Game day experience in Melbourne

[tige19]

Port's match day experience has improved dramatically, and whilst the interstate clubs may have some of the smaller Vic clubs beaten in terms of crowd and atmosphere, a contending Port/Crows/Eagles/Dockers won't/doesn't come close to a contending Collingwood/Richmond.

You saw what happened when the Tigers made that final in 2013... nearly 95k to an Elimination Final is unheard of, and they were blowing the proverbial roof off the joint.

The loudest and craziest crowd experience you will ever get, is a Richmond or Collingwood final at the MCG.

And if Richmond actually PLAYED Collingwood in a final? You'd get more people and a better atmosphere to a Richmond Vs. Collingwood EF, than you would to a Port Adelaide Vs. anybody GF imo.

Richmond are not Collingwoods a$$hole, you blokes are like Port Adelaide with Adelaide. Stop trying to promote your club like a colossus , Richmond are no greater in size than any of Essendon/Carlton or Hawthorn.

Self entitleness and insecurities running strong in this thread.

 

[Hellgood]

If you want to experience game day go to any a league match

Hahaha.

Of course yesterday wasn't rabid. The game was over in the second term - Geelong supporters shocked and Hawk fans rightfully smugly satisfied at their teams performance. Nothing to get tense or aggressive about. Seems like an OP designed to get a few bites and I suppose it's worked.

 

[Pessimistic]

All I can say is, you should have seen us in 08, absolutely feral and indignant we could go the whole way.

Therell be plenty of passion this sunday as we make known our feelings about hird and what happened in the eighties - even though not may of us were there.

On the other hand, My daughter and I had promised to 'behave' better at the footy this year. I wonder if the whole crowd had done that. Cant see it lasting though

 

[chazwazza]

If SA footy supporters and the public in general keep wanking on about Adelaide Oval and "match day experience" the whole f***ing state will go blind.
Nice tree pissing attempt by the OP anyway, that and chest thumping is what Port supporters do best......lately.

 

[mondaynight]

Richmond are not Collingwoods a$$hole, you blokes are like Port Adelaide with Adelaide. Stop trying to promote your club like a colossus , Richmond are no greater in size than any of Essendon/Carlton or Hawthorn.

Self entitleness and insecurities running strong in this thread.

Lol bit rich coming from a Hawks fan. You guys are nowhere near the "big 4" but continue to try and act like one of the big boys. Richmond is probably the only one challenging Collingwood in terms of support at the moment. They're way out in front of the rest of the Vic teams

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Yesterday was a shit game, that's the major factor I think

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Your sample size is one game with a huge margin.

 

[tige19]

Lol bit rich coming from a Hawks fan. You guys are nowhere near the "big 4" but continue to try and act like one of the big boys. Richmond is probably the only one challenging Collingwood in terms of support at the moment. They're way out in front of the rest of the Vic teams

Money, Membership, Assets and Success seems to say otherwise.. But hey, who lives in the world of facts?

 

[vonn]

Read the post. I just don't think Victorian crowds are as loud and passionate as they perhaps might have been. It's you people who started pinging me for being a Port supporter. I have always thought Adelaide crowds have been louder than Victorian crowds, pound for pound. Call us feral or rabid or whatever, it is just a plain fact, and increasingly so.

Maybe you guys are just more feral and rabid full stop. Is it an impossible concept that you don't have to act like an imbecile at a football match to be passionate?

 

[mondaynight]

Money, Membership, Assets and Success seems to say otherwise.. But hey, who lives in the world of facts?

Certainly not you

 

[welshm69]

Money, Membership, Assets and Success seems to say otherwise.. But hey, who lives in the world of facts?

What about average crowd figures and supporter numbers overall? By the way last I saw you guys had less members than Richmond. Now considering the lack of on field success Richmond have had that is a darn good effort. I wouldn't mind betting when Richmond are up and going they will drown any other club in support. Nonetheless Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond and even Carlton are still ahead of you guys on supporter numbers.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Richmond are not Collingwoods a$$hole, you blokes are like Port Adelaide with Adelaide. Stop trying to promote your club like a colossus , Richmond are no greater in size than any of Essendon/Carlton or Hawthorn.

Self entitleness and insecurities running strong in this thread.

 

[StonesThrow]

While I think it's amusing how some port fans think they have the greatest support base on earth, I have to say I was a bit let down by my first MCG game yesterday.

Firstly the amount of advertising is ridiculous. Constantly being bombarded with adverts and prices for things. I get more annoyed about this than most but it seems to get worse and worse and takes away from the atmosphere. AO is guilty of this as well.

The dance cam......

I also expected it to be a lot louder given the two sides and the amount of people. Was similar to a crows game at times, which can also be oddly quiet.

Maybe I just picked the wrong game.

 

[The King!]

I took the loveometer to a hawks game at the g and they only got a 10, port at adelaide oval measures 35

They love footy more

 

[ReaperX]

Richmond are not Collingwoods a$$hole, you blokes are like Port Adelaide with Adelaide. Stop trying to promote your club like a colossus , Richmond are no greater in size than any of Essendon/Carlton or Hawthorn.

Self entitleness and insecurities running strong in this thread.

Yeah, we're not their a$$hole... we're their equal mate.

We may even be bigger than them actually, in terms of untapped potential.

You wait until we're an actual flag contender, and a genuine on-field threat.

The Hawks are red-lining in 5th gear due to their on field success, but numbers will drop off once that fades away. Tigers are in 3rd gear and already pushing the Hawks in terms of memberships, and winning comfortably in terms of attendances.

 

[tige19]

What about average crowd figures and supporter numbers overall? By the way last I saw you guys had less members than Richmond. Now considering the lack of on field success Richmond have had that is a darn good effort. I wouldn't mind betting when Richmond are up and going they will drown any other club in support. Nonetheless Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond and even Carlton are still ahead of you guys on supporter numbers.

Just to debunk you and to make you look a little more sillier than you already are I will happily share with you some basic numbers.

2014 -

Avg attendance:
Hawthorn - 46,248 ( yes and this includes Tasmanian games )
Richmond - 36,701

Avg Home attendance 2014:
Hawthorn - 42,728 ( Yes INCLUDING Tasmanian games )
Richmond - 43,195

Memberships 2014:
Hawthorn - 65,494
Richmond - 63,486

Membership 2015:
Hawthorn - 67,995
Richmond - 66,587

Twitter followers:
Hawthorn - 55,600
Richmond - 48,800

Instagram followers:
Hawthorn - 66,900
Richmond - 54,800

Facebook followers/likes:
Hawthorn - 259,628
Richmond - 168,225

If you want I can go into the financials? You let me know.

Either one of two things are happening here... Richmond supporters DO NOT use any forms of social media and/or our numbers are fudged? It's a plain myth that Richmond is this all conquering machine ready to explode when and IF they become successful. What a load of crap! Every cat and his dog use facebook, every supporter has the right to attend games and buy memberships. Now we certainly don't dwarf Richmond but the numbers speak for themselves, the facts are there. Hawthorn are not Collingwoods size, we still trail Essendon as a collective however to suggest Richmond outnumber are us is factually incorrect.

 

[tige19]

Yeah, we're not their a$$hole... we're their equal mate.

We may even be bigger than them actually, in terms of untapped potential.

You wait until we're an actual flag contender, and a genuine on-field threat.

The Hawks are red-lining in 5th gear due to their on field success, but numbers will drop off once that fades away. Tigers are in 3rd gear and already pushing the Hawks in terms of memberships, and winning comfortably in terms of attendances.

Yawn.

 

[mondaynight]

Just to debunk you and to make you look a little more sillier than you already are I will happily share with you some basic numbers.

2014 -

Avg attendance:
Hawthorn - 46,248 ( yes and this includes Tasmanian games )
Richmond - 36,701

Avg Home attendance 2014:
Hawthorn - 42,728 ( Yes INCLUDING Tasmanian games )
Richmond - 43,195

Memberships 2014:
Hawthorn - 65,494
Richmond - 63,486

Membership 2015:
Hawthorn - 67,995
Richmond - 66,587

Twitter followers:
Hawthorn - 55,600
Richmond - 48,800

Instagram followers:
Hawthorn - 66,900
Richmond - 54,800

Facebook followers/likes:
Hawthorn - 259,628
Richmond - 168,225

If you want I can go into the financials? You let me know.

Either one of two things are happening here... Richmond supporters DO NOT use any forms of social media and/or our numbers are fudged? It's a plain myth that Richmond is this all conquering machine ready to explode when and IF they become successful. What a load of crap! Every cat and his dog use facebook, every supporter has the right to attend games and buy memberships. Now we certainly don't dwarf Richmond but the numbers speak for themselves, the facts are there. Hawthorn are not Collingwoods size, we still trail Essendon as a collective however to suggest Richmond outnumber are us is factually incorrect.

All this proves is that Hawks fans spend too much time on the net. Your long winded meaningless post highlights this point.

 

[Hawkk]

Hawthorn are interesting. I'm not sure they are quite at home at the G. So many of their supporters seem casual to me, but maybe that's rude. I think 4 home games at Tasmania is a bigger difference than being forced in to 1-2 at Etihad as Coll, Richmond (and Melb) are. I think more than a few would love to still be at Waverley (with a refurbishment and public transport etc etc).

People say this but Waverley was only Hawthorn's home ground for 9 years (we've not been at the MCG for 15 years), we've had far more success at the MCG (3 flags v 1 flag) and our crowds are much larger:

MCG average crowd for home and away games (not including finals) for 2000 - onwards
7,498,634 over 167 games (average 44,902)

Waverley Park average crowd for home and away games (not including finals) for 1991 - 1999
2,776,340 over 100 games (average 27,763)

Our highest / lowest season average at the MCG (58,121 in 2013 / 28,430 in 2004) are both larger than Waverley Park (35,438 in 1992 / 25,006 in 1995)

Believe me there are a lot of Hawthorn supporters that are opposed to playing games in Tasmania (just read our board) and the odd home game we have played at Ethiad has caused significant angst amongst our supporters (we play Port at Ethiad this year + we played West Coast at Ethiad in 2013 - which drew a respectable 32,583)

I think the casual effect comes down to the fact that we have basically belted all comers (Geelong aside) at the ground since 2008. When we were rubbish (1995 - 2007) our fans were much more feral. But I definitely feel that the MCG is home for our supporters, our attendance average at the ground hasn't dipped below 50,000 since 2007. Had we still be at Waverley Park (isolated from 60% of the Melbourne population) there is no way that we would have got the bandwagon jumpers that now rock up to our games.


There is a pretty good article about the importance of playing home games at the MCG in this thread (its 7 years old)

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hawks-win-big-in-docklands-dodge.576337/

 

[ReaperX]

Hawthorn also played in 2 extra games, a PF and a GF, which skews the numbers.

Still, one thing that nobody can deny is that Hawks are maxing out right now. But so they should, they have played in 3 straight GF's. Not surprised at all that they are superior in social media, your numbers are bound to be boosted when you are playing off in GF's, as those big games attract casual fans the most and inflate the figures.

When this era ends though, Hawks will return to the pack a bit, and if Tigers can tap into their untapped potential by having some on field success, the trends do suggest that the Tigers have the capacity to be as big as Collingwood are currently, and certainly bigger than Hawks.

 

[kickazz]

Just to debunk you and to make you look a little more sillier than you already are I will happily share with you some basic numbers.

2014 -

Avg attendance:
Hawthorn - 46,248 ( yes and this includes Tasmanian games )
Richmond - 36,701

Avg Home attendance 2014:
Hawthorn - 42,728 ( Yes INCLUDING Tasmanian games )
Richmond - 43,195

Memberships 2014:
Hawthorn - 65,494
Richmond - 63,486

Membership 2015:
Hawthorn - 67,995
Richmond - 66,587

Twitter followers:
Hawthorn - 55,600
Richmond - 48,800

Instagram followers:
Hawthorn - 66,900
Richmond - 54,800

Facebook followers/likes:
Hawthorn - 259,628
Richmond - 168,225

If you want I can go into the financials? You let me know.

Either one of two things are happening here... Richmond supporters DO NOT use any forms of social media and/or our numbers are fudged? It's a plain myth that Richmond is this all conquering machine ready to explode when and IF they become successful. What a load of crap! Every cat and his dog use facebook, every supporter has the right to attend games and buy memberships. Now we certainly don't dwarf Richmond but the numbers speak for themselves, the facts are there. Hawthorn are not Collingwoods size, we still trail Essendon as a collective however to suggest Richmond outnumber are us is factually incorrect.

Yes but hawks are good and tigers not so. Will hawthorn retain the numbers when the chips are down?

In my life Richmond have always been shit. Dunno what it will be like when they are good. Probably unbearable.

 

[Hawkk]

Lol bit rich coming from a Hawks fan. You guys are nowhere near the "big 4" but continue to try and act like one of the big boys. Richmond is probably the only one challenging Collingwood in terms of support at the moment. They're way out in front of the rest of the Vic teams

I really cant be ****ed with this topic anymore having debunked it on numerious occasions.

So I suggest you read the following article instead:

From merger meeting to premiership dynasty: Inside Hawthorn’s rise to greatness

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...ise-to-greatness/story-fnp04d70-1227291330994

The Herald Sun charts the nine key moments that turned this club around and turned it into the most powerful club in Australia...

...and part 2

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...is-in-2004-draft/story-fnp04d70-1227292150371

Pretty good summary really

 

[Hawkk]

Yes but hawks are good and tigers not so. Will hawthorn retain the numbers when the chips are down?

In my life Richmond have always been shit. Dunno what it will be like when they are good. Probably unbearable.

10 years after winning 1980 the Tigers numbers weren't particularly flash

Richmond Average h/a attendance and memberships

1987 - 17377 / membership not disclosed
1988 - 17004 / membership not disclosed
1989 - 19556 / membership not disclosed
1990 - 20333 / membership not disclosed
1991 - 21295 / membership not disclosed
1992 - 21677 / 8158
1993 - 24202 / 9918
1994 - 29377 / 8229
1995 - 39898 / 14647

I always thought their fans stuck through thick and thin?

As fickle as Hawthorn fans are (and we are very fickle - between 2004 and 2013 our average MCG gate jumped between 28,884 and 58,121) we never dipped below 20,000 (and we have never had the base that the Tigers had in the 1970s and 1980s)

So loyalty and fickleness is all relative

Hawthorn also played in 2 extra games, a PF and a GF, which skews the numbers.

Still, one thing that nobody can deny is that Hawks are maxing out right now. But so they should, they have played in 3 straight GF's. Not surprised at all that they are superior in social media, your numbers are bound to be boosted when you are playing off in GF's, as those big games attract casual fans the most and inflate the figures.

When this era ends though, Hawks will return to the pack a bit, and if Tigers can tap into their untapped potential by having some on field success, the trends do suggest that the Tigers have the capacity to be as big as Collingwood are currently, and certainly bigger than Hawks.

Probably a fair point. That said Hawthorn play 4 games in Tasmania (which is a significant noose around the neck of our attendances) yet were the 3rd highest drawing club for home and away games last year - a fine achievement given our draw.

Given Hawthorn were responsible for 4/6 home and away games that drew 70,000+ (including 3/7 of our home games at the MCG) imagine how much greater our crowds would have been if we didn't play Brisbane (35,492 and 39,007 last time we hosted them in Melbourne), W Bulldogs (42,198 and 47,474 last time we hosted them in Melbourne), Gold Coast (28,112 and 23,098 last time we hosted them in Melbourne) and West Coast (32,567 and 50,023 last time we hosted them in Melbourne) in Melbourne instead of in front of 13,000 in Launceston

We go alright with our crowds considering the constraints. It would be great if we could play Carlton and Essendon twice at the MCG every season for example. Are we bigger than Richmond today? Absolutely. If / when Richmond finally win another flag will they pass us again, if its sometime over the next 20 years absolutely. But I just hope for the Tigers sake that they get success as Melbourne from the 1980s to today is a classic example of a big club that lost a generation of fans through lack of success. Melbourne was a massive club (in terms of crowds) as late as the early 1990s...now look at them (and even when they made and won finals in the early 2000s)

Anyway I'll see myself out of the shitstorm!

 

[kickazz]

10 years after winning 1980 the Tigers numbers weren't particularly flash

Richmond Average h/a attendance and memberships

1987 - 17377 / membership not disclosed
1988 - 17004 / membership not disclosed
1989 - 19556 / membership not disclosed
1990 - 20333 / membership not disclosed
1991 - 21295 / membership not disclosed
1992 - 21677 / 8158
1993 - 24202 / 9918
1994 - 29377 / 8229
1995 - 39898 / 14647

I always thought their fans stuck through thick and thin?

As fickle as Hawthorn fans are (and we are very fickle - between 2004 and 2013 our average MCG gate jumped between 28,884 and 58,121) we never dipped below 20,000



Probably a fair point. That said Hawthorn play 4 games in Tasmania (which is a significant noose around the neck of our attendances) yet were the 3rd highest drawing club for home and away games last year.

Given Hawthorn were responsible for 4/6 home and away games that drew 70,000+ (including 3/7 of our home games at the MCG) imagine how much greater our crowds would have been if we didn't play Brisbane (35,492 and 39,007 last time we hosted them in Melbourne), W Bulldogs (42,198 and 47,474 last time we hosted them in Melbourne), Gold Coast (28,112 and 23,098 last time we hosted them in Melbourne) and West Coast (32,567 and 50,023 last time we hosted them in Melbourne) in Melbourne instead of in front of 13,000 in Launceston

We go alright with our crowds considering the constraints. It would be great if we could play Carlton and Essendon twice at the MCG every season for example...

Anyway I'll see myself out of the shitstorm!

 

[kickazz]

Why did you start Richmond stats from 1987 and finish at 1995?