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[notliondown]

I know we will continue to wring our hands over this for the next 100+ days - me as much as anyone - but it's pretty clear we have NFI as to how this will play out.

The language and positioning of key players has more fluidity than the Brisbane River.

And if we are honest, we know whatever is said now is easily re-framed and re-shaped to suit whatever outcome they like in 130 days. And there will be a million and one excuses as to why whatever they come up with is the right thing.

I'm hoping Crisafulli has sort of been at arms length as to any real in depth discussion about this because until now it hasn't really mattered and it was given short shift as a side issue when they were in opposition. It was an easy push back topic and one that really didn't require too much thought apart from not scaring the horses.

His promise that this committee is independent is vital. And that a costed - because NONE of these proposals have actually been costed as admitted by Miles (Bold is the closest to having been market tested) - and detailed report will change minds and open eyes.

Once they actually have to find value and legacy in their decision a bit more than lip service might have to prevail.

 

[lionraven]

I hope they try killing all the poors in their modelling. Im pretty sure that would give us the best outcome.

 

[mighty_lions]

https://archive.md/wkD1N

Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner’s shock rethink on Gabba 2032 Games stadium plan​

 

[Billy ray]

Surely you put it at Victoria Park, right next to the stadium.

But toombul will save money as you wont need to manually fill it up with water

I was just fooling around

 

[Johnny Bananas]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/qld-politics/lnp-on-collision-course-with-feds-over-games-funding/news-story/a0ff9e7cc15042b1a1aaaaf78b09c11e

LNP on collision course with feds over Games funding​

An Olympic and Paralympic Games funding war is brewing, with federal Infrastructure Minister Catherine King slapping down Queensland’s attempt to revisit the agreement to split the cost of the event.

After new state Infrastructure Minister Jarrod Bleijie’s declared all Games venues and funding agreements would be on the table as part of the LNP’s 100-day review, Ms King warned uncertainty would lead to cost blowouts and construction delays.

The Courier-Mail on Tuesday revealed the state had inquired with the federal government about using some of the cash allocated to the $2.5bn Brisbane Arena – or the $935m for minor venues – to help build its main athletics stadium.

It prompted Ms King to write to Mr Bleijie warning him against attempting to rewrite their funding agreement.

“It is the Commonwealth’s expectation that this agreement continues,” she said.

“Significant progress is being made on these projects with the Brisbane Arena joint business case well under way, and a significant number of minor venues program projects already approved and under procurement.

“The Commonwealth is concerned that any delay to these projects as a result of another review risks increasing the costs of these important projects and will ultimately mean projects are delayed and Queensland taxpayers have to pay more, as construction costs increase.”

Ms King said the Brisbane Arena and minor venues with finalised business cases should continue to progress.

Bad news, Section 5

 

[Grasshopper17]

But toombul will save money as you wont need to manually fill it up with water

I was just fooling around

My bad. Thanks for exposing my lack of understanding of Brisbane's topography!

 

[Grasshopper17]

Ms King warned uncertainty would lead to cost blowouts and construction delays.

Oh well we wouldn't want any of those now would we Ms King. Oh, wait...

 

[Elixuh]

I’ve been saying it for years. Fill in the Brisbane river and build it in the green space created near the cbd.

 

[Section 5]

https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/qld-politics/lnp-on-collision-course-with-feds-over-games-funding/news-story/a0ff9e7cc15042b1a1aaaaf78b09c11e

LNP on collision course with feds over Games funding​

Bad news, Section 5

Politicians are the pits.
I agree with one thing Catherine King says and that the Minor Venues is well under way and just leave that alone.
This is about the only thing that has progressed in 3 years.
Posters may be asking who Catherine King MP is.
She recently signed (22/8/24) the updated Minor Venues agreement with Grace Grace.

https://federalfinancialrelations.gov.au/sites/federalfinancialrelations.gov.au/files/2024-09/Brisbane%202032%20MVP%20FFA%20-%20Sept%202024.pdf

I can't find a similar document for Brisbane Arena so maybe it is not advanced enough to get resigned by both state and federal

I love Catherine Kings comment "Ms King warned uncertainty would lead to cost blowouts and construction delays".
Maybe she has forgotten that the Brisbane Arena costs blew out to over $4 billion (Quirk Review).
And that was before any construction started.
Quirk had to recommend some other sites but settled on one very close by, being Roma Street Parkland and recommended an urgent validation report into the site.
I am not sure what that validation report will reveal when it finally surfaces.
I doubt it will be within the $2.5 billion maximum commitment by the commonwealth.

The Commonwealth were always worried about The Gabba costs blowouts.
This is why then PM Morrison opted for Brisbane Arena (Brisbane Live), a so-called safer bet, with funding to a maximum of $2.5 billion in case they were wrong. The state funds any excess.
So, it looks like it is getting back to the uncertainty on costs regarding The Gabba. Full circle after years of nothing.

King also mentions "with the Brisbane Arena joint business case well under way".
What does this actually mean as they are still awaiting a validation report as far as i know. Surely that's a starting point.
It most likely means that they have made a joint business plan with someone like Live Nation or Harvey Listers company ASM Global. Maybe some penalties if either party pulls out.
What if the validation report comes in at $3 billion will they still proceed because things are "well under way"