Geelong Dynasty - Dynasty? What Dynasty?

[lions_den]

Since when has winning sporadic premierships been known as a dynasty? All I seem to hear from footy "experts" when in reference to Geelong is about their supposed "dynasty".

It is in my expert opinion, that a dynasty requires a side to AT LEAST go back-to-back, not winning one premiership here, and one premiership there over a few seasons.

An example of a real dynasty would obviously be Brisbane 01-03. If we're talking about pure dynasties, even the worst two premiership sides of VFL/AFL history in Adelaide 97 and 98 will be remembered as a greater team than the current Geelong team in 20+ years from now. Why? Because they went back-to-back. No one will care about disjointed multiple premierships when we're all dead.

So unless Geelong win this year's grand final, they won't have a dynasty, and will be completely forgotten about in 20+ years time.

Mark my words, if Geelong don't win this year's grand final, Adelaide 97-98 will be remembered as a better side than Geelong 07-10, simply because they had a dynasty, a real dynasty.

 

[maryjames]

Big IF I see IF Geelong don't win this year... What 'IF' we did....?

Like Cat fans really care.. Been a good ride and happy with what Cats have done so far the last 4 years.

 

[lions_den]

Then it WOULD BE a dynasty MJ. As Lethal once said, "They'll discover that dynasties happen in retrospect not in advance".

 

[TOOs_Finest]

So unless Geelong win this year's grand final, they won't have a dynasty, and will be completely forgotten about in 2+ years time.

EFA

 

[Junk Time]

Don't worry, nobody will get close to us this year. Dynasty it is for Geelong then!

 

[roosforever]

Quick someone get this guy a brain, I cant take reading any more dribble. I am no cats fan but please.
Here is a box now go hide in it.

 

[lions_den]

Quick someone get this guy a brain, I cant take reading any more dribble. I am no cats fan but please.
Here is a box now go hide in it.

Take your smut elsewhere, this is a serious thread.

 

[Heafy83]

Quick someone get this guy a brain, I cant take reading any more dribble. I am no cats fan but please.
Here is a box now go hide in it.

LOL RFLMAO Classic!!!! I am a crows fan and would hardly say what we did was a dynasty we were just very good come september. To say we will be remembered more for what we did then than what Geelong are doing now is a joke. Geelong are in a Dynasty now plain and simple. They finish in the top 2 after the minor round and have participated in the last 3 GF and won 2. And the one they lost they got pipped by a lucky Hawks team .
No team will come close to them this year either. Not sure what Geelong did to piss you off but i think you have to face some cold hard facts!

 

[TOOs_Finest]

LOL RFLMAO Classic!!!! I am a crows fan and would hardly say what we did was a dynasty we were just very good come september. To say we will be remembered more for what we did then than what Geelong are doing now is a joke. Geelong are in a Dynasty now plain and simple. They finish in the top 2 after the minor round and have participated in the last 3 GF and won 2. And the one they lost they got pipped by a lucky Hawks team .
No team will come close to them this year either. Not sure what Geelong did to piss you off but i think you have to face some cold hard facts!

Interesting... I have no idea who finished top 2 in 97 and 98, but I remember who won the flag.

 

[lions_den]

Interesting... I have no idea who finished top 2 in 97 and 98, but I remember who won the flag.

Hammer.nail.head.

 

[Russcats]

Since when has winning sporadic premierships been known as a dynasty? All I seem to hear from footy "experts" when in reference to Geelong is about their supposed "dynasty".

It is in my expert opinion, that a dynasty requires a side to AT LEAST go back-to-back, not winning one premiership here, and one premiership there over a few seasons.

An example of a real dynasty would obviously be Brisbane 01-03. If we're talking about pure dynasties, even the worst two premiership sides of VFL/AFL history in Adelaide 97 and 98 will be remembered as a greater team than the current Geelong team in 20+ years from now. Why? Because they went back-to-back. No one will care about disjointed multiple premierships when we're all dead.

So unless Geelong win this year's grand final, they won't have a dynasty, and will be completely forgotten about in 20+ years time.

Mark my words, if Geelong don't win this year's grand final, Adelaide 97-98 will be remembered as a better side than Geelong 07-10, simply because they had a dynasty, a real dynasty.

Your meaning of a dynasty will be addressed by the end of 2010.

As for Brisbane's dynasty of 2001-2003, does it count as a dynasty when a club buys out one of the foundation clubs, keeps part of the list, then trades whatever's left that's tradeable for draft picks and top up players to become a superteam when no other club was allowed to do so (such as Norf) because the AFL would only sanction the 'on the nose bears' to be the best thing for the poor old lions. I still feel for Lions supporters who lost their team so that the Bears could be propped up and win a flag or two or three for the good of the competition.

Much like the concessions that GC and GWS have been given to help them be good for the competition. Melbourne clubs have watched it time after time and are called whingers if they don't like the AFL making rules to suit the new clubs. Let them all including Brisbane earn their flags like we all should. A true Dynasty is based on a club which earns their flags and are not handed them.

 

[Rioli magic]

IF they win this year, they shall take there place along side the likes of Carlton of the late 70's.

Pfft who remembers them?

 

[lions_den]

Your meaning of a dynasty will be addressed by the end of 2010.

As for Brisbane's dynasty of 2001-2003, does it count as a dynasty when a club buys out one of the foundation clubs, keeps part of the list, then trades whatever's left that's tradeable for draft picks and top up players to become a superteam when no other club was allowed to do so (such as Norf) because the AFL would only sanction the 'on the nose bears' to be the best thing for the poor old lions. I still feel for Lions supporters who lost their team so that the Bears could be propped up and win a flag or two or three for the good of the competition.

Much like the concessions that GC and GWS have been given to help them be good for the competition. Melbourne clubs have watched it time after time and are called whingers if they don't like the AFL making rules to suit the new clubs. Let them all including Brisbane earn their flags like we all should. A true Dynasty is based on a club which earns their flags and are not handed them.

Didn't read, got the jist from the first line or so. In the history books there'll be no asterisks, just 2001 - Brisbane 2002 - Brisbane 2003 - Brisbane. Just like in the history books it won't say 2008 - Hawthorn (Bradburied premiership, Geelong were the better team).

Win the 2010 premiership and you shall have your dynasty.

 

[Catsace]

Interesting... I have no idea who finished top 2 in 97 and 98, but I remember who won the flag.

Looks like then the last season Richmond were relevant to you was 1980 then, do you at least remember Helen D'amico?

I'd be happy to say that Geelong is in an 'era' but certainly as the Crows man said before, the sheer winning-ness of Geelong's team and general excellence bar the 2008 Grand Final will be remembered for a long time, and the Cats fans for ever!

Besides i think everyone will always remember who lost the 2008 Grand Final...

 

[Heafy83]

Interesting... I have no idea who finished top 2 in 97 and 98, but I remember who won the flag.

You have a good point there buddy but i think a dynasty is all about dominance from an overall perspective. BTW saints finished top in 1997 and North did in 1998

 

[roosforever]

Looks like then the last season Richmond were relevant to you was 1980 then, do you at least remember Helen D'amico?

I'd be happy to say that Geelong is in an 'era' but certainly as the Crows man said before, the sheer winning-ness of Geelong's team and general excellence bar the 2008 Grand Final will be remembered for a long time, and the Cats fans for ever!

Besides i think everyone will always remember who lost the 2008 Grand Final...

Just like the 1989 Grand Final

 

[Heafy83]

Just like the 1989 Grand Final

WOW how cocky are the hawks fans lately after winning 6 in a row against also-ran teams. Glad they will come crashing down to earth in the next few weeks

 

[TOOs_Finest]

Besides i think everyone will always remember who lost the 2008 Grand Final...

Cam Mooney

 

[db swannie]

Then it WOULD BE a dynasty MJ. As Lethal once said, "They'll discover that dynasties happen in retrospect not in advance".

TBH I haven't seen too many Geelong fans calling their run over the last 3 years a "dynasty" (except perhaps the odd Geelong flog, but every team has them)...They have been playing outstanding footy for a very long period of time, and what's more, a really great style of footy. Whether or not they're judged a "dynasty" will come later. As MJ said, most Geelong fans are just happy to be enjoying the ride, and I know if I was a Geelong fan I'd be having the ******* time of my life.

 

[The Panther]

There have only been 2 bonafide dynasties in the history of the VFL/AFL.

 

[BBQShapes]

There is no Geelong dynasty.

Brisbanes dynasty is a salary cap cheating dynasty - that is all.

The only true dynasty that has happened in footy is Collingwood from 1927 - 1930 + 1935-1936.

All these flogs wouldn't have a clue about a dynasty, get some perspective.

 

[TOOs_Finest]

There have only been 2 bonafide dynasties in the history of the VFL/AFL.

I think the OP already highlighted those.

There is no Geelong dynasty.

Brisbanes dynasty is a salary cap cheating dynasty - that is all.

The only true dynasty that has happened in footy is Collingwood from 1927 - 1930 + 1935-1936.

All these flogs wouldn't have a clue about a dynasty, get some perspective.

So you witnessed said dynasty I assume?

 

[witsend]

Since when has winning sporadic premierships been known as a dynasty? All I seem to hear from footy "experts" when in reference to Geelong is about their supposed "dynasty".

It is in my expert opinion, that a dynasty requires a side to AT LEAST go back-to-back, not winning one premiership here, and one premiership there over a few seasons.

An example of a real dynasty would obviously be Brisbane 01-03. If we're talking about pure dynasties, even the worst two premiership sides of VFL/AFL history in Adelaide 97 and 98 will be remembered as a greater team than the current Geelong team in 20+ years from now. Why? Because they went back-to-back. No one will care about disjointed multiple premierships when we're all dead.

So unless Geelong win this year's grand final, they won't have a dynasty, and will be completely forgotten about in 20+ years time.

Mark my words, if Geelong don't win this year's grand final, Adelaide 97-98 will be remembered as a better side than Geelong 07-10, simply because they had a dynasty, a real dynasty.

At least it would be a dynasty based on building a team without tanking for draft picks, merging 2 clubs, zoning or extra salary cap money. Wouldn't that be special?

 

[lionaround]

There have only been 2 bonafide dynasties in the history of the VFL/AFL.

There is no Geelong dynasty.

Brisbanes dynasty is a salary cap cheating dynasty - that is all.

The only true dynasty that has happened in footy is Collingwood from 1927 - 1930 + 1935-1936.

All these flogs wouldn't have a clue about a dynasty, get some perspective.

Guys, its time to move on from the loss of 02 and 03 GFs ok?

Here, have some grapes.

 

[The Panther]

Guys, its time to move on from the loss of 02 and 03 GFs ok?

What does Brisbane's 02/03 GF's have to do with Hawthorn in the 80's & Melbourne in the 50's. Confused.