Geelong rorting the system

[Strange Cat]

I gotta say I don’t really understand why - in the example 40k at home v 80k away. The 40k would predominantly be Geelong members who have already paid for their seat. 80k away you’re getting all the away and neutral supporters. Wouldn’t they be making more money on tickets?

Geelong has all the catering business at the ground which makes them money as well and less split with opposition team …it’s been well documented that the profit for each home game is over $1 million why would the club want less home games ?

The MCG has a split revenue with lower gate revenue for opposition clubs and no shared profits for the catering and the likes at the ground

This idiotic take needs to be nipped in the bud

 

[HairyO]

Isaac Smith admitted that he got a cheap house and land deal when he went to the cats.
Backtracked a day later (I'm sure there is someone who has the video of him admitting it). It's where this "conspiracy theory" started

Years and years ago Ling was commenting on a game and was teased by the other former players about his $1 pub.

Its not new. The AFL doesnt care as long as the media doeant care. And the media are controlled by getting extra Grand Final tickets for behaving.

All that happens is that more clubs do it, making a farce out of the cap.

So this really isnt about Scott. Its about how now all clubs will do it more brazenly.

 

[HairyO]

Geelong has all the catering business at the ground which makes them money as well and less split with opposition team …it’s been well documented that the profit for each home game is over $1 million why would the club want less home games ?

This idiot take needs to be nipped in the bud

People are on average spending $50 each on food and drink? Assuming mark up is double.

Geelong the fat alcoholic capital of Australia ?

 

[Not a mere cat]

Geelong has all the catering business at the ground which makes them money as well and less split with opposition team …it’s been well documented that the profit for each home game is over $1 million why would the club want less home games ?

The MCH has a split revenue with no shared profits for the catering and the likes at the ground

This idiot take needs to be nipped in the bud

Thanks. Makes sense now

 

[Sttew]

People are on average spending $50 each on food and drink? Assuming mark up is double.

Geelong the fat alcoholic capital of Australia ?

Fat Cats

 

[HairyO]

Fat Cats

Given 15,000 of them are the grannies with their knitting, its more like 25,000 people spening $80 each on average. Cos we know the grannies are eating hone made cheese and cucumber sandwiches and drinking tea from the thermos.

 

[Strange Cat]

Thanks. Makes sense now

Plus alcoholic drinks which would have a fair mark up as well

 

[Strange Cat]

People are on average spending $50 each on food and drink? Assuming mark up is double.

Geelong the fat alcoholic capital of Australia ?

Was there really a need for that ?

 

[Sttew]

Plus alcoholic drinks which would have a fair mark up as well

Plus merchandise at the shop. It’s like a Boxing Day sale on game day

 

[Cleric]

Tbf if Sydney didn’t abuse the COLA allowances to give Buddy a massive contract rather than spreading the allowance like it it meant to be used there wouldn’t had been a problem.

They made their own bed doing that

Even COLA was mismanaged by the AFL. Instead of giving the Swans an extra 10% cap space, they should have just paid each player 10% on top.of their contract wage.

 

[PhatBoy]

Years and years ago Ling was commenting on a game and was teased by the other former players about his $1 pub.

Its not new. The AFL doesnt care as long as the media doeant care. And the media are controlled by getting extra Grand Final tickets for behaving.

All that happens is that more clubs do it, making a farce out of the cap.

So this really isnt about Scott. Its about how now all clubs will do it more brazenly.

While I don’t doubt that ‘deals’ etc go on, do people actually take these “admissions” seriously? Like when Bryan Fletcher - the ex-Roosters player - talks about how Uncle Nick Politis used to pay him with cash in a brown paper bag do people think that’s a real admission that he was paid with cash in a brown paper bag or do you think it’s a humorous acknowledgement of the stigma that Roosters players are allegedly paid with cash in brown paper bags?

 

[HairyO]

Was there really a need for that ?

More just calling out the claim.

Home team clubs get a cut of signage, gate takings and food at the G as well, dont they? Obviously a smaller amount because the MCG gets its cut but its not like its 100% vs 0%.

Gate takings would be huge at the MCG too, given 1/3 to 1/2 of those at the game are opposition, vs maybe 5,000 at Geelong.

As many are saying, the finance guys at Geelong may get told to pretend its a bad deal but secretly they want the huge MCG games.

 

[Cleric]

Geelong has all the catering business at the ground which makes them money as well and less split with opposition team …it’s been well documented that the profit for each home game is over $1 million why would the club want less home games ?

The MCG has a split revenue with lower gate revenue for opposition clubs and no shared profits for the catering and the likes at the ground

This idiot take needs to be nipped in the bud

There is a lot of jealousy from the smaller Vic clubs towards Geelong. They all gave away their home grounds and went to Docklands or the MCG, and signed shitty contracts. Meanwhile Geelong invested in their once shitty stadium, and turned it into a great boutique ground, which they make alot of money from, and have a very strong home ground advantage with.

 

[HairyO]

While I don’t doubt that ‘deals’ etc go on, do people actually take these “admissions” seriously? Like when Bryan Fletcher - the ex-Roosters player - talks about how Uncle Nick Politis used to pay him with cash in a brown paper bag do people think that’s a real admission that he was paid with cash in a brown paper bag or do you think it’s a humorous acknowledgement of the stigma that Roosters players are allegedly paid with cash in brown paper bags?

Carlton in the 90s were done in by someone admitting to getting extra pay, which led to the investigation which found rampant rorting.

Good at football often means dumb at thinking.

 

[blueboy25]

There is a lot of jealousy from the smaller Vic clubs towards Geelong. They all gave away their home grounds and went to Docklands or the MCG, and signed shitty contracts. Meanwhile Geelong invested in their once shitty stadium, and turned it into a great boutique ground, which they make alot of money from, and have a very strong home ground advantage with.

The football club did or the state government did?

 

[Strange Cat]

More just calling out the claim.

Home team clubs get a cut of signage, gate takings and food at the G as well, dont they? Obviously a smaller amount because the MCG gets its cut but its not like its 100% vs 0%.

Gate takings would be huge at the MCG too, given 1/3 to 1/2 of those at the game are opposition, vs maybe 5,000 at Geelong.

As many are saying, the finance guys at Geelong may get told to pretend its a bad deal but secretly they want the huge MCG games.

Obviously you have it wrong as it is well documented the profit for the club with playing at the MCG is well below that of a home game at KP

This isn’t me making shit up it’s been well documented in the media and with the clubs own AGM

 

[Purple Suit]

Geelong absolutely wants 11 games at Kardinia, and the financial windfall to the club from 40k at home is better than 80k at the G due to the ground ownership.

 

[Strange Cat]

Even COLA was mismanaged by the AFL. Instead of giving the Swans an extra 10% cap space, they should have just paid each player 10% on top.of their contract wage.

I personally think it should had been given to those on a rookie or lower wage , Syd on paper did the smart thing in abusing the system they just got caught out because the AFL wanted Buddy to go to GWS.

 

[Strange Cat]

Full control at the stadium where all profits from merchandise, catering and alcohol with more control over tickets splitting revenue vs locked in contract with the MCG with lower leavage for gate splitting and less revenue splitting from all other services

yep all made up can’t possibly see how Geelong gets ahead financially at their home ground with more control and leavage, despite being well documented that the club profits over $1 million per home game and that was before a fully updated stadium so it would be well more now than back then when it wasn’t completed

It’s all in the clubs AGM it isn’t a big secret

 

[Sttew]

Here was a quote from 2009 by former Cats CEO, Brian Cook,(when GMHBA was known as Skilled Stadium):

...at Skilled Stadium when you have a capacity of 25,000, we make a net profit in that game of $638,000 per game, which is $26 per head. If we have a crowd of 85,500 at the MCG, which we did have against Collingwood in 2007, we brought home $771,000, which was $9 a head. Importantly,Telstra, now Etihad Stadium, with a near capacity of 46,000, we brought home $293,000, which is $6 a head. So when you compare a crowd at Skilled of 25,000 compared to Telstra, which is nearly twice as much at 46, you at Skilled bring home to the club $638,000 out of all revenue sources per game and only $293,000 from Telstra.

 

[Dazb86]

They're getting more ballsy with the announcements now.

 

[Purple Suit]

How many times does this have to be answered before people hear it?

Big Footy is an eco chamber. I’m sure everyone believes it on the Geelong board but it makes zero sense. Geelong would be the richest club in the land if they make nearly double that of an 80k stadium for home games.

Collingwood don’t even average 80k yet Geelong are raking in the cash like they have 130k attending each week.

Yeah, sounds legit.

 

[iameviljez]

It's absolutely true. To quote Brian Cook in a submission to Parliament:

...at Skilled Stadium when you have a capacity of 25,000, we make a net profit in that game of $638,000 per game, which is $26 per head. If we have a crowd of 85,500 at the MCG, which we did have against Collingwood in 2007, we brought home $771,000, which was $9 a head. Importantly, Telstra, now Etihad Stadium, with a near capacity of 46,000, we brought home $293,000, which is $6 a head.
Source: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentar...ted_inquiries/2008-10/afl_tasmania/report/c02

 

[Purple Suit]

It's absolutely true. To quote Brian Cook in a submission to Parliament:

...at Skilled Stadium when you have a capacity of 25,000, we make a net profit in that game of $638,000 per game, which is $26 per head. If we have a crowd of 85,500 at the MCG, which we did have against Collingwood in 2007, we brought home $771,000, which was $9 a head. Importantly, Telstra, now Etihad Stadium, with a near capacity of 46,000, we brought home $293,000, which is $6 a head.
Source: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentar...ted_inquiries/2008-10/afl_tasmania/report/c02

So more money from the G back then, per head means stuff all.

So what did the upgrades cost to go from 25k to 40k and surely the government are now recouping that via the stadium deal. It’s not the same as 15 years ago.

 

[Strange Cat]

Big Footy is an eco chamber. I’m sure everyone believes it on the Geelong board but it makes zero sense. Geelong would be the richest club in the land if they make nearly double that of an 80k stadium for home games.

Collingwood don’t even average 80k yet Geelong are raking in the cash like they have 130k attending each week.

Yeah, sounds legit.

Yeah the club just cooks it’s book and lies to it’s shareholders and breaks the law for shits and giggles

Do you even listen to yourself ?

Presented with evidence and still act ignorant