Fremantle Under Longmuir

[MadMundy]

I seriously hope people finally catch on to what I've been saying about Luke Ryan for years too, he's lazy, doesn't put enough work in, looks almost out of shape, does not deserve the praise he gets because he pads his stats with cheap disposals.

 

[Freomaniac]

And yes I would take Ken Hinkley at this point

 

[Heater3923]

Longmuir as an assistant came to Collingwood and rejuvenated the defence very well. However, our attack was always suspect and we found weird and wonderful ways to lose close games decided by under 6 points or less. Fremantle under Longmuir just remind me of his era of Collingwood.

 

[MadMundy]

If we do sack him we need Rawlings to take over instead of Graham, he gives me the same boring and dull vibes Longmuir does.

Rawlings was the runner up behind Longmuir years ago, see if he can do something with the list, he seems to be more of a hard arse at least.

 

[Joao]

And yes I would take Ken Hinkley at this point

 

[Lockyer24]

Coaching for his career next week

 

[Priddis Is Done]

One paced pigmy midfield

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I think they missed a trick with Henry and Acres leaving in the last few years. They are desperate for wingers and they lost the two they actually had.

Feel the midfield has become unbalanced ever since.

 

[Sully90]

He won't last til the bye round, maybe even earlier. That Geelong game was beginning of the end.

 

[Scorpus]

He's done the typical bad coach move of creating a gameplan for the players he wishes he has, instead of actually has

Fremantle do not have powerful contested marking forwards. They have Amiss who is slightly built and Treacy who is barely average height for a 2025 key forward. Jackson, an athletic tall, sometimes plays there. And they've got Frederick with pace and just recruited Shai Bolton, but you wouldn't say tons of small crumbing forwards to sit at the bottom of big packs.

There is no way that forward line will succeed with a slow, high kicking gameplan. That's a forward line that needs space and speed for accurate kicks to leading players.

It seems like Longmuir wants a rolling stoppage situation with all the slow play, control and kicks to contests, where the focus is winning clearances and territory. That's great if you have a powerful midfield that can turn stoppages into precision passes up the ground and into a crowded 50, but Fremantle's midfield isn't that. They should be using their clearance winners to find space but the gameplan is built around hacking it forward and doesn't seem well suited to a player like Shai Bolton at all, who they just spent big on

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

He's done the typical bad coach move of creating a gameplan for the players he wishes he has, instead of actually has

Fremantle do not have powerful contested marking forwards. They have Amiss who is slightly built and Treacy who is barely average height for a 2025 key forward. Jackson, an athletic tall, sometimes plays there. And they've got Frederick with pace and just recruited Shai Bolton, but you wouldn't say tons of small crumbing forwards to sit at the bottom of big packs.

There is no way that forward line will succeed with a slow, high kicking gameplan. That's a forward line that needs space and speed for accurate kicks to leading players.

It seems like Longmuir wants a rolling stoppage situation with all the slow play, control and kicks to contests, where the focus is winning clearances and territory. That's great if you have a powerful midfield that can turn stoppages into precision passes up the ground and into a crowded 50, but Fremantle's midfield isn't that. They should be using their clearance winners to find space but the gameplan is built around hacking it forward and doesn't seem well suited to a player like Shai Bolton at all, who they just spent big on

That’s the midfield he has though…. Brayshaw/Serong/O’Meara are not running away from the contest with blistering pace to get a quick inside 50

 

[Scorpus]

That’s the midfield he has though…. Brayshaw/Serong/O’Meara are not running away from the contest with blistering pace to get a quick inside 50

They aren't, but that doesn't matter. Clearance winners like them can still be super effective if they're finding space with their ball use and getting it in the hands of their better kicks outside the contest. Instead Longmuir has them go down the line, often from a hack panic kick, and move the ball slowly. That's a complete waste of clearance wins.

Why move Young into the midfield and recruit Bolton if you're going to largely just hack it forwards and play slow?

And their gameplan lacks any sort of attempt at transition. They've got guys like Clark, Ryan and Chapman in defense but no real plan to penetrate zones moving forward and create space and free options up the field.

 

[Freomaniac]

I think they missed a trick with Henry and Acres leaving in the last few years. They are desperate for wingers and they lost the two they actually had.

Feel the midfield has become unbalanced ever since.

Liam Henry wanted out regardless

 

[jakefooty23]

I think they missed a trick with Henry and Acres leaving in the last few years. They are desperate for wingers and they lost the two they actually had.

Feel the midfield has become unbalanced ever since.

Geez, out of all the shit calls this takes the cake

 

[bzparkes]

The midfield is capable of top 8 but isn’t a premiership midfield. Undersized, too same same, lacks any point of difference etc

Err, I think you've forgotten Hayden Young exists.

 

[jakefooty23]

Err, I think you've forgotten Hayden Young exists.

Yup, he's the one alright. He kept us in majority of our games end of last season, absolute freak

 

[gianytee]

I never fully got the top 4 hype with the way they threw away last year. Agree they lack X factors but I don’t feel the player bashing is correct right now, there play style is god awful that game today was rolling stoppages in modern footy which just limits your team to X factors getting it done and that’s not freos one wood. Need to adjust there game plan to take any steps forward

 

[jakefooty23]

Longmuir just isn't cut out to be a head coach, not now not ever, he isn't good enough tactically nor does he get enough out of his players. I have used every excuse in the world to try and get around this bloke and have at times found myself feeling sorry for him, But enough is enough. If we want to take the next step as a football club, contend and actually be respected then these are the calls we have to make.

 

[taurus]

He's done the typical bad coach move of creating a gameplan for the players he wishes he has, instead of actually has

Fremantle do not have powerful contested marking forwards. They have Amiss who is slightly built and Treacy who is barely average height for a 2025 key forward. Jackson, an athletic tall, sometimes plays there. And they've got Frederick with pace and just recruited Shai Bolton, but you wouldn't say tons of small crumbing forwards to sit at the bottom of big packs.

There is no way that forward line will succeed with a slow, high kicking gameplan. That's a forward line that needs space and speed for accurate kicks to leading players.

It seems like Longmuir wants a rolling stoppage situation with all the slow play, control and kicks to contests, where the focus is winning clearances and territory. That's great if you have a powerful midfield that can turn stoppages into precision passes up the ground and into a crowded 50, but Fremantle's midfield isn't that. They should be using their clearance winners to find space but the gameplan is built around hacking it forward and doesn't seem well suited to a player like Shai Bolton at all, who they just spent big on

Nailed it.

JL wants Freo to be like Carlton, not withstanding the fact that the Blues are struggling in the modern AFL.

It was apparent that the emperor has no clothes when they were Flagmantle 2 or 3 years ago: they have only one game plan, slow build up to shit forwards.

JL has to go. Like Vossy, the game has moved on.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Geez, out of all the shit calls this takes the cake

Dude, your best winger is a delisted Gold Coast player. The other wing normally has a guy a like Brayshaw on it. I think it’s a issue

 

[swanny1234]

He’s so bad that there is genuinely a part of me that thinks losing to the Eagles next week may be better for the long term future of this club. He is genuinely torching a talented list with the worst gameplan in the comp.
He needs to be sacked, yesterday.

 

[WilloTree]

I think they missed a trick with Henry and Acres leaving in the last few years. They are desperate for wingers and they lost the two they actually had.

Feel the midfield has become unbalanced ever since.

I thought O'Driscoll and Sharp were excellent yesterday. It's probably the one area of the ground Freo aren't short for options.

 

[demondavey]

He’s so bad that there is genuinely a part of me that thinks losing to the Eagles next week may be better for the long term future of this club. He is genuinely torching a talented list with the worst gameplan in the comp.
He needs to be sacked, yesterday.

Unfortunately the young Eagles will be pretty wrecked after a trip to Brisbane. I’d expect a strong Fremantle win but that will likely paper over the cracks. I understand the trip to Geelong is tough, but losing as you did is pretty damning, along with blowing yesterday’s game.

If WC win after travelling to Brisbane then I’d be thinking conversations are getting fast tracked given you’d be 0-3 and finals virtually done.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

The bizarre choice to switch him over to that wishy washy ‘we can sack you whenever no biggie’ arrangement was fascinating. Surely Longmuir can’t have been happy with that?

It’s ok to put a 5 year coach that has played finals once under pressure by not having a contract in place beyond this season. Sure the jungle drums will start beating if things are going poorly but that’s ok, you probably move on if that’s the case.

You don’t need to give him ‘job security’ or whatever the spin was - just let his contract run and then if you want to keep him, give him 2 more years (or whatever) based on the results you see.

If things don’t go to plan this season, he won’t make it through the year and they’ll pursue an experienced coach to take the squad to the next level - Longmire first name that’ll get thrown up and then Beveridge - I’d say Bevo more likely of the two, good fit for Freo in a lot of ways.

If Longmuir does get them up and running, into finals and looking good, they should give him a real contract and back the guy in.

Is it possible that he happily accepted those terms rather than be sacked?

 

[Elixuh]

Err, I think you've forgotten Hayden Young exists.

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