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Gary Handball Jr. - A Disturbing Trend
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Do you know how stupid you sound?
I'm extremely angry at Gary this week. His 24 handballs and only 5 kicks cost me a supercoach win [I lost by 5 points]. One or two kicks instead of handballs would've changed that. 
But he's a superstar, the handballing fits in with Geelong's gameplan. He's still extremely damaging, just not as damaging per possession as he could be. Alan Didak - for example - had 34 possessions, and 29 of them were kicks, and he tore the game apart and won it for us.
But he's a superstar, the handballing fits in with Geelong's gameplan. He's still extremely damaging, just not as damaging per possession as he could be. Alan Didak - for example - had 34 possessions, and 29 of them were kicks, and he tore the game apart and won it for us.
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130 handballs until the ledger is squared
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Everybody handballs, but some do it to excess, and to pad their stats.
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The lack of a decent counter-argument in this thread has been disappointing. Clearly there is no defence for Gary Handball, and even his No.1 groupie has written an article about his stat padding in today's HUN.
No...there have been numerous decent counter-arguments. You just choose to ignore them.
It's simple...He is tagged and swarmed when he get's the ball (which you ridiculously deny), forcing him to dish off a hand-ball to a team-mate who finds himself in space because Gaz has drawn a crowd.
He uses the 1-2 to great effect because of his pace and work ethic and the fact is that it does, again, draw the defender away.
You insist his only motivation to handball is to gain stats so he gets a Brownlow. Clearly if he were to run, carry and kick, he would be more noticeable to the umpires, who don't use stats anyway!
Irrefutable, simple and true...
Be honest for once in your life and just admit that you are (a) simply trolling the best player in the AFL and (b) you are desperately ramping up your post count because it feeds your ego in your own thread.
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There's no decent counter-argument because there is no decent argument on your part.
You are stating that handballing is bad - it is not.
You are stating that the motivation is to 'pad his stats' - but you have given no evidence or reasoning for this beyond lololol Brownlow tears etc.
You are stating that Ablett has only had one player tag him this year - this is rubbish.
Of course no one is going to bother arguing with garbage.
You're like the bloke with the sandwich board telling everyone the end is nigh, except you have the gall to complain no one is taking you seriously.
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Yet he doesn't get the best tagger. Geelong supporters have admitted this. So a player who doesn't even draw the best tagger is somehow forced to 1-2 his way to freedom?
You're just making a case now. If we look at things without any bias, it's clear that he's stat-padding.They don't use stats, but they presumably notice each time a player gets the ball. Gary has seemingly made it his mission to get as much of the ball as possible, hence the handball 1-2s.
Neither of these.
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I said none of those things, they are just your oversimplifications of my arguments because you can't refute my actual contentions.
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I don't particularly give a shit about your actual contentions, but I did read this:
Will I get an apology?
And the whole basis for this thread has to be that handballing is inferior to kicking. Otherwise, what is your point?
Yet he doesn't get the best tagger. Geelong supporters have admitted this. So a player who doesn't even draw the best tagger is somehow forced to 1-2 his way to freedom?
They don't use stats, but they presumably notice each time a player gets the ball. Gary has seemingly made it his mission to get as much of the ball as possible, hence the handball 1-2s.
Re the above: All factually incorrect and borderline delusional.
Enjoy the rest of your thread. As is usual, you have now moved beyond being an amusing bit of sport, to just being repetitively stupid and ignorant of facts other than things you simply make up to suit your own paranoid ramblings.
All those Handballs will probably get the bloke the Brownlow this year.The guy's a champion of the game.
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Have you ever played footy mate? If you had you'd know that to handball you still have to get the ball. If Gary wanted to, he could blaze away and kick it everytime. He doesn't handball to pad stats, he handballs to someone in a better position to kick it and better the teams position on the field.
You seem to be obsessed with stats, hence why this aggravates you, however anyone thats played football at even a mediocre standard understands that whilst Ablett may handball alot his handballs are just as damaging as many players' kicks.
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Whats funny is that weeks ago when we played the Doggies and Gaz had a few shots at goal from 50 meters out on the run some people had a go at him for being a selfish player only playing for the brownlow. They said he could have given it of to someone in a better position.
Yet we also get drop kicks like HP having a go at him for handballing because apparently this is selfish aswell and hes only playing for the brownlow.
So there you have it. He is selfish and only playing for the brownlow when he kicks aswell as when he handballs... apparently. Maybe he should just stand still and watch the players around him do all the work. But then HP or some other ******* would probably come out and say Gaz needs to go get his own ball, hes being selfish making others do the work.
You cant win with shit kickers like HP its like talking to a brick wall.
Yet we also get drop kicks like HP having a go at him for handballing because apparently this is selfish aswell and hes only playing for the brownlow.
So there you have it. He is selfish and only playing for the brownlow when he kicks aswell as when he handballs... apparently. Maybe he should just stand still and watch the players around him do all the work. But then HP or some other ******* would probably come out and say Gaz needs to go get his own ball, hes being selfish making others do the work.
You cant win with shit kickers like HP its like talking to a brick wall.
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The only concern is your propensity to stink up BigFooty with shit threads like this.
But wait. Didn't you say Sewell tagged Ablett out of the game in the second half of our round 1 clash, yet now you say Shirley is the only player to tag Ablett this year? Make up your mind dipstick.
Maybe the reason Ablett doesn't get tagged as much anymore is because clubs have figured out that he will still have an impact on the game and pick up 30+ touches regardless, so they try to lessen the impact of another midfielder instead.
Have you ever played footy mate? If you had you'd know that to handball you still have to get the ball. If Gary wanted to, he could blaze away and kick it everytime. He doesn't handball to pad stats, he handballs to someone in a better position to kick it and better the teams position on the field.
You seem to be obsessed with stats, hence why this aggravates you, however anyone thats played football at even a mediocre standard understands that whilst Ablett may handball alot his handballs are just as damaging as many players' kicks.
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I hope you're not including all those 'damaging' one-two's he throws in. He's an elite player who could have a far bigger effect on the game if he managed to get boot to ball. Champion Data did not award him a single 'long kick' on the weekend. That is very poor for one of the top players in the league.
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Tagged him to shreds for half a game, yes. I didn't include it because it was, as I said, half a game.
Maybe this, maybe that.
Sounds like wishful thinking to me. Stop making a case already.
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There is a middle ground between selfish stat-padding and selfish low percentage shots for goal.
Centering the ball, for one. Or spotting up a player at half-forward.
Etc.
How does handballing a lot make him more noticeable to the umpires if handballing isnt cool?
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nah i think the fact that over half of his possessions against fremantle were contested is more of a reason why the umpires notice him.
