Geelong 2007-2022. 73% win rate, 12x preliminary finals, 6x grand finals and 4x premierships

[Falcon3518]

Aside from when they do.

Last three flags they won were part of a 5 year streak where they fluffed a Grand Final they were hot favourites for, and a straight sets exit.

Our three flags in a five year streak included a fluffed grand final and a prelim exit. So what’s the difference? You just said Hawthorn never choke but they choked clearly in as many grand finals as we did during our last dynasty. What’s your reason for that?

Have you not interacted with humans before? It’s colloquial language (meaning they’ve hardly done it compared to the rest), did you seriously think I meant hawks have never choked once in AFL history. Like wtf man.


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[PhatBoy]

Have you not interacted with humans before? It’s colloquial language (meaning they’ve hardly done it compared to the rest), did you seriously think I meant hawks have never choked once in AFL history. Like wtf man.


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They’ve had two dynasties of note and they’ve choked away a flag in at least half of those dynasties (maybe both: I haven’t looked deeply enough into their other major one).

 

[Falcon3518]

They’ve had two dynasties of note and they’ve choked away a flag in at least half of those dynasties (maybe both: I haven’t looked deeply enough into their other major one).

They’ve gone 13-6 in GFs according to Fadge. How much better do you want it. The strike rate has got to be one of the best.


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[PJays]

Still riding the waves of the father son bonanza they had in the early noughties

Hawthorn and St Kilda had multiple top priority picks, Brisbane got Chris Johnson and Jarrod Molloy (who they traded for Mal Michael) from Fitzroy, GWS and GC had a seeming infinity of top picks.

None of those clubs turned it into a 15 year era of success

What defines Geelong for mine is their incredible ability to create stars out of mature age recruits or no names

Taylor, Podsiadly, Blicavs, Stewart, Kelly (whose trade booty they forwarded for Cameron), Stengle. It's happened time and time again.

Does any other club come close to Geelong in this area?

 

[Sky]

They’ve gone 13-6 in GFs according to Fadge. How much better do you want it. The strike rate has got to be one of the best.


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Better than our 10-9

 

[Tristan34]

Why is it only a problem when it happens to Geelong? If your ex players bred more you wouldn’t be complaining

It's got nothing to do with breeding, they just don't stay long enough to be eligible for F/S...

 

[Tristan34]

Flags trumps everything. To me all that stat shows is that they are biggest chokers in the history of the game right next to you guys.


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Geelong did choke a bit in the 90s.. No one heard a whisper from Richmond for 30 years... Did they even play finals once in the 90s, 2000s????

 

[Oldmangrumpy]

4 of their 10 flags in the past 15 yrs out of over 150 yrs trying.
It’s an anomaly that will stop.
Much like any spike all clubs have.

 

[Falcon3518]

Geelong did choke a bit in the 90s.. No one heard a whisper from Richmond for 30 years... Did they even play finals once in the 90s, 2000s????

We made 2 prelims in 95 and 01 I think


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[Hoops]

There were 20 B2B premierships in the first 63 years of the VFL/AFL competition. There has been only 10 in the last 63 years.
Due to equalisation and the number teams it is getting harder. Although 6 of that 10 have happened in the last 25 years when we have had at least 16 teams. Are we now less equal?

 

[Tigerandy63]

Great record over a decent period of time.

Still, they will always be known as the hand baggers (for those old who are old enough to remember).

 

[Dogflogger]

Hawthorn and St Kilda had multiple top priority picks, Brisbane got Chris Johnson and Jarrod Molloy (who they traded for Mal Michael) from Fitzroy, GWS and GC had a seeming infinity of top picks.

None of those clubs turned it into a 15 year era of success

What defines Geelong for mine is their incredible ability to create stars out of mature age recruits or no names

Taylor, Podsiadly, Blicavs, Stewart, Kelly (whose trade booty they forwarded for Cameron), Stengle. It's happened time and time again.

Does any other club come close to Geelong in this area?

No doubt without priority picks clubs like St Kilda and Melbourne would have had next to no success in the mordern game but i see that as just another example of how unbalanced the league is. The only reason i bring up father son and academy players is because even if they are only a serviceable player they still make list management easier knowing who is coming years in advance. You also get the train them before debut and also gives you a player that often has the loyalty to stay and play for less than their market value. I dont think these points are inconsequential.

 

[Selfield]

4 of their 10 flags in the past 15 yrs out of over 150 yrs trying.
It’s an anomaly that will stop.
Much like any spike all clubs have.

Yeah nah. 17 flags in our history won at the highest level. 7 of those were before the Collingwood Football Club even existed.

 

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[Rich01]

Hawthorn and St Kilda had multiple top priority picks, Brisbane got Chris Johnson and Jarrod Molloy (who they traded for Mal Michael) from Fitzroy, GWS and GC had a seeming infinity of top picks.

None of those clubs turned it into a 15 year era of success

What defines Geelong for mine is their incredible ability to create stars out of mature age recruits or no names

Taylor, Podsiadly, Blicavs, Stewart, Kelly (whose trade booty they forwarded for Cameron), Stengle. It's happened time and time again.

Does any other club come close to Geelong in this area?

Yep, late picks but especially established, matured aged talent is Coach Scott’s forte.

He relies less on developing talent from traditional draft age talent than any other coach.

 

[Gavin Excell]

For those of us of a certain age where after losing 4 grand finals in 7 years 89-95, winning just 1 flag was starting to look a pipe dream.

Been a great run for supporters especially when you think there are some clubs out there who struggle just to make the 8

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Hawthorn and St Kilda had multiple top priority picks, Brisbane got Chris Johnson and Jarrod Molloy (who they traded for Mal Michael) from Fitzroy, GWS and GC had a seeming infinity of top picks.

None of those clubs turned it into a 15 year era of success

What defines Geelong for mine is their incredible ability to create stars out of mature age recruits or no names

Taylor, Podsiadly, Blicavs, Stewart, Kelly (whose trade booty they forwarded for Cameron), Stengle. It's happened time and time again.

Does any other club come close to Geelong in this area?

The influence of Hawthorn's priority picks is overstated.

Not only has a large number of clubs had more priority picks than us, but for the entire history of the rule, it netted us Beau Dowler and Lance Franklin.

Dowler obviously did nothing and whilst Franklin was/is a superstar, he played in only 1 of our threepeat of flags, in a peripheral role and was our opposition's best player in our next flag victory.

For Geelong the influence of father sons has been far more significant. In fact, they've not won a flag without one (or multiple) of their father sons being in their best 3 players.

07 - Ablett Jnr their best player (MVP, AFLCA, B&F, AA, etc), Scarlett arguably most important and AA
09 - basically ditto, Ablett Jnr best (MVP, AFLCA, BL, B&F, AA), Scarlett arguably most important and AA
11- Hawkins played pivotol role in GF (top 3 norm Smith), Scarlett arguably most important and AA
22 - Hawkins probably most important player and AA captain.

Not that I think this matters whatsoever - they've been fortunate to have generational players available this way through the rules of the time. They've done nothing wrong/not broken any rules and have made the absolute most of the opportunity - which they tend to do generally as a well run club.

(Before some 'smarty pants' comes in and highlights that it was Xavier Ellis and Jarryd Roughead who were officially the priority picks, it is actually the second selection that is additional through the priority pick system. In other words, if priority picks did not exist, Hawthorn would have had pick 2 in '04 and 3 in '05 (where they selected Ellis and Roughead) but the priority system enabled them, to have 2 and 5 in '04 (adding Franklin) and 3 and 6 in '05 (adding Dowler)).

 

[Sky]

For those of us of a certain age where after losing 4 grand finals in 7 years 89-95, winning just 1 flag was starting to look a pipe dream.

Been a great run for supporters especially when you think there are some clubs out there who struggle just to make the 8

Assuming you weren’t around for 1963 whats it feel like losing 4 grand finals? At least you’ve seen the Cats in 10 grand finals.

I’m 4-2 for grand finals but I never felt sad about the 2 losses cause I’m still blessed

 

[Gavin Excell]

Assuming you weren’t around for 1963 whats it feel like losing 4 grand finals? At least you’ve seen the Cats in 10 grand finals.

I’m 4-2 for grand finals but I never felt sad about the 2 losses cause I’m still blessed

You start to believe you'll never see one, that your club is cursed, and in some sort of weird way you personally have some responsibility for it all.

 

[PCORF]

Well run football club who has belief in it's players to get the job done. Geelong were a certain top 4 lock in 2022 and will likely be again in 2023 despite Selwood retiring. But for sure they will find somebody to fill his missing place. Nope, they have not won the flag every year and have underachieved most years, but if you keep on trying and trying you will get that reward in the end. Geelong have made 13 preliminary finals since 2004 (winning 6 of them) and have had a winning record every season apart from 2006 (10-1-11) over that 19 year span.

As an Adelaide fan it was sure fun knocking them out in 2017 hehe. But that did not ruin their spirits, they kept trying and trying. Fell short in 2020 and then in 2022 their day arrived. But that 2007-2011 team was amazing, 2022 pretty good too.

 

[rapidfire7]

Lol. I hope you get the help you need.

We know Costa is your godfather and we know the power and influence he wields. We know Dank and Robinson were injecting your players from 2007-10.
Dank was treating your injured players in this period among other things. This is documented fact. His treatments amounted to injection regimes... You can say they were innocent legal injections all you want. But nobody employs someone like Dank for that when the club doctor can do it. We know what you did.

Geelong are the biggest cheats in AFL history.

Who hurt you?

 

[Sky]

Well run football club who has belief in it's players to get the job done. Geelong were a certain top 4 lock in 2022 and will likely be again in 2023 despite Selwood retiring. But for sure they will find somebody to fill his missing place. Nope, they have not won the flag every year and have underachieved most years, but if you keep on trying and trying you will get that reward in the end. Geelong have made 13 preliminary finals since 2004 (winning 6 of them) and have had a winning record every season apart from 2006 (10-1-11) over that 19 year span.

As an Adelaide fan it was sure fun knocking them out in 2017 hehe. But that did not ruin their spirits, they kept trying and trying. Fell short in 2020 and then in 2022 their day arrived. But that 2007-2011 team was amazing, 2022 pretty good too.

I was at that Crows prelim, what a shit night

 

[PrinceCharles]

Pretty sure 80s hawks and 50s Dees had a better run. We also got 5 flags in a shorter time. 67-80. Fair few others I am missing. Yet again the Geelong footy club has been found wanting.


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Cats fans are happy, that's all that matters in the entertainment game.

 

[Rich01]

Cats fans are happy, that's all that matters in the entertainment game.

Don’t often agree with you but well said.

 

[STPer18]

Incredible club. Four flags in that timeframe despite equalisation designed to stop us - you're not supposed to be this good.