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[Happy_Neale]

The new stadium will have its back to the Brisbane cbd skyline, bookmark it.

Is this a Jared Jansen reference??

 

[Elixuh]

Is this a Jared Jansen reference??

If you know you know

 

[Happy_Neale]

If you know you know

What a throwback. All that’s missing is a Dr Pinskier reference

 

[dlanod]

What a throwback. All that’s missing is a Dr Pinskier reference

That was the strangest of a strange time.

 

[Elixuh]

What a throwback. All that’s missing is a Dr Pinskier reference

I’m just glad someone got my niche reference

 

[Happy_Neale]

That was the strangest of a strange time.

I was in second year undergrad at the time and the whole saga occurred in the lead up to exams, safe to say many an hour that should have been spent studying was spent on Bigfooty instead.

 

[Grasshopper17]

My thought is that if vic park happens, what will happen to the Gabba once its built? Will it just get demolished? But I do believe it's the best scenario, because it saves the headache of the lions finding a temporary ground to play in for the next few years. The thought of our peak years being spent playing in Gold Coast or are brighton is really quite depressing. Also, can we make sure that if Vic Park does happen, it will match the exact dimensions of the MCG?

This all makes so much sense. It almost seemed like by the time we'd really nailed down how we wanted to play, it actually suited the MCG more than it did the Gabba. And maybe that's why we lost as many games at the Gabba as we did this year.

 

[Grasshopper17]

I'm not sure what happened in WA and SA and what the respective Governments did with the land when they went from Subiaco Oval / Football Park to Optus Stadium / Adelaide Oval but having been to Perth a fair bit for work over the years and to see the Lions, Subiaco Oval was in a prime spot (same as the WACA come to think of it but I think cricket is still played there and not Optus Stadium (why I have NFI given how good that stadium is)) but you'd assume the Governments would have been able to offset (lesser extent SA as Adelaide Oval was already there) the cists of the new builds by disposing of those old stadiums / land.

Couldn't the same apply to QLD Govt if they built Vic Park by cashing in on selling the Gabba site for whatever?

I think those grounds essentially became lower level training bases etc. Similar to Waverley Park.

 

[Grasshopper17]

They have to maximise the Cross River Rail

So if you demolish the GABBA and have a 15k Rod Laver style arena (retractable roof) like the Brisbane Entertainment centre there it can be used for NBL, WNBL, Netball, concerts etc and you sell the land left over and the light towers to property developers for some coin and get some $ from the AFL to help with the Vic Park cost

AFL could sell 25% or 50% of their share in Marvel to stump up $500m or so for Vic Park for say a 25% share in the new QLD Stadium

Make the capacity 70k, or at least allow the potential for it to hold 70k, and give the AFL a viable alternative Grand Final host venue in 30 years when the current contract expires.

Think big folks.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

A Gabba rebuild to me is replacing the hideous coloured seats.

 

[SizeMatters]

My thought is that if vic park happens, what will happen to the Gabba once its built? Will it just get demolished? But I do believe it's the best scenario, because it saves the headache of the lions finding a temporary ground to play in for the next few years. The thought of our peak years being spent playing in Gold Coast or are brighton is really quite depressing. Also, can we make sure that if Vic Park does happen, it will match the exact dimensions of the MCG?

After some TLC - Stadium for the 2038 third QLD expansion team?

 

[Happy_Neale]

Thinking about it the GABBA rebuild probably makes the most sense politically unfortunately. Means they get what basically equates to a ‘new’ stadium without having to backflip (sorry Johnny Bananas ) on their election promises plus it delivers the legacy option as well. And all they have to do is displace that backwater sport AFL for a few years to make it happen.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Thinking about it the GABBA rebuild probably makes the most sense politically unfortunately. Means they get what basically equates to a ‘new’ stadium without having to backflip (sorry Johnny Bananas ) on their election promises plus it delivers the legacy option as well. And all they have to do is displace that backwater sport AFL for a few years to make it happen.

Yeah politically it's the only thing Crisafulli can do. I've kinda resigned myself to it at this point. Would have preferred Vic Park or Hamilton, but here we are. See you at Carrara in 2027 everyone!

 

[Dalions]

Yeah politically it's the only thing Crisafulli can do. I've kinda resigned myself to it at this point. Would have preferred Vic Park or Hamilton, but here we are. See you at Carrara in 2027 everyone!

There is another option still at this point.
And that’s to build a stadium via Consortium/Private investors.
That way the Government doesn’t have to pay and he is therefore not backflipping on his election promise of “no new stadium” if it is not being paid for by Tax Payers.

 

[Perrip]

There is another option still at this point.
And that’s to build a stadium via Consortium/Private investors.
That way the Government doesn’t have to pay and he is therefore not backflipping on his election promise of “no new stadium” if it is not being paid for by Tax Payers.

There was a report earlier in the year that a group of private business bosses had approached senior LNP people about doing this.

 

[Dalions]

There was a report earlier in the year that a group of private business bosses had approached senior LNP people about doing this.

Had also heard that Labour were considering a backflip on their QSAC plan if they had won on the weekend too.
Possibly also leaning towards a private built stadium.
But it is all just scuttlebutt I guess until we hear anything more formal.

 

[Section 5]

A lot of posters seem to be changing their mind over Crisafulli "no new stadium" stance.
Lots were saying after the election he will change his mind and spin his way out. Thats still a chance of course.

He has a few ways out. He just needs to give smarter conditions in the terms of reference to the review panel.
As long as he does not stipulate "no new stadium is to be considered" in the terms of reference, he will be fine.
This way whatever the panel comes up with he has a way out. Much easier to spin it then.
However, don't hold your breath that he will word it that way though.
Politicians are about everything political not what's logical or on spending public money wisely.

The best way for Lions and cricket to get a new stadium and stay at The Gabba is for the Federal Government to drop their commitment and funding for Brisbane Arena.
They can site a variety of reasons. Then there's plenty of money for a new stadium.
The spotlight should now fall on them now with an election in the next 6 months.
If you are in the Lilley federal electorate, Anaka Wells is the Minister for sport.
She has a meeting with David Crisafulli in the very near future after his phone conversation with the PM
If you are outside her electorate i doubt you get a reply.

 

[Section 5]

Thinking about it the GABBA rebuild probably makes the most sense politically unfortunately. Means they get what basically equates to a ‘new’ stadium without having to backflip (sorry Johnny Bananas ) on their election promises plus it delivers the legacy option as well. And all they have to do is displace that backwater sport AFL for a few years to make it happen.

I pointed out to Anika Wells Federal minister for Sport that a rebuild is a new stadium.
Also saying David Crisafulli would surely know this and is just playing with words.
She has a meeting in the near future with David Crisafulli.

 

[Grasshopper17]

The best way for Lions and cricket to get a new stadium and stay at The Gabba is for the Federal Government to drop their commitment and funding for Brisbane Arena.
They can site a variety of reasons. Then there's plenty of money for a new stadium.
The spotlight should now fall on them now with an election in the next 6 months.

Right. So another 6+ months of absolutely ZERO PROGRESS being made. On ANYTHING.

Got it. Fantastic.

 

[mighty_lions]

I pointed out to Anika Wells Federal minister for Sport that a rebuild is a new stadium.
Also saying David Crisafulli would surely know this and is just playing with words.
She has a meeting in the near future with David Crisafulli.

that's also what annoys me, "no new stadium", well wtf is a rebuild

 

[Schache_off]

Perhaps Ive got the story mixed up but I thought the Gabba was pretty unlikely as part of the solution for the olympics. The space between Vulture and Stanley street being too narrow for a stadium that will be suitable for the olympics. One of the main reasons being they still would have poor access for driving equipment under the stadium which limits the ability to use the stadium for other big events. The other one was access for people with disabilities so I assume if they want a big stadium for track and field, the Gabba doesn't work for the Paralympics.

 

[wantok]

I have written to Tim Mander congratulating him on his resounding win and highlighting the political impact of ignoring the needs of the Lions and the greater AFL as well as Queensland Cricket in their future decisions. Crisafulli and Mander are Rugby League tragics and will naturally through personal history or poor knowledge devalue other codes. Get active folks. It'sTime.

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[Section 5]

Right. So another 6+ months of absolutely ZERO PROGRESS being made. On ANYTHING.

Got it. Fantastic.

It is going to be 3+ months minimum anyhow before the Premier makes any decision
I don't hold out hopes that Anika Wells will change course. But no pressure has been put on them like it was on Miles.
They have votes to consider now after Labor lost quite a few Brisbane seats.
The stadium issue was part of why they lost seats in Brisbane in my opinion. Other issues were bigger, but the Olympic stadium was also a big issue.
I could be cynical and say that with the new premier we no longer have to worry about cost of living or crime so that only leaves the stadium as a big issue.
There is a petition to stop the new site at Roma Street Parklands (RSP). However, that is set to go to the Qld government.

Also Swimming Australia are not finished either. The submission they made to Qld. Labor in February fell on deaf ears.
They will now focus it towards the Commonwealth government.
They do not want a drop in pool. They want a new facility. They also think the Brisbane Arena funding could be put to better use without any suggestions other than a new swimming venue.

Anika Wells reply to me in March was there is no push from the Qld Government to drop the Brisbane Arena, and at present they are tied to Brisbane Arena under the funding agreement.
She also mentioned they will have to approve any findings on the total costs of the Brisbane Arena.
The funding agreement can be changed as it was when Miles went with QSAC. it will change again.

 

[Section 5]

Anyone contacting Tim Mander or Anika Wells please keep you opinion civil.
Especially any federal Minister as the first auto reply has the sentence below.

"Correspondence that is threatening or intimidatory will be forwarded to the Australian Federal Police."

 

[GenericUsername202]

A Gabba rebuild to me is replacing the hideous coloured seats.

Used to work to our advantage 5 years ago when we couldn't draw a crowd above 20,000. The coloured seats gave the illusion there were more people than there actually was, lol.