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[M Malice]

Surely we can't play home games in another city(Metricon) for 4 years, it would decimate our Membership base.

 

[M Malice]

Yeah how dare I want an area going through rapid population increase to have a school close by. Especially one that has been there for a century and pre-dates the Gabba. The audacity!

Wasn't the scuttlebutt that they are thinking of moving the school to be part of Coorparoo Secondary College? Only 1.5km away from the Gabba along a major road.

Dutton Park(3.5km), Buranda(1.4km) and Coorparoo(2.9km) State Schools are also reasonably close and could absorb some students as well.

 

[Section 5]

Wasn't the scuttlebutt that they are thinking of moving the school to be part of Coorparoo Secondary College? Only 1.5km away from the Gabba along a major road.

Dutton Park(3.5km), Buranda(1.4km) and Coorparoo(2.9km) State Schools are also reasonably close and could absorb some students as well.

Not scuttlebutt M Malice
Below a few details from the Media Statement. Then link to full statement.

Published Thursday, 03 August, 2023 at 09:58 AM

Minister for Education, Minister for Industrial Relations and Minister for Racing
The Honourable Grace Grace

• Outcome of community consultation announced today
• A new state of the art standalone East Brisbane State School will be built on the nearby Coorparoo Secondary College site
• More than $100 million to be invested, facilities will include a swimming pool
• New school buildings ready by 2026
• East Brisbane State School name remains

The underutilised 11-hectare college site is a short distance away, has extensive green space, safe drop off zones, and capacity for the expected future growth in the EBSS community. The current constrained 1.5-hectare site is bordered by three main roads, has limited access to green space, and limited capacity to expand.

Current Years 4, 5, and 6 students will finish their studies at the existing site and younger students will move to the new site.

The possibility of building the school on other sites was raised during consultation. However, alternative sites were either too small, would not be ready in time for 2026, or would require compulsory acquisition of multiple local homes and businesses – something that is only possible as a last resort and when no other suitable site is available.

Brand new home for East Brisbane State School

statements.qld.gov.au

 

[M Malice]

Not scuttlebutt M Malice
Below a few details from the Media Statement. Then link to full statement.

Published Thursday, 03 August, 2023 at 09:58 AM

Minister for Education, Minister for Industrial Relations and Minister for Racing
The Honourable Grace Grace

• Outcome of community consultation announced today
• A new state of the art standalone East Brisbane State School will be built on the nearby Coorparoo Secondary College site
• More than $100 million to be invested, facilities will include a swimming pool
• New school buildings ready by 2026
• East Brisbane State School name remains

The underutilised 11-hectare college site is a short distance away, has extensive green space, safe drop off zones, and capacity for the expected future growth in the EBSS community. The current constrained 1.5-hectare site is bordered by three main roads, has limited access to green space, and limited capacity to expand.

Current Years 4, 5, and 6 students will finish their studies at the existing site and younger students will move to the new site.

The possibility of building the school on other sites was raised during consultation. However, alternative sites were either too small, would not be ready in time for 2026, or would require compulsory acquisition of multiple local homes and businesses – something that is only possible as a last resort and when no other suitable site is available.

Brand new home for East Brisbane State School

statements.qld.gov.au

Makes perfect sense, bigger and better, also no room for expansion on the current site.

 

[Section 5]

An interesting article on what happened years ago during Australias last Olympics.

Who will grab a piece of the Gabba? History fuels hopes for some Olympic recycling

Eighteen years after it was completed, the Gabba will be rebuilt. Last time that happened, an entire stand was transported almost 1400 kilometres north.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

.........................

Engineers are working out how to demolish the Gabba again — after fewer than 20 years’ service to Queensland sports fans.

But the end might not necessarily be the end. There are hopes parts of the stadium will resurface at other venues across the state.

After all, there’s precedent.

Last time the Gabba was demolished for an Olympic rebuild, one of its old grandstands ended up almost 1400 kilometres away in Cairns.

The deal was done and the stand headed north on the back of a fleet of semi-trailers. About “20 or 30” of them, as Bibby recalled.

What happened next was akin to putting together a giant Meccano set.

The former Gabba grandstand at Cazalys Stadium in Cairns.

 

[MSB ROYS]

The hill at the Gabba was the best place to watch and have a few drinks!

 

[dlanod]

An interesting article on what happened years ago during Australias last Olympics.

Who will grab a piece of the Gabba? History fuels hopes for some Olympic recycling

Eighteen years after it was completed, the Gabba will be rebuilt. Last time that happened, an entire stand was transported almost 1400 kilometres north.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au

.........................

Engineers are working out how to demolish the Gabba again — after fewer than 20 years’ service to Queensland sports fans.

But the end might not necessarily be the end. There are hopes parts of the stadium will resurface at other venues across the state.

After all, there’s precedent.

Last time the Gabba was demolished for an Olympic rebuild, one of its old grandstands ended up almost 1400 kilometres away in Cairns.

The deal was done and the stand headed north on the back of a fleet of semi-trailers. About “20 or 30” of them, as Bibby recalled.

What happened next was akin to putting together a giant Meccano set.

The former Gabba grandstand at Cazalys Stadium in Cairns.

Watched the Lions from that stand. The Aussie cricket team too.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

That stand was only in place at the Gabba for a few years. They moved us from the stand that was demolished into it. It was ok, nothing special, obviously a temporary solution at the time

 

[Warwick]

The hill at the Gabba was the best place to watch and have a few drinks!

That’s gonna take a few trucks to relocate elsewhere.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Wasn't the scuttlebutt that they are thinking of moving the school to be part of Coorparoo Secondary College? Only 1.5km away from the Gabba along a major road.

Dutton Park(3.5km), Buranda(1.4km) and Coorparoo(2.9km) State Schools are also reasonably close and could absorb some students as well.

None of them are close. Coorparoo is a contingency plan. It isn't ideal for a primary school.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

None of them are close. Coorparoo is a contingency plan. It isn't ideal for a primary school.

Is being on a site bounded by 3 busy roads ideal for a primary school? I don't think you could pick a worse spot.

But why not get the government to simply buy up some property nearby? Sounds easy.

 

[Dalions]

Is being on a site bounded by 3 busy roads ideal for a primary school? I don't think you could pick a worse spot.

But why not get the government to simply by up some property nearby? Sounds easy.

You mean like where it currently is?

 

[Section 5]

Is being on a site bounded by 3 busy roads ideal for a primary school? I don't think you could pick a worse spot.

But why not get the government to simply by up some property nearby? Sounds easy.

You forgot the Australian National Hotel with 40 poker machines across the road.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

You mean like where it currently is?

Knda ( exactly) what I was getting at.

 

[lionraven]

I walked past that school last week. I would definitely pull my kids out of such a school and get them tested for heavy metals poisoning given the roads and industrial sites right next to it.

 

[Walshawk]

The government can buy it out. Really they should buy it out if we play at the Showground stadium, why should a private asset be upgraded using public money?

Showgrounds is heritage listed as well. No chance.

 

[Section 5]

I walk past the play area of this school every game day as i park my car nearby.
Then i get a bus home. I started doing this in the covid times and kept it up.
Have plenty of time on my hands these days.

The play area is actually smaller than it appears on these photos.
On AFL game days a reasonable part of this area is used for parking.
I assume the same would apply during Cricket season.
I suppose the P & C can put the money to good use.

As can be seen in the bottom photo around 1/5 of the green space is very rough and hardly any grass.
Most likely due to weekend carparking mentioned above.
There would obviously be some other small arears for the students (253) to do some sort of play/exercise/rest/eat.

I do not know what condition the classrooms are in, but a brand-new school would have better facilities for the students.

Closing a functioning school is politically bad and they can expect backlash for this at the next election.
But Governments need to do what is right for the future of the Wooloongabba precinct, so risky political decisions need to be taken.
Come the start of 2026 the students will move schools just like they have to do at some stage of their education to go to the nearest high school.
However, this time it will involve much younger children.
Parents with young children change jobs and move to new locations all the time.
It is hard on the children, but they make new friends and fit in soon enough.
This time they take all their friends with them and most likely the majority of the teachers.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Knda ( exactly) what I was getting at.

I think we should move the roads. The school was there first after all

 

[Viceregal]

Looks like a great place to go outside and run around and suck in all that clean air ...

 

[buttermuffs]

I hope it’s Carrara. Selfishly. Having lived interstate for a number of years it would be good to be able to attend every home game for once.

But as a whole prob not ideal. But I feel its the best option financially compared to other suggestions floating around which would require 10s of millions to develop. At least from state government POV.

I think lions games at Carrara will still sell well. Probably get a bigger average attendance than suns games.

That’s fair. I wouldn’t mind the idea of having a single home game down at Melbourne during those years. Give us another MCG game if we can’t play at the Gabba.


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[mighty_lions]

I just hope if we do that (an away home game in Melbourne) that it’s only against another non-VIC team - Swans could work given there large support base like a Fitzroy v Sth Melbourne game or even against another interstate team with an solid support base in Melbourne. I reckon a Lions v Swans game in Melbourne would easily get 30K supporters to it.

there's no chance it would get 30k, we got 28k at a home game at the Gabba against Sydney this year

 

[Viceregal]

there's no chance it would get 30k, we got 28k at a home game at the Gabba against Sydney this year

Thinking Fitzroy v South aat the MCG might draw better than Lions v Swans at the Gabba especially if marketed right ... I don't suppose they play VAFA games there as well do they (double header)

 

[Roylion]

Thinking Fitzroy v South aat the MCG might draw better than Lions v Swans at the Gabba especially if marketed right ... I don't suppose they play VAFA games there as well do they (double header)

They did in 2003. At the MCG. It was a double-header on Saturday afternoon. Was a great day.

The MCG is 4 km from the Brunswick St Oval. Marvel Stadium to the Brunswick Street Oval is 6 km.

 

[royboys4eva]

I just hope if we do that (an away home game in Melbourne) that it’s only against another non-VIC team - Swans could work given there large support base like a Fitzroy v Sth Melbourne game or even against another interstate team with an solid support base in Melbourne. I reckon a Lions v Swans game in Melbourne would easily get 30K supporters to it.

Outstanding suggestion. AFL not smart enough to do this.

Lions really should be pushing for an extra Melbourne game while the Gabba redevelopment is taking place.

Put some money into Brunswick oval and play GWS there in the season. Would easily get 15k.

 

[knaf]

Outstanding suggestion. AFL not smart enough to do this.

Lions really should be pushing for an extra Melbourne game while the Gabba redevelopment is taking place.

Put some money into Brunswick oval and play GWS there in the season. Would easily get 15k.

I would love to see a game at the Brunswick street oval but capacity would be less than that ground in the Adelaide Hills. Not sure I would trust the City of Yarra to decide and do an upgrade in the six year time frame. Expect very high NIMBY resistance.