 point loss
Round 15 vs Saints at Subi: 8 point loss
Round 16 vs North at docklands: 4 point win
Round 19 vs GWS at Blacktown: 13 point loss
Round 23 vs Essendon at Docklands: 14 point loss.

So yeah freo had their fair shire of close games, that also means they were way more competitive in 2017 compared to 2016.

Hell I would even add the round 11 loss vs Collingwood as a close loss as we were level with them late in the game and lost by 20 points

I found it funny freo has the worst best 22. I disagree.

As I have stated in other threads. I don't care if freo average 10 goals a game this season. I expect freo in 2018 to have games scoring 5-8 goals and lose by a fair margin... I also expect freo to grind out 20-30 point wins when they are kicking 12-15 goals.

Freo last year had some shockers. Kicked 5 goals vs west coast and swans and got beaten convincingly. Then kick 17 goals vs Essendon and got one of our biggest wins of the season.

How were you way more competitive in 2017 than 2016 when your % was roughly the same? Yes you won a couple extra games but you also got absolutely flattened by 100+ multiple times. 2017 was the aberration where you won 8 games with a terrible %, not 2016.

 

[Clems Knee]

How were you way more competitive in 2017 than 2016 when your % was roughly the same? Yes you won a couple extra games but you also got absolutely flattened by 100+ multiple times. 2017 was the aberration where you won 8 games with a terrible %, not 2016.

In 2016 Freo were competitive (within 20 points of the opposition or winning) in just 7 games.
In 2017 Freo were competitive in 13 games. The 100 point blowouts skewed the percentages last year.

 

[eastfreo75]

Freo were 6-3 after 9 games played last year? WTF Happened after that?


holy shit turkish.

Melbourne, North Melbourne and Richmond had chances to ice the game but didn't. Made us look better than what we were. Lose those games and it's 3-6.

Also, after that we got injuries and the new kids did ok but run out of stream.

 

[schmuttt]

In 2016 Freo were competitive (within 20 points of the opposition or winning) in just 7 games.
In 2017 Freo were competitive in 13 games. The 100 point blowouts skewed the percentages last year.

Fair call.

 

[Macpotata]

Melbourne, North Melbourne and Richmond had chances to ice the game but didn't. Made us look better than what we were. Lose those games and it's 3-6.

Also, after that we got injuries and the new kids did ok but run out of stream.

I forgot about that north game. North choked hard didn't they t

 

[eastfreo75]

I forgot about that north game. North choked hard didn't they t

Goldstein 30m out and kicks a point.

 

[Macpotata]

Goldstein 30m out and kicks a point.

Lol that was the game! I thought so. I think north did that again later in the season at Etihad.

**** they really fell off from the previous 3 seasons

 

[Forward Press]

I like how they are rebuilding and they have unearthed some gems. Weller hurts but getting pick 2 for him helps a lot and Brayshaw might be a superstar. Backline does its job with some genuine talent there, midfield is up there (they have ready-made replacements for Mundy), and in the forward line I think Taberner can become something along with McCarthy, although Kersten seems to be a bit of a bust. Walters is one of the best small forwards around and I think it's a mistake to put him in the midfield.

I still hope they fail though.

/bias

 

[Freomaniac]

How were you way more competitive in 2017 than 2016 when your % was roughly the same? Yes you won a couple extra games but you also got absolutely flattened by 100+ multiple times. 2017 was the aberration where you won 8 games with a terrible %, not 2016.

in 2016, freo were 4-18 and we should of got 6-7 wins. After how freo went in 2017, 2016 was a fluke. In 2016, everything went wrong. Personally, I couldn't of given a shit. About the 89 point loss to Port, the 100 point loss to the crows and the 104 point losses to swans and tigers, that evened out with those 4 wins by under a goal.

Just because freo averaged 10 goals a game, it didn't mean they were going to lose every game Freo had some horrible games kicking 5-6 goals. They also grinded out wins kicking 12-14 goals.

Saying that.... I wasn't even angry when freo lost by 100 points to Adelaide 143-43. Just happy freo were 6-4 not 0-10.

You know what I will give you 2 scenarios both times the demons average 70 points a game and concede 100 which means your % is 70%.

Scenario 1:
Round 1 Demons lose to Port Adelaide at Adelaide oval 5.10.40 to 20.10.130.
Round 2: Demons beat the suns at the MCG 15.10.100 to 10.10.70

Round 3: Demons Lose to West coast at WA 7.8.50 to 18.12.120
Round 4: Demons beat Freo at MCG 13.12.90 to 12.8.80

Round 5: Demons lose to the crows at Adelaide oval 22.8.140 to demons 5.10.40
Round 6: Demons beat the lions at the mcg 15.10.100 to 8.12.60

Round 7: Swans beat the demons at the scg 20.10.130 to 8.12.60
Round 8: Demons beat GWS at the mcg 12.8.80 to 10.10.70

So that scenario ends up as 4 (home) wins and 4 (away) losses. 70 for, 100 against.

Scenario 2:

Round 1 Demons lose to Port Adelaide at Adelaide oval 16.10.106 to 10.10.70.
Round 2: Demons lose to the suns at the MCG 14.10.94 to 10.10.70

Round 3: Demons Lose to West coast at WA 15.10.100 to 12.9.81
Round 4: Demons lose to Freo at MCG 15.10.100 to 10.9.69

Round 5: Demons lose to the crows at Adelaide oval 17.10.112 to 10.10.70
Round 6: Demons lose the lions at the mcg 13.10.88 to 11.10.70

Round 7: Swans beat the demons at the scg 15.10.100 to 12.8.80
Round 8: Demons lose GWS at the mcg 15.10.100 to 8.12.60

So that ends up as 0 wins, 8 losses. oh and 70 points for, 100 against.


You get 2 choices while scoring 70 points a game and conceding 100. with a % of 70

Scenario 1 gives you 4 wins and 4 defeats.
Scenario 2 gives you 0 wins and 8 defeats.

take your pick. I know which one I would take. Knowing you as a demons fan. you love the legendary mark Neeld as the demons coach in that awesome 2012 and 2013 period would know the answer and happy to go 0-8

 

[Freomaniac]

I like how they are rebuilding and they have unearthed some gems. Weller hurts but getting pick 2 for him helps a lot and Brayshaw might be a superstar. Backline does its job with some genuine talent there, midfield is up there (they have ready-made replacements for Mundy), and in the forward line I think Taberner can become something along with McCarthy, although Kersten seems to be a bit of a bust. Walters is one of the best small forwards around and I think it's a mistake to put him in the midfield.

I still hope they fail though.

/bias

Kersten is a bit of a bust? Far from it. 24 goals from 20 games in 2017. I would rather have Kersten on freos list than Jack Anthony or that Whoremonger in Colin Sylvia

 

[Power Raid]

could be some tough times in 2018 but it'll be great to see youth develop and the side take shape. 2019 will be better with further drafting and perhaps even some free agency stuff

 

[Bicco]

in 2016, freo were 4-18 and we should of got 6-7 wins. After how freo went in 2017, 2016 was a fluke. In 2016, everything went wrong. Personally, I couldn't of given a shit. About the 89 point loss to Port, the 100 point loss to the crows and the 104 point losses to swans and tigers, that evened out with those 4 wins by under a goal.

Just because freo averaged 10 goals a game, it didn't mean they were going to lose every game Freo had some horrible games kicking 5-6 goals. They also grinded out wins kicking 12-14 goals.

Saying that.... I wasn't even angry when freo lost by 100 points to Adelaide 143-43. Just happy freo were 6-4 not 0-10.

You know what I will give you 2 scenarios both times the demons average 70 points a game and concede 100 which means your % is 70%.

Scenario 1:
Round 1 Demons lose to Port Adelaide at Adelaide oval 5.10.40 to 20.10.130.
Round 2: Demons lose the suns at the MCG 15.10.100 to 10.10.70

Round 3: Demons Lose to West coast at WA 7.8.50 to 18.12.120
Round 4: Demons lose to Freo at MCG 13.12.90 to 12.8.80

Round 5: Demons lose to the crows at Adelaide oval 22.8.140 to demons 5.10.40
Round 6: Demons lose the lions at the mcg 15.10.100 to 8.12.60

Round 7: Swans beat the demons at the scg 20.10.130 to 8.12.60
Round 8: Demons lose GWS at the mcg 12.8.80 to 10.10.70

So that scenario ends up as 4 (home) wins and 4 (away) losses. 70 for, 100 against.

Scenario 2:

Round 1 Demons lose to Port Adelaide at Adelaide oval 16.10.106 to 10.10.70.
Round 2: Demons lose to the suns at the MCG 14.10.94 to 10.10.70

Round 3: Demons Lose to West coast at WA 15.10.100 to 12.9.81
Round 4: Demons lose to Freo at MCG 15.10.100 to 10.9.69

Round 5: Demons lose to the crows at Adelaide oval 17.10.112 to 10.10.70
Round 6: Demons lose the lions at the mcg 13.10.88 to 11.10.70

Round 7: Swans beat the demons at the scg 15.10.100 to 12.8.80
Round 8: Demons lose GWS at the mcg 15.10.100 to 8.12.60

So that ends up as 0 wins, 8 losses. oh and 70 points for, 100 against.


You get 2 choices while scoring 70 points a game and conceding 100. with a % of 70

Scenario 1 gives you 4 wins and 4 defeats.
Scenario 2 gives you 0 wins and 8 defeats.

take your pick. I know which one I would take. Knowing you as a demons fan. you love the legendary mark Neeld as the demons coach in that awesome 2012 and 2013 period would know the answer and happy to go 0-8

The way I read that is Melbourne lose every game.

 

[Freomaniac]

The way I read that is Melbourne lose every game.

woops... sorry, got to edit it lol

 

[wild side]

How’s Griffen Logue looking?

Big year for Logue, he needs to develop coz our backline is not a weakness

 

[theprospect]

I like how they are rebuilding and they have unearthed some gems. Weller hurts but getting pick 2 for him helps a lot and Brayshaw might be a superstar. Backline does its job with some genuine talent there, midfield is up there (they have ready-made replacements for Mundy), and in the forward line I think Taberner can become something along with McCarthy, although Kersten seems to be a bit of a bust. Walters is one of the best small forwards around and I think it's a mistake to put him in the midfield.

I still hope they fail though.

/bias

Brayshaw will comfortably be twice the player Weller could ever be, one of the most lop-sided trades of all time

 

[Joao]

Brayshaw will comfortably be twice the player Weller could ever be, one of the most lop-sided trades of all time

Hope so. Think the Cameron <-> Fogarty one might give it a run for its money TBH.

 

[Altum Volantes]

If Fyfe and Sandilands play the majority of the games - and they have a good run of injury in general - then I think they can play finals.

Fyfe will keep them in enough games and Sandilands is still one of the best rucks around.

They’ve got a crop of really promising young guys and players like Neale, the Hills and Walters in their prime.